Hooker:Dobbs::Golesh:Cutcliffe

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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Since 2011, 11 of 14 SEC teams have had an 11 win season, if you look into it, you'll see the rest of the P5 conferences are similar going back the last 15 years.
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11/14 is less than 80%.

Regardless, SEC is the exception. No other conference is putting up those numbers.

It’s not similar in the Big 10. It’s not similar in the PAC 12. Not similar in the Big 12. Might be slightly better in the ACC, but still not anywhere close to 80-90%.

I’d guess the number you say is 80-90% is actually somewhere around 45%. Feel free to crunch the numbers and tell me I’m wrong.
 
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IndianapolisVol said:
11/14 is less than 80%.

Regardless, SEC is the exception. No other conference is putting up those numbers.

It’s not similar in the Big 10. It’s not similar in the PAC 12. Not similar in the Big 12. Might be slightly better in the ACC, but still not anywhere close to 80-90%.

I’d guess the number you say is 80-90% is actually somewhere around 45%. Feel free to crunch the numbers and tell me I’m wrong.
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You check it bubby, I don't work for you. It'll be a hell of alot closer to 80-90 than 45.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
You check it bubby, I don't work for you. It'll be a hell of alot closer to 80-90 than 45.
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I’m not checking ****, pal. You’re the one making idiot claims that you can’t back up.

“Unfrozencvmanvol”

More like…. “NotGoodAtMathAndMakesStupidArgumentsVol”
 
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IndianapolisVol said:
I’m not checking ****, pal. You’re the one making idiot claims that you can’t back up.

“Unfrozencvmanvol”

More like…. “NotGoodAtMathAndMakesStupidArgumentsVol”
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No, I stated what I stated, you called ******** but backed it up with absolutely nothing and then I did a cursory check of our conference and verified that it was right at 80% going back a mere 12 seasons, and now you're just flapping your gums. Enjoy your night.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
No, I stated what I stated, you called ******** but backed it up with absolutely nothing and then I did a cursory check of our conference and verified that it was right at 80% going back a mere 12 seasons, and now you're just flapping your gums. Enjoy your night.
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11/14 is less than 80%.

You stated 80-90% across the power 5.

That’s wildly inaccurate. It’s highly likely that not a single power 5 conference is over 80%.

Ironic that you now claim that I didn’t backup my argument. This argument is yours, pal. You made the post. You offered the stats off the top of your head.

No wonder why so many people on here don’t get along with you.

Have a great night as well, little guy!!!!11
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
Last year was what some of the pundits habe insinuated: a magical season. A one-off.

A fluke.

Hendon Hooker was a dynamic, special player who made his coaching staff look good, just like Dobbs.

Heupel, so far, looks lost without Golesh, just like Fulmer did without Cutcliffe.

The dark ages are still upon us.
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That's very reactionary. I haven't heard anyone call last year a fluke. As a matter of fact, prior to the draft in April, most analysts were playing down the seasons that Hooker and Hyatt had last year as being a "product of the system." LOL.

I'm disappointed too ... but you are going to extremes.
 
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IndianapolisVol said:
11/14 is less than 80%.

You stated 80-90% across the power 5.

That’s wildly inaccurate. It’s highly likely that not a single power 5 conference is over 80%.

Ironic that you now claim that I didn’t backup my argument. This argument is yours, pal. You made the post. You offered the stats off the top of your head.

No wonder why so many people on here don’t get along with you.

Have a great night as well, little guy!!!!11
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Dude you've offered nothing but conjecture. I got to 11/14 just in our conference just going back 12 seasons. Just checked the Big XII and it's 11/14 too the last 15 years, Pac12 is only 6/12. That's 70% for all 3 combined, which is alot closer to 80 than 45. To my original point, perhaps too much was read into one 11 win season since 2008.
 
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Golesh scored 3 points today people. It’s Huepels system, some of you all just reach for the dumbest straws possible
 
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UTK said:
Golesh scored 3 points today people. It’s Huepels system, some of you all just reach for the dumbest straws possible
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And who was actually calling plays last year isn't clear. Heupel was ambiguous when asked. He said that Golesh had "some" play calling duties, but Golesh did not have full autonomy. It is Heupel's system.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
And who was actually calling plays last year isn't clear. Heupel was ambiguous when asked. He said that Golesh had "some" play calling duties, but Golesh did not have full autonomy. It is Heupel's system.
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Yeah. The difference ain’t Golesh. The difference is we don’t have Hendon or Mays playing atm. Ain’t rocket science
 
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UTK said:
Yeah. The difference ain’t Golesh. The difference is we don’t have Hendon or Mays playing atm. Ain’t rocket science
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Yes .... and also, Heupel should get some credit for the player that Hooker became. Hooker was a transfer from Virginia Tech, who wasn't heavily pursued when he was in their portal.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes .... and also, Heupel should get some credit for the player that Hooker became. Hooker was a transfer from Virginia Tech, who wasn't heavily pursued when he was in their portal.
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And some players just don’t have it. It’ll be very disappointing if Joe trots out there next week.
 
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UTK said:
And some players just don’t have it. It’ll be very disappointing if Joe trots out there next week.
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Yeah ... and for whatever reason, Heupel seems to have a soft spot for Milton. It's noteworthy that Milton also began the 2021 season as the starting QB. Could Milton have ever been outplaying Hooker in practice? That seems impossible now. Heupel is trying to jam a square peg into a round hole.
 
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11/14 is 78.6%. You’re going to make this argument over essentially 1 percentage point and then claim the real number across the P5 is closer to 40% Interesting logic there.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Dude you've offered nothing but conjecture. I got to 11/14 just in our conference just going back 12 seasons. Just checked the Big XII and it's 11/14 too the last 15 years, Pac12 is only 6/12. That's 70% for all 3 combined, which is alot closer to 80 than 45. To my original point, perhaps too much was read into one 11 win season since 2008.
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What about the other 2 power 5 conferences? Do that math. Love seeing you defend an incorrect statement so vehemently.
 
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We didn't think losing OC Golesh to USF was that Big a deal, but it's looking it had an immense impact on the Offense and possibly Joe's comfort level. Couple that with losing Wright to the NFL, and the Top scoring team last year gets 16 points vs Uf?
 
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I think it’s a bigger deal that we lost wright. Most people here were deluded into thinking that we would just retool with a bunch of 3 stars
 
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JohnWardForever said:
We didn't think losing OC Golesh to USF was that Big a deal, but it's looking it had an immense impact on the Offense and possibly Joe's comfort level. Couple that with losing Wright to the NFL, and the Top scoring team last year gets 10 points vs Uf?
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it was actually 16, but I agree, we lost a lot of production and experience in the system
 
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UTK said:
And some players just don’t have it. It’ll be very disappointing if Joe trots out there next week.
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Get ready.... Actually, if they are going to make the change, next week is the time. So if they don't, or at least split time, we know they aren't changing. As devastating as it would be for Joe, Hype better be thinking about anything & everything to salvage this season. AND his future. Recruits liable to bail .........
 
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JohnWardForever said:
You are right, I just looked at 10 so long.............And tacking on a late meaningless score .......
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I still don't understand much of the late game play calling. Where's Warren down the seam when both safeties are shading outside? Where is Dylan Sampson underneath? Milton also throws a decent deep ball, as evidenced by the meaningless score late in the game. Not sure why there weren't more deep shots instead of throwing it a yard on 3rd down and hoping the backs get 9 or 10 YACs .

It seems Heup/Golesh were taking at least 4-5 deep shots a game last year. It was baffling to say the least.
 
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