Heupel is 34-13 with 72.34% Winning Percentage

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madbamahater said:
Thanks coach! Winning surely beats the hell out of losing. Unfortunately, we have a lot of fans that would rather lose if it looks pretty, than win even if it's not pretty. Unfortunately, we have a lot of stupid ass fans.

I will never forget suffering as a fan for 15 plus years. Literally suffering from crap football year in and year out.

Thank you for being at UT and thank you for making UT relavant again. Thank you for making UT cool again. Thank you for making UT win again. Thank you for making UT competitive again.

Before I hear all the sunshine pumper stuff, yall know I'm not a sunshine pumper. When I turn on a coach, I turn. I call it like I see it. Until proven otherwise, Heup is a top-notch coach.
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27-7 after 1st season (79.4%)
Bama: 2-2
Florida: 2-2
Georgia: 0-3
 
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madbamahater said:
Then you don't go to games and don't hear fans bitch about how Heupel needs to go and that he's the problem. We have a either very greedy and selfish fan base, or many are just very dumb people. I heard tons of this talk at the Florida game and the UK game.

My point is that the fans I've heard bitching about this stuff are more concerned with how UT looks and performs than winning and yes we have TONS of fans that are moral victory type loser personalities. Meaning that even if UT loses, they still did xyz right and they looked great doing it.

So, we have fans that would FEEL better about themselves if the Vols pile up huge offensive numbers and say oh lose 52-51 type game as long as the offense is clicking than they would if the Vols pull out an ugly gritty win 28-18 over UK. Then, they'd get to focus their bitching efforts about firing the DC and defensive staff. This is true, we have many of these fans. Are you new to VolNation?
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Nobody feels better about losing high scoring games than they do about winning offensive struggles. Generally it’s low IQ, highly emotional people who claim what you’re claiming. I imagine you said the same stuff through the Dooley, Butch, and Pruitt eras.

The goal for this team is championships. We are not playing championship-caliber football. We are way better than we once were, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t plenty of valid complaints and things that have to be fixed if we are going to play for championships.
 
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madbamahater said:
Thanks coach! Winning surely beats the hell out of losing. Unfortunately, we have a lot of fans that would rather lose if it looks pretty, than win even if it's not pretty. Unfortunately, we have a lot of stupid ass fans.

I will never forget suffering as a fan for 15 plus years. Literally suffering from crap football year in and year out.

Thank you for being at UT and thank you for making UT relavant again. Thank you for making UT cool again. Thank you for making UT win again. Thank you for making UT competitive again.

Before I hear all the sunshine pumper stuff, yall know I'm not a sunshine pumper. When I turn on a coach, I turn. I call it like I see it. Until proven otherwise, Heup is a top-notch coach.
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We are relevant again and it's very nice. A bit more to go, but we can get there. Regardless, Heupel is head and shoulders over anything we have had since Fulmer, and is better than Fulmer was after 2004. Just a bit more and he can be as good as Fulmer ever was.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Literally no one has said this, nor do I believe any Vol fan believes this. This is a stupid post.
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Disagree, we DO have fans who just seems to not appreciate good things about our team. Fans who seem to literally hunt for something criticize players AND coaches. That's why the term negaVols exists in the VN lexion, and why my term canniVols may become part of that lexion. I don't deny other fan bases has such fans, it's just so disheartening to me, seeing it here.

Me? Whether we win with the grace of a ballerina, or as ugly as pugilist Thrilla in Manila style, I'm glad we are winning, and if we were not, the Vols will always be my Vols, win, lose, or draw.
 
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madbamahater said:
Then you don't go to games and don't hear fans bitch about how Heupel needs to go and that he's the problem. We have a either very greedy and selfish fan base, or many are just very dumb people. I heard tons of this talk at the Florida game and the UK game.

My point is that the fans I've heard bitching about this stuff are more concerned with how UT looks and performs than winning and yes we have TONS of fans that are moral victory type loser personalities. Meaning that even if UT loses, they still did xyz right and they looked great doing it.

So, we have fans that would FEEL better about themselves if the Vols pile up huge offensive numbers and say oh lose 52-51 type game as long as the offense is clicking than they would if the Vols pull out an ugly gritty win 28-18 over UK. Then, they'd get to focus their bitching efforts about firing the DC and defensive staff. This is true, we have many of these fans. Are you new to VolNation?
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To be completely fair, and I can't speak for everyone obviously, I haven't heard one person say anything remotely close to Heupel "needing to go."
He's done a really awesome job here for all of the reasons you mentioned.
The only thing I wish we'd do is avoid the one inexplicable loss we suffer each year that puts our back against the wall or knocks us out of contention. Carolina in 22, Florida last year, Arkansas this year. Shouldn't have lost any of those games like that, but we've got a chance to make a run each year, and that's a damn sight better than what we've had in my adult life.
 
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purp said:
Following the game day threads I tend to believe there are some fans dumb enough to have this mindset.
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Bingo. I hadn't followed a game day thread in a quite a while but did during the UK game. I'll be going back to not following. It's like 95% have never played a sport before.
 
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uncle chewii said:
A win is a win but the o it problem I have had the last two years is there has been no improvement of discipline on the field. Still making stupid mistakes and same mistakes by both an older QB last year as we are having with a freshman QB this year. Those two things do come down to coaching. I agree coach is a winner but he needs to get the assistants to clean up the small things. The only coach I am not sold on is Hazle as he has yet to show a complete offensive game plan against a good team or QB growth. We went from scoring 40+ with Golesh to barely scoring 20.
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Except that in 21 games as USF's coach, Golesh is averaging 30.2 ppg, and in 21 games without Golesh, Heupel/UT is averaging 34.2 ppg. Heupel probably knows what he is doing.
 
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He is .500+ in SEC play in all 4 seasons, which hasn't been done in even 3 consecutive seasons since Fulmers streak ended in 05.
 
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To put this in perspective, his WP is slightly better than Fulmers overall record.

Fulmer went 11-1 in fourth season - though keep in mind he inherited a team he was already largely responsible for. Although Fulmer was slightly better in his first 47 games, consider what Heupel had when he took over and I think it’s safe to say he’s doing one hellava job so far.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
Last two games are blowouts if the players execute 50% of the near miss plays. Sure is nice to be talking about “Well we should’ve blown them out,” instead of “we should’ve won” most of the time.
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This 100%!!!! Up till Heupel, having a full half of football with poor execution was an automatic blowout defeat for the last 22 years. Yes, even in the 2002-2008 span with Fulmer, we got boat raced a couple of times a year for not executing for a half. Need the scores listed against our biggest rivals?
 
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UT97Vol said:
To put this in perspective, his WP is slightly better than Fulmers overall record.

Fulmer went 11-1 in fourth season - though keep in mind he inherited a team he was already largely responsible for. Although Fulmer was slightly better in his first 47 games, consider what Heupel had when he took over and I think it’s safe to say he’s doing one hellava job so far.
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Fulmer got absolutely blown out several times to our biggest rivals during the 2002 to 2008 time frame of his career. Heck, even in an 11-1, no. 3 final poll after 1995, our lone loss was 62-37 by Florida
 
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JohnnyJava said:
Except that in 21 games as USF's coach, Golesh is averaging 30.2 ppg, and in 21 games without Golesh, Heupel/UT is averaging 34.2 ppg. Heupel probably knows what he is doing.
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But what was UT averaging with Golesh at OC. Huepel may be calling the plays but the OC gets the game plans together and is responsible for the performance. You can see a noticeable different between play’s and performance between years 1/2 and 3/4 offensive wise and the OC is the only difference.
 
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uncle chewii said:
But what was UT averaging with Golesh at OC. Huepel may be calling the plays but the OC gets the game plans together and is responsible for the performance. You can see a noticeable different between play’s and performance between years 1/2 and 3/4 offensive wise and the OC is the only difference.
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Experienced talent isn't the same. That's why you can't really know what Golesh would do. Regardless, the offense is at the direction of our offensive minded HC

Heupel allows the OC to manage details and call some plays
 
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uncle chewii said:
But what was UT averaging with Golesh at OC. Huepel may be calling the plays but the OC gets the game plans together and is responsible for the performance. You can see a noticeable different between play’s and performance between years 1/2 and 3/4 offensive wise and the OC is the only difference.
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Well, you know, that and having Hendon Hooker vs redshirt freshman Nico and Joe Milton. You can just watch tape and see it, the plays to drop 50+ are there every single week. The difference is Hendon saw them and hit them and Milton and Nico haven't. That, and the case of the drops our WRs have developed.
 
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