Honda Civic

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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
Change of plans on getting the Civic gonna probaly get a 2017 Kia Optima this weekend I don’t know much about Kia but I’ve seen where they are some of the most reliable cars around and they are good gas savers. Any other info you guys could provide would be helpful as well
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KIA is Hyundai's budget brand. They are indeed reliable, in general. Hyundai has really come a long way in the last decade or so. A friend of mine has a Soul and likes it. She has had to add about a quart of oil between oil changes after hitting 100k. But it's small matter. She's never had any major issues. It's running well at 150k and she just passed it down to her son.
 
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Kia is primarily owned by Hyundai. Not true to call them their budget brand though.
 
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volfanbill said:
Kia is primarily owned by Hyundai. Not true to call them their budget brand though.
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It might be more accurate to say Hyundai is the "luxury" brand and Kia is the mass market brand aimed at younger folks. Either way, they're good cars in my experience.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
It might be more accurate to say Hyundai is the "luxury" brand and Kia is the mass market brand aimed at younger folks. Either way, they're good cars in my experience.
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Still not accurate. They’re essentially separate just under the same ownership and therefore sometimes share parts. Neither the Telluride nor the Stinger are “budget” model cars nor necessarily aimed one way or the other. But yes, both brands have become quite reliable.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
It might be more accurate to say Hyundai is the "luxury" brand and Kia is the mass market brand aimed at younger folks. Either way, they're good cars in my experience.
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I had a Kia SUV as a rental a few years back and honestly wanted to buy one, of course I had no use for one. Walked away impressed. They entered the market by financing anyone with a pulse 20 years ago but it felt like a great product
 
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volfanbill said:
Still not accurate. They’re essentially separate just under the same ownership and therefore sometimes share parts. Neither the Telluride nor the Stinger are “budget” model cars nor necessarily aimed one way or the other. But yes, both brands have become quite reliable.
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I haven't been in either of those. So I can't speak to that. That's just how the KIA dealers I've talked to have explained it. I will say the Hyundai's I've been in are "nicer" in general than the KIAs and the KIAs tend to be cheaper. But I haven't actually driven one(other than my friends Soul) since about 2014. The Telluride sure is pretty to look at though.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
I haven't been in either of those. So I can't speak to that. That's just how the KIA dealers I've talked to have explained it. I will say the Hyundai's I've been in are "nicer" in general than the KIAs and the KIAs tend to be cheaper. But I haven't actually driven one(other than my friends Soul) since about 2014. The Telluride sure is pretty to look at though.
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Lulz, not knocking Hyundai per se, but someone never been in a stock Elantra
 
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volfanbill said:
Lulz, not knocking Hyundai per se, but someone never been in a stock Elantra
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As I said it's been since 2014. But I drove an Elantra and a Rio. The Elantra was nicer. I'm not trying to dog KIA, but I'm not sure why your white knighting them either.
 
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I thought about this thread today when my cousin called because the engine failed in his Hyundai at a little over 100,000 miles. That's the bad part...

The good part is that they're replacing it as part of their big recall due to bad rod bearings, even though his car specifically was never recalled.
 
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SycloneJoe said:
I’ve been there too. That sucks. It didn’t cost me that much because I do most of my own work but it still hurts. Honda guys always get defensive when I give that answer but I’m just being honest.

I’ve owned more cars than I can remember and I pretty much just buy domestics now days. I love GM trucks/SUV’s. I stay WAY away from anything European. Parts and repairs are WAY too specialized and expensive.
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Had a friend with a 70's model honda civic hatchback. Had over 100k miles and timing belt broke. Never ran the same.

My 1995.5 tacoma has a timing chain. Not supposed to break and more of a pain to replace.
 
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