how did kiffin become 4th highest paid coach in CFB?

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Lol at anyone in this saying that Kiffin "failed" in 2009. Regardless of what he did, most UT fans were excited about the direction we were going in at that point. I'm not defending Kiffin by any means and i'm glad we don't have to worry about him being in charge anymore, but I definitely didn't label that season as a failure going into 2010. Objectively speaking, he inherited a mess.
 
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duckman398686 said:
Lol at everyone in this saying that Kiffin "failed" in 2009. Regardless of what he did, most UT fans were excited about the direction we were going in at that point. I'm not defending Kiffin by any means and i'm glad we don't have to worry about him being in charge anymore, but I definitely didn't label that season as a failure going into 2010. Objectively speaking, he inherited a mess.
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Failure? Not really. But he left two W's on the board. It shouldn't have been that close against UCLA, and we should have beaten 'Bama.

I do applaud him for having us in that position against 'Bama, though.
 
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duckman398686 said:
Lol at everyone in this saying that Kiffin "failed" in 2009. Regardless of what he did, most UT fans were excited about the direction we were going in at that point. I'm not defending Kiffin by any means and i'm glad we don't have to worry about him being in charge anymore, but I definitely didn't label that season as a failure going into 2010. Objectively speaking, he inherited a mess.
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I have never said he failed here. I'm just not sold on his head coaching skills. Some on here act like he is the next Knute Rockne.
 
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615 Vol said:
Yet you expected Dooley to work miracles in year 2 with the garbage the phailure left.
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This post should be directed at the overall wearers who predicted 9 or 10 wins last year, not at me. I'm pretty sure I predicted a losing season the entire time.
 
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SGMVols said:
This post should be directed at the overall wearers who predicted 9 or 10 wins last year, not at me. I'm pretty sure I predicted a losing season the entire time.
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The low you've reached equates to treason. What a joke.
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SGMVols said:
This post should be directed at the overall wearers who predicted 9 or 10 wins last year, not at me. I'm pretty sure I predicted a losing season the entire time.
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"pretty sure". Good try SGM.
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SGMVols said:
This post should be directed at the overall wearers who predicted 9 or 10 wins last year, not at me. I'm pretty sure I predicted a losing season the entire time.
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VKAman said:
Yeah, God forbid anyone predict a 6-7 season when we went 6-7. He must not be a real fan.
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My point wasn't about predicting wins or loses it was that you were willing to give Kiffin a chance and time to turn it around but immediately wrote Dooley off. If you're saying no way Kiffin could have won (which I agree) with the garbage he had to work with than why are you so hard on Dooley? Are you that high on Kiffin's draft class that you expected 2010 to be a huge improvement?

If you don't like Dooley that is completely your right but you have to agree that it's still too soon to know how good (or bad) he will be at UT.
 
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I htink USC paid Kiffin this much money for 5 reasons...
1) No body else wanted the job...they were self-aware of this (currently see OSU)
2) They knew they could get him
3) They know he can recruit
4) Once the sanctions are over, the cupboard is stocked for a new guy
5) They now have justification to pay the new head coach (i.e. someone currently in the NFL 5 Mill a year)

JMO...
 
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IndianaVol said:
I htink USC paid Kiffin this much money for 5 reasons...
1) No body else wanted the job...they were self-aware of this (currently see OSU)
2) They knew they could get him
3) They know he can recruit
4) Once the sanctions are over, the cupboard is stocked for a new guy
5) They now have justification to pay the new head coach (i.e. someone currently in the NFL 5 Mill a year)

JMO...
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If you know you can get someone, you don't just give them more money anyway for the hell of it.

And they don't need justification to pay big money...they're USC. How much was Mike Shula making before Saban got there?
 
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VKAman said:
If you know you can get someone, you don't just give them more money anyway for the hell of it.

And they don't need justification to pay big money...they're USC. How much was Mike Shula making before Saban got there?
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See reason 5...I believe they primarily pay him this much so they can pay the next guy even more...and guarantee they get whomever they want...no argiung with 5 mill plus a year.
 
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IndianaVol said:
See reason 5...I believe they primarily pay him this much so they can pay the next guy even more...and guarantee they get whomever they want...no argiung with 5 mill plus a year.
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Why not just pay the next guy 5 million without paying Kiffin more to do it?
 
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IndianaVol said:
See reason 5...I believe they primarily pay him this much so they can pay the next guy even more...and guarantee they get whomever they want...no argiung with 5 mill plus a year.
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The second part of my post was in response to reason 5...so I'll ask again...how much was Bama paying Shula before they gave Saban 4 mil?
 
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That's what naturally happens when you have one of the best jobs in NCAA... we will see how he does at USC though with the sanctions
 
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615 Vol said:
Why not just pay the next guy 5 million without paying Kiffin more to do it?
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VKAman said:
The second part of my post was in response to reason 5...so I'll ask again...how much was Bama paying Shula before they gave Saban 4 mil?
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I see your guys point...and to answer the question, I believe it was in the 1.5 to 2 million range.
I'm just saying, that I think USC is trying to set up a precedent of paying this much so they don't have to haggle to pay the next guy.

Remember, they are a private institution and it is probably easier to get the cash flow now than to try to get it later when the economy is not so good. By ecoomy I mean the football receipts may also suffer through the sanctions...
 
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IndianaVol said:
I see your guys point...and to answer the question, I believe it was in the 1.5 to 2 million range.
I'm just saying, that I think USC is trying to set up a precedent of paying this much so they don't have to haggle to pay the next guy.

Remember, they are a private institution and it is probably easier to get the cash flow now than to try to get it later when the economy is not so good. By ecoomy I mean the football receipts may also suffer through the sanctions...
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Bama was under sanction and paid Shula 900K, then raised it to 1.5 mil, then gave Saban 4 mil.

You're saying USC will be the opposite and they'll have less and less cash when their sanctions go away?
 
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VKAman said:
Bama was under sanction and paid Shula 900K, then raised it to 1.5 mil, then gave Saban 4 mil.

You're saying USC will be the opposite and they'll have less and less cash when their sanctions go away?
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I'm just saying that perhaps USC was being a little proactive in the situation and paying the coach under the sanction (Kiffin or not) period a little more so the precedent would be there to pay a guy 5 mill/yr after the sanctions.
 
#49
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I honestly think Lane would've had Tennessee in the position to win a championship in 3-4 years. Whether or not we would've kept that championship...eh?
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
thats alot of money for being about the same or imo less proven as muschamp
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Muschamp is about as proven as Weis was going into ND.

At least Kiffen has HC experience. He did good things at UT. Good, not great, but I was excited for 2010.... and then... well, you know.
 
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