How are we still so delusional?

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#151
Frosty said:
How can this fan base still be so delusional to believe that we should be winning the SEC East this year? We all knew coming in that this would be a gap year, yet mid season because of how well Heupel has had this team playing, we expected to finish 10-2 in the toughest division in all of CFB, with a roster still dealing with fallout from the Pruitt era.

We are recruiting better than ever, have the top QB waiting in the wings, and still a damn good coach. Heupel didn’t fumble 3 times yesterday, he didn’t throw a pick 6. Injuries have decimated our thin defense, and even still we have had a top group that after a murderers row of opponents have just been thinned out.

I get it, we are all ready for success after these past 20 years, especially being so close to Georgia, Alabama, etc. but firing Heupel or blowing up the team because of a bad loss is asinine. This team is well on its way back to the top, but have some perspective and don’t let the year Heupel and Hooker carried us to last year fog that.
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It is what it is. Joe Milton’s ceiling has been reached. 8-5 or 9-4 is it. And honestly, given the horrible teams I’ve seen over the last 20 years, I’m fine with that.
 
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Mtnvol80 said:
Alabama was on probation. Saban comes in and loses 6 first year. Lost 3 one year and never more than 2 since. Kirby lost 6 first year and same thing. Lsu hires Brian Kelly. They have like 3 people left from the 2020 or 2021 class after Ogeron basically burned it to the ground. Wins the west the first year but it did help the west just happened to be at its weakest in a long time .

Harshin left auburn in horrible shape. Mullins left Florida in bad shape. Neither recruited worth a crap. The difference is when you hire 2 great coaches you see the results quickly and they maintain it. Was Georgia left in bad shape? No, but they had a cultural problem and Kirby fixed that quickly, recruited better than they ever have before and now you see the results. CJH is in year 3 with year 4 not looking any better. There are red flags. The biggest is how soft the players are. That's not a players problem that's a coaching problem. If 2025 isn't a break out year then it's not going to happen. 2022 is showing to be lightening in a bottle and it helped that bama wasn't their usual selves (a game that we won at the last second, at home, against a heavily penalized bama team, Florida was horrible and still is. I mean LSU won the west with 3 loses and then got boat raced by Georgia.

The reality of it also is that we're basically a 2nd tier sec team if you look at who we are are over the last 50 years. 9-3 should be about where we are with a few great seasons thrown in here and there. Basically beat everyone we should and lose to the normal 3 or 2 of the 3 then drop one we shouldn't. With TX and OK coming it will get tougher
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Again ... apples to oranges.

Heupel did not have a signing class in 2021, due to being hired so late in the cycle., Tennessee was also under an NCAA investigation for Level 1 rule violations, which the University administration had already publicly admitted to in a televised news conference. If you don't think that was used against Heupel on the recruiting trail, then you simply don't know recruiting. Heupel has also been dealing with self-imposed scholarship reductions.

The job Heupel did last year in going 11-2 was incredible, and yet that is left ignored in your hyper-alarmist tripe. I find it humorous that you mention LSU winning the west last year, but neglect to point out how Tennessee stomped their a$$ on the road 40-13

Finally, Tennessee's scheme is anything but soft. That is an ignorant thing to say. Tennessee's offense is predicated on being physical and running the ball. There are things which obviously need to be improved. Tennessee is way too heavily penalized. This reflects a lack of discipline. They must also learn to consistently play with the same amount of confidence on the road, as they do at home. You are trying too hard to be negative. If Tennessee football is such a source of misery for you .... then find something else to follow. Cornhole, maybe?
 
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VolinMichigan said:
It is what it is. Joe Milton’s ceiling has been reached. 8-5 or 9-4 is it. And honestly, given the horrible teams I’ve seen over the last 20 years, I’m fine with that.
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I am with ya dude. It wasn't too long ago when we had gap or down years with no bowl appearance having to settle for 5 wins and the ceiling was going 8-4 with Butch (He had some horses). I will gladly take going 8-4 with chance to win 9 in a down year.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Again ... apples to oranges.

Heupel did not have a signing class in 2021, due to being hired so late in the cycle., Tennessee was also under an NCAA investigation for Level 1 rule violations, which the University administration had already publicly admitted to in a televised news conference. If you don't think that was used against Heupel on the recruiting trail, then you simply don't know recruiting. Heupel has also been dealing with self-imposed scholarship reductions.

The job Heupel did last year in going 11-2 was incredible, and yet that is left ignored in your hyper-alarmist tripe. I find it humorous that you mention LSU winning the west last year, but neglect to point out how Tennessee stomped their a$$ on the road 40-13

Finally, Tennessee's scheme is anything but soft. That is an ignorant thing to say. Tennessee's offense is predicated on being physical and running the ball. There are things which obviously need to be improved. Tennessee is way too heavily penalized. This reflects a lack of discipline. They must also learn to consistently play with the same amount of confidence on the road, as they do at home. You are trying too hard to be negative. If Tennessee football is such a source of misery for you .... then find something else to follow. Cornhole, maybe?
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Literally nothing I said isn't a fact. That's the problem with team message boards. Reality of it doesn't matter. It's an echo chamber. If you're not screaming we're the best at everything you're a negavol or outsider! Soft is all on the coaches. Attitude reflects leadership
 
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Mtnvol80 said:
Literally nothing I said isn't a fact. That's the problem with team message boards. Reality of it doesn't matter. It's an echo chamber. If you're not screaming we're the best at everything you're a negavol or outsider! Soft is all on the coaches. Attitude reflects leadership
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If you are going to accurately assess Heupel's 3 year tenure, then it is ridiculous to completely omit an entire season, and yet, that is what you did by failing to even mention 2022. That is indicative of an agenda. You just want to be negative. Most of you what you said is hyperbolic and only half the story.
 
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