Hillary Clinton doing what the Clintons do best.

[gsvol]

Stabbing America's allies in the back.

The Voice of Reason: Obama Administration Stabs UK in the Back . . .Again

In what is quickly becoming a recurring theme for the Obama Administration's foreign policy team, America is once again injuring our allies in an effort to comfort our enemies . . . or at least to comfort Socialist Evita wannabes like the President of Argentina, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. Perhaps our Secretary of State sees something familiar; the Kirchners are Argentina’s Clintons, lefties who wished to pass power from husband to wife.

The background is simple. The British have solely possessed the Falkland Islands for more than 170 years. This has led the Argentinean government, when economic times are tough, to stir up nationalism by demanding the nearby islands from the Brits. This led to a war in the 1980, but the strong friendship of President Reagan and Prime Minister Thatcher led to a decisive military victory by the UK. This, in turn, had the salutary effect of collapsing the Argentinean military junta and returning Argentina to democracy.--------------------

Into this history steps Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. After months of shameful neutrality, Americans forcefully took a stand this week. . . .for Argentina.

The British have said they will negotiate with Argentina whenever the residents of the Falkland's wish to negotiate, until then there is nothing to negotiate.

Falkland Islands oil row: Hillary Clinton steps into Argentina stand-off | Mail Online

This week the White House has refused to endorse the UK's historic sovereignty over the islands and its right to explore for oil in its waters.

Fernandez de Kirchner is a close ally of Hugo Chavez who has said Argentina won't have to stand alone if it has to go to war with GB again.

GB gave GWB a bust of Winston Churchill which he displayed in the Oval office.

On his first day in office Obama returned the bust to GB.

GB has commissioned a bust of Neville Chamberlain to be presented to Hitlery and Barry later this year.

 

[MG1968]

what, no clever photoshopped pictures?

 

[Volst53]

I miss the pictures.

 

[CaVOLfn]

The title made me think she spilled something on a blue dress
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[fl0at]

The title made me think she spilled something on a blue dress
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Hah!

 

[gsvol]

The title made me think she spilled something on a blue dress
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It is truly a shame that slick willy's many acts of treason were all covered with the tabloid worthy blue dress story.

Ever notice how many times Hitlery will say; 'for the common good?'

Consider this:

Gemeinnutzgeht vor Eigennutz. (The common good supersedes the private good.) ~ Nazi slogan Prologue Fanatical environmentalism, vegetarianism, animal rights and public health are four progressive policy initiatives that most people would not readily associate with Hitler and the Nazis.

 

[milohimself]

So promotion of public works makes one a Nazi. Good to know.
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[therealUT]

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[emainvol]

So promotion of public works makes one a Nazi. Good to know.
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Can't wait for the "Nazis were fanatical leftists" argument
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[n_huffhines]

Can't wait for the "Nazis were fanatical leftists" argument
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Hitler was definitely against states rights.

 

[gsvol]

So promotion of public works makes one a Nazi. Good to know.
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How do you get 'public works' from;

Fanatical environmentalism, vegetarianism,
animal rights and public health are four
progressive policy initiatives that most
people would not readily associate with
Hitler and the Nazis.

 

[MG1968]

Godwin's Law after two posts, gsvol is slipping, but only because he didn't call her "Hitlery" in the OP.

 

[utvolpj]

Godwin's Law after two posts, gsvol is slipping, but only because he didn't call her "Hitlery" in the OP.

he did but it went the way of titles that include Hussein and Oblabla. We should at least pretend to be adults (that is until someone opens the thread)

 

[lawgator1]

Disappointed no Muslim stuff itt

 

[gsvol]

what, no clever photoshopped pictures?

Nice kitty.

Godwin's Law after two posts, gsvol is slipping, but only because he didn't call her "Hitlery" in the OP.

Edited out by monitor for political correctness.

Disappointed no Muslim stuff itt

Here in an issue in which you always seem
extremely interested.

The 'birther' issue was first broached by a Democrat;

The whole birther issue was started by Hitlery
operative Pilip J. Berg and it was started against
McLame, who then presented his bonafides.

It then moved on to Barack Hussein Obama aka
Barry Soetoro because of the claim that it would
be disastrous for the dhimmicrap party if he were
found to be ineligible at some point in the future.
Berg filed the first birther case in any court.

Others picked it up from there but it got nowhere
before the election and the day Obama took office
he issued an executive order that sealed ALL his
personal records.

Simple question: Where are all Barry Soetoro's
Missing and Hidden Documents:

Obama's Original long-form BC (In which hospital
was he born?)
This has NEVER been produced, one need not be
born in Hawaii to obtain a colb, and besides the
one produced by factcheck of the Annenburg
foundation, a previous employer and enabler of
Obama, was proven to be a forgery.

Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released

Soetoro adoption records -- Not released

Punahou School records -- Not released

Occidental College records -- Not released
(possibly flunked out)

Passport(s) (Pakistan) -- Not released

Columbia College records -- Not released
He may have never attended at all, or may have
spent one of those supposed two years in Pakistan.

Columbia thesis -- Not released

Harvard College records -- Not released
(unprecedented that he has no record of any
published articles.)

Baptism certificate -- None

Medical records -- Not released

Oh, and one more thing; why did he give up
that Illinois law license?

Actually Palin wanted to publicly ask some of the questions but the McLame campaign managers
wouldn't have it.

 

[gsvol]

Can't wait for the "Nazis were fanatical leftists" argument
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And what were they if not fanatical leftists??

They were certainly fanatical.

They were certainly leftists.

They were the antithesis of conservativism.

There wasn't that much differenced between
Hitler's and Stalin's socialism.

Both were interested in installing a centrally
controlled totalitarian form of statist socialism.
(both ultimately wanted to establish that on
a worldwide basis also, although both at times
at least, cloaked their rhetoric in extreme
nationalism.)

The two major differences were how to gain
that end.

Hitler used a term he got from Mousollini, fascism,
which means to bundle various groups together and
gain control by democratic means.

Stalin was in control because of a violent overthrow
of the previous order, Lenin having siezed power
from Kerenski who had overthrown the Tsarist
government.

Hitler was anti-communist only because the
communists were heavily influenced by the
Bolsheviks which had lots of Jewish members
and as you know Hitler hated Jews.

(Much like Louis Farrakhan who embraces
communism but still hates Jews.)

You can't say the nazis were anything but leftists.

You can't claim either that the nazis were
of the Christian right, the whole of the top
echelon of nazis were pagan sodomites.

So explain to me how the nazis were not
extreme leftists???

 

[n_huffhines]

And what were they if not fanatical leftists??

They were certainly fanatical.

They were certainly leftists.

They were the antithesis of conservativism.

Socially they were conservatives. They were just authoritarians, through and through.

 

[MG1968]

Socially they were conservatives. They were just authoritarians, through and through.

I don't know of any conservatives that condone book burning and ethnic pogroms.

 

[emainvol]

And what were they if not fanatical leftists??

They were certainly fanatical.

They were certainly leftists.

They were the antithesis of conservativism.

There wasn't that much differenced between
Hitler's and Stalin's socialism.

Both were interested in installing a centrally
controlled totalitarian form of statist socialism.
(both ultimately wanted to establish that on
a worldwide basis also, although both at times
at least, cloaked their rhetoric in extreme
nationalism.)

The two major differences were how to gain
that end.

Hitler used a term he got from Mousollini, fascism,
which means to bundle various groups together and
gain control by democratic means.

Stalin was in control because of a violent overthrow
of the previous order, Lenin having siezed power
from Kerenski who had overthrown the Tsarist
government.

Hitler was anti-communist only because the
communists were heavily influenced by the
Bolsheviks which had lots of Jewish members
and as you know Hitler hated Jews.

(Much like Louis Farrakhan who embraces
communism but still hates Jews.)

You can't say the nazis were anything but leftists.

You can't claim either that the nazis were
of the Christian right, the whole of the top
echelon of nazis were pagan sodomites.

So explain to me how the nazis were not
extreme leftists???

Hitler and the Nazis were big fans of jailing and attacking their fellow leftists then, as they consistently did throughout their entire reign. In fact, much of the early movement focused on rooting out the very socialism that you profess them to hold so dear.

It's interesting that you would choose to bring up fascism and Mussolini, as it is obvious to anyone that studies them that it was a a bastardized mixture of both far left and far right politics wing politics. Mussolini was a Communist, but then converted himself to this new form of totalitarian governance.

In both cases, and even with Franco and Spain, the governments were virulently anti-Marxist/Communist and anti-democratic after gaining power. Your assertion that Hitler was only anti-Communist because of the Jews is simply backwards. Comparing Jews and Communists helped to feed into the already present hate for communists and give Germans another reason to hate the Jews. If anything, the Nazis (outside of Hitler) didn't hate the communists because they were Jews, they hated the Jews because they were communists.


In Germany, much like in Italy, there existed a longing to return to the former glory of generations past, a certain idealism that is found in conservative politics even today, although on a much less extreme level. Both societies engaged in what amounted to screwjobs for nearly the entirety of the working class, hardly a left-wing ideal. Hitler was an atheist, but found usefulness in religion and even went as far as to align himself with a number of Catholic officials, again, hardly the actions of some left-wing radical.

Of course, there are two sides to this. Hitler and Mussolini both exhibited a desire to do away with class conflict, although the motives can certainly be debated. Chalk that up to the left-wing side.

I could go into a lot more here, but the bottom line is to attempt to simply classify them as some kind of far-left or far-right wing group is to completely ignore that they were totalitarian, which exists in the grey area that you find as the extreme left approaches the extreme right, and vice versa.

 

[emainvol]

Socially they were conservatives. They were just authoritarians, through and through.

Absolutely not, they were totalitarian.

 

[emainvol]

I don't know of any conservatives that condone book burning and ethnic pogroms.

It's intellectually irresponsible to try to classify these groups as either conservative or liberal. There was a helluva lot more to it than that.

 

[gsvol]

Disappointed no Muslim stuff itt

You claim to be an attorney. (which I doubt.)

Are you familiar with the term 'misprision of treason?'

This is the accusation against the Obama democrat
administration. (of which Hitlery plays a large role.)

Misprision of Treason: Top DOJ Officials Abandon CAIR Terror Finance Prosecutions

It is a felony offense to know or have reason to
know that seditious activity is underway and do
nothing about it. The term used in the U.S. Code
for such a crime is “misprision of treason.”

Counterterrorism expert Patrick Poole reveals today
that political appointees in the Obama-Holder Justice
Department would appear, at a minimum, to be
candidates for prosecution for obstruction of justice
and perhaps guilty of violating this statute.

In a Pajamas Media article headlined “Did Obama
and Holder Scuttle Terror Finance Prosecutions?”,
Poole reports that two Justice Department sources
confirm that the decision not to prosecute unindicted
co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation (HLF)
trial was taken “at the top” of the department, not
by the federal prosecutors in Dallas who had secured
convictions of five HLF officials and had planned next
to put away their helpmates.

As a result, one of the most prominent and
problematic of those listed by the prosecution
– the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas front known
as the Council on American Islamic Relations
(CAIR) – has not only been allowed to continue
to run its influence operations in Washington and
elsewhere across the country. It has been free
to enjoy what is, if anything, even greater access
to and influence over the Obama administration
than it enjoyed during previous presidencies.

Read more about what 19 national security officials
have written.

 

[Vol Mania 21]

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fyp

 

[gsvol]

Socially they were conservatives. They were just authoritarians, through and through.

Where do you get that???

It is an unequivocal truth that they weren't socially
conservative!!!

Hitler and the Nazis were big fans of jailing and attacking their fellow leftists then, as they consistently did throughout their entire reign. In fact, much of the early movement focused on rooting out the very socialism that you profess them to hold so dear.

It's interesting that you would choose to bring up fascism and Mussolini, as it is obvious to anyone that studies them that it was a a bastardized mixture of both far left and far right politics wing politics. Mussolini was a Communist, but then converted himself to this new form of totalitarian governance.

In both cases, and even with Franco and Spain, the governments were virulently anti-Marxist/Communist and anti-democratic after gaining power. Your assertion that Hitler was only anti-Communist because of the Jews is simply backwards. Comparing Jews and Communists helped to feed into the already present hate for communists and give Germans another reason to hate the Jews. If anything, the Nazis (outside of Hitler) didn't hate the communists because they were Jews, they hated the Jews because they were communists.


In Germany, much like in Italy, there existed a longing to return to the former glory of generations past, a certain idealism that is found in conservative politics even today, although on a much less extreme level. Both societies engaged in what amounted to screwjobs for nearly the entirety of the working class, hardly a left-wing ideal. Hitler was an atheist, but found usefulness in religion and even went as far as to align himself with a number of Catholic officials, again, hardly the actions of some left-wing radical.

Of course, there are two sides to this. Hitler and Mussolini both exhibited a desire to do away with class conflict, although the motives can certainly be debated. Chalk that up to the left-wing side.

I could go into a lot more here, but the bottom line is to attempt to simply classify them as some kind of far-left or far-right wing group is to completely ignore that they were totalitarian, which exists in the grey area that you find as the extreme left approaches the extreme right, and vice versa.

So they attacked their fellow leftists???

Then our only bone of contention was whether
they were fanatical or not??

The German people resented being rendered a slave
state as a settlement to WWI.

If you consider that socialism is a leftist ideal and
that conservatives strive to perpetuate free interprise
then both Hitler's nazis and Stalinists are both left
wing enterprises.

Absolutely not, they were totalitarian.

DUH!!!!!

They were fanatical leftists.

It's intellectually irresponsible to try to classify these groups as either conservative or liberal. There was a helluva lot more to it than that.

OK then, how do you classify the nazis??

 

[gsvol]

fyp

Is that you Vince??????

Another Obama/Clinton betrayal:



Island Turtle: Did Obama bribe Brazil with $2 billion to help put Honduras’s Zelaya back into power?

(short excerpt from a long article.)

This article at Coup Rocks Honduras - WSJ.com
indicates to me that the State Department took
Zelaya's side, when Thomas Shannon was still
heading up the Bureau of Western Hemisphere
Affairs at the State Department, because the
Honduran Congress refused to obey US orders
to disregard their own Constitution.

Shannon moved on to be Ambassador to Brazil. "The
Obama administration and members of the Organization
of American States had worked for weeks to try
to avert any moves to overthrow President Zelaya,
said senior U.S. officials.

"Washington's ambassador to Honduras, Hugo Llorens,
sought to facilitate a dialogue between the president's
office, the Honduran parliament and the military.
"The efforts accelerated over the weekend, as
Washington grew increasingly alarmed. "The players
decided, in the end, not to listen to our message,"
said one U.S. official involved in the diplomacy.

On Sunday, the U.S. embassy here tried repeatedly
to contact the Honduran military directly, but was
rebuffed. Washington called the removal of President
Zelaya a coup and said it wouldn't recognize any
other leader. "The U.S. stand was unpopular with
Honduran deputies. One congressman, Toribio Aguilera,
got prolonged applause from his colleagues when he
urged the U.S. ambassador to reconsider. Mr. Aguilera
said the U.S. didn't understand the danger that Mr.
Zelaya and his friendships with Mr. Chavez and
Cuba's Fidel Castro posed."

Then, shortly after Zelaya was overthrown, you
have a the usual suspects at work: Thomas Shannon,
who had been nominated to be the U.S. Ambassador
to Brazil, and Arturo Valenzuela, nominated to be
the new head of the Bureau of Western Hemisphere
Affairs at the State Department, and late of
Georgetown University, a native Chilean (who I
believe holds dual citizenship) who has made it
clear that he agrees with Hugo Chavez on many
issues and has defended him and his policies
publicly on many occasions.

Shannon's nomination was held up because Senator
Jim DeMint was unhappy with the way he had handled
the Honduras situation. I think when he got to
Brazil, he laid the groundwork for what is
happening now, working hand in hand with Valenzuela.

"DeMint also said that Shannon, in his State
Department post, “has still failed to show a clear
understanding of Honduras’s fight to defend democracy.

"...When pressed by DeMint about whether Honduras’s
military acted to defend the constitution against
abuses by Zelaya, Valenzuela said “I don’t want to
get into some of the details of this. I’m not
familiar myself with all of the details.”

"DeMint said Valenzuela’s responses were unsatisfactory.
“Mr. Valenzuela told me he didn’t even know the
facts in Honduras,” DeMint said in the statement
today. “Yet, everyday Zelaya’s own statements reveal
his true desire to be a Chavez- style dictator
advocating violence in order to return to power.”

The Honduran supreme court ruled that Zelaya had
acted unconstitutionally and removed him from
the presidency.

Hitlery called this a coup and has done everything
within her power short of calling for our doofus
in chief to use military power, to reinstall this
would be dictator back in office.

It is a damned shame that the Brazillian press
has criticized the Brazillian government for it's
involvement in this plot and our media here in
America acts as if it hasn't even happened
except to act like they are owned lock, stock
and barrel by Fidel Castro!!!

If we had a real state department rather than
the sham, scam one that Hitlery runs, then we
would have stood up for the rightful president
of the Ivory Coast instead of allowing the UN
to railroad him out of office, having French special
forces capture him and turn him over to rebelswho
will more than likely quietly lop his head off as
soon as the dust settles.