Heupel offense in the NFL

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Golfprovol said:
Oddly enough, the OL for 2025 graded better than the OL for 2022.

Nico held the ball almost a second longer than Hendon did.
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I know what I saw & the line was poor vs 4 & 5 man boxes all season.

Nico didn’t have Hyatt, Tillman & healthy Bru either.

I watched the OSU game from the end zone view (all 22 players). There wasn’t anyone open to throw to.

Practically every passing QB had a disappointing season in the SEC this year. Defensive coordinators aren’t stupid.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Oddly enough, the OL for 2025 graded better than the OL for 2022.

Nico held the ball almost a second longer than Hendon did.
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WHY?

I’ve seen you continually come on here and defend our offense as not needing anything except better execution.

There is no consistency in execution when a defense knows what you’re doing and have similar athleticism.

Why is he holding it longer??

Watch the end zone view point on any of the commentary of the televised games and you’ll see why…

Nico is the ONLY reason OSU didn’t beat Tennessee 51-0. His legs kept the team alive for 2 qtrs.

All of you all need to watch the GAMES again.
This offense ABSOLUTELY NEEDS a tune up at the very least. We don’t need 50 million for NIL yada trash.

Our coaching is the difference between Playoff team and being in the final 4.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Oddly enough, the OL for 2025 graded better than the OL for 2022.

Nico held the ball almost a second longer than Hendon did.
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Not that I'm doubting you. But, man I'm doubting you.

Did he hold bc he didn't know where to go quickly or bc his line held up better. Our OL was pretty good I thought in 22. Now we're average SEC IMHO. Next year ... 😳🤷
 
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The offense doesn't need a tune up, we need to be able to run the offense. We need the WR to have options on routes and we didn't have that this year.

Defenses know what we are doing because we are not running the whole offense.

Our offense is based on tempo, not allowing the defense to make calls or get lined up. Give them time to do that and we will struggle. 2022 we were more deadly from the 40 that we were inside the red zone...why? We slowed down inside the red zone.

Nico holds it longer because it takes him longer to process the information he needs. The WR had to become simple. The WR and QB need to be on the same page for the offense to operate correctly.

The last 2 years, we didn't have the ability to read the defense correctly.
 
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Washington’s offense a few days ago looked nothing like our offense this year. Maybe that’s what it’s SUPPOSED to look like but we certainly didn’t show anything close.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Oddly enough, the OL for 2025 graded better than the OL for 2022.

Nico held the ball almost a second longer than Hendon did.
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Don’t care what the grades were. We struggled badly in a few games. Arkansas was complete garbage; don’t give a damn what any ranking says. He was hit with pressure early and often, pocket was trash.
 
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Golfprovol said:
So Kingsbury starts using UT's formations and concepts, but CJH needs to study Kingsbury to change his offense? How does that make sense.

We need a QB that can run the offense and the last 2 years we haven't had that.
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We need an offensive line more than anything.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Heupel should study every successful offensive coach and gleam what he can from them. All coaches should.
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Looks like that's EXACTLY what Kliff Kingsbury did -- he studied a successful offensive coach (Heupel), and utilized multiple Vol plays and Vol concepts highlighted in the linked article.
 
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livefaith said:
Not that I'm doubting you. But, man I'm doubting you.

Did he hold bc he didn't know where to go quickly or bc his line held up better. Our OL was pretty good I thought in 22. Now we're average SEC IMHO. Next year ... 😳🤷
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Or, did he not have a WR wide freaking open most plays?
 
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None of any of this matters. To win it all you must have the best O-line and best D-line. These games are all LOS games. Ohio State manhandled us on the LOS. It wasn’t our scheme.
 
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wmcovol said:
I know what I saw & the line was poor vs 4 & 5 man boxes all season.

Nico didn’t have Hyatt, Tillman & healthy Bru either.

I watched the OSU game from the end zone view (all 22 players). There wasn’t anyone open to throw to.

Practically every passing QB had a disappointing season in the SEC this year. Defensive coordinators aren’t stupid.
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A tough mean OLine would go along way in fixing that problem. GBO
 
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wmcovol said:
I know what I saw & the line was poor vs 4 & 5 man boxes all season.

Nico didn’t have Hyatt, Tillman & healthy Bru either.

I watched the OSU game from the end zone view (all 22 players). There wasn’t anyone open to throw to.

Practically every passing QB had a disappointing season in the SEC this year. Defensive coordinators aren’t stupid.
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We weren’t getting 4 and 5 man boxes. Did you mean to say 4 and 5 man rushes? Can you provide examples?

Also where are you getting the all 22, I would love to see that.
 
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wmcovol said:
No offense works when defenses can control your running game with 4 or 5 men in the box.
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We had one of the best running games that we've ever had at UT. The passing game and predictable play calling was the show stopper.
 
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dovervolz said:
We had one of the best running games that we've ever had at UT. The passing game and predictable play calling was the show stopper.
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“We” ran against light boxes (4 & 5 man) all year. I watched Ga & OSU control the games with their 4& 5 man fronts. The only consistent successful running in those games was Nico’s. They shut the passing game down dropping 6& 7 into coverage . But you do you.
 
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Vol8188 said:
We weren’t getting 4 and 5 man boxes. Did you mean to say 4 and 5 man rushes? Can you provide examples?

Also where are you getting the all 22, I would love to see that.
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The SEC broadcast of the OSU game showed the end zone angle where you could see the view the QB had. Plus they had Kessling & Ryan instead of Fowler & Herby. Double bonus
 
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wmcovol said:
“We” ran against light boxes (4 & 5 man) all year. I watched Ga & OSU control the games with their 4& 5 man fronts. The only consistent successful running in those games was Nico’s. They shut the passing game down dropping 6& 7 into coverage . But you do you.
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GA and OSU had the DL talent to just rush 4 or 5. "WE" didn't have the OL talent to match em. They able to dedicate 5 or 6 players to stopping the pass. "WE" had 104 yds passing vs OSU and 167 yds vs GA. Not exactly world beaters with "THEIR" passing. Add to it that the play calling was very predictable and "UT's" lack of blitzing on defense and it spells disaster. I'm gonna do me cause I sure as he// don't want to be you.
 
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dovervolz said:
GA and OSU had the DL talent to just rush 4 or 5. "WE" didn't have the OL talent to match em. They able to dedicate 5 or 6 players to stopping the pass. "WE" had 104 yds passing vs OSU and 167 yds vs GA. Not exactly world beaters with "THEIR" passing. Add to it that the play calling was very predictable and "UT's" lack of blitzing on defense and it spells disaster. I'm gonna do me cause I sure as he// don't want to be you.
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WAIT! Earlier you were bragging that “we” were a great running team. Now you’re trashing the OL & not blitzing (totally irrelevant since the earlier post was only about offense issues.)

You simply read the statistics but don’t have a clue why they occur. Nico had nobody to throw to vs OSU. I’m simply telling why the passing game doesn’t work right now. Tennessee needs to get the OL strong enough talent-wise to force top tier opponents to play 6 or 7 to stop the run, which was my initial point. Your solution was for better play calling. Please share with us, Mr Football, what plays work when you can’t block the opponent! I’m sure 100s of college & pro coaches would love to hear your answer.
 
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I think we need to get Heupel’s offense working in college before we even think about applying it in the NFL.
 
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