How difficult it is to win cws

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cncchris33 said:
Again, I'm not saying it doesn't create a disadvantage. It certainly does. Being at a disadvantage beats heading home, though, doesn't it? I'm sure the men's basketball team would love to have had the opportunity to play out of the loser's bracket. I'm just shocked that I have to justify the idea that a single-elimination tournament is a more difficult environment than a double-elimination tournament, much less what equates to 4 small double-elimination tournaments (Regionals, Supers, CWS, CWS Final series).

And it doesn't really have to be an extreme example to justify it. If Tennessee goes 2-1 against Notre Dame, this weekend and then runs thru the CWS to the title, then they were still afforded a misstep that no NCAA basketball champ ever received.

I respect your opinion, I just can't bring myself to agree with it.
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Baseball is double elimination, because of the randomness factor. It has been designed that way for 100+ years, because it is a more difficult game to win day after day. Little things (like 0.2 degrees of launch angle, etc.) have much bigger impacts. Star players only get 3-4 times up at the plate. Star pitchers can only throw once a week.
 
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nashvillepanther said:
Interesting perspective. Baseball has more upsets and less talent disparity across all levels of competition, which was the basis of my thinking. Some Florida JUCO teams are better than northern D-1 teams.

Would Fresno State (or a similar team) ever win March Madness?
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Hard to say if a Fresno level team would win March Madness in any given year, but Butler made it to the championship game two years in a row in the last decade. George Mason made it to the Final 4, as well. There are several off-the-wall examples of teams that put themselves in a position to win it all and likely upset a team along the way that would have likely beaten them in a best of three series. To me, that is what makes winning it so difficult. It takes luck and being hot at just the right time.
 
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400 baseball teams, one CWS winner equals .25% ballpark.? We would have to keep our chit together, and get lucky bounces, which is very hard to accomplish. It is crazy difficult.
But, we can lose three more games if we space them out into the right spots. So, no one has to be perfect.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Disagree. Basketball (NCAA Tournament) is much more random and doesn’t allow for a mulligan via double elimination, nor a second mulligan via three-game series in the championship. Basketball requires perfection across a 6-game tournament. No margin for error. In the baseball postseason, you can lose up to 4 games in the NCAA Tournament across Regionals, Super Regionals, and the College World Series and still win the title.
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As it should be with beisbol. Margin of error is required and exhibited in the mlb model.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
As it should be with beisbol. Margin of error is required and exhibited in the mlb model.
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And I'm not faulting the model. It is what it is, thus making it a difficult apples:apples comparison. I'm just saying the college basketball equivalent is more difficult. Even it's professional model (NBA) allows for multiple missteps. March Madness requires perfection.
 
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cncchris33 said:
And I'm not faulting the model. It is what it is, thus making it a difficult apples:apples comparison. I'm just saying the college basketball equivalent is more difficult. Even it's professional model (NBA) allows for multiple missteps. March Madness requires perfection.
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Agreed. I just think the one and done in roundy ball is ridiculous.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Disagree. Basketball (NCAA Tournament) is much more random and doesn’t allow for a mulligan via double elimination, nor a second mulligan via three-game series in the championship. Basketball requires perfection across a 6-game tournament. No margin for error. In the baseball postseason, you can lose up to 4 games in the NCAA Tournament across Regionals, Super Regionals, and the College World Series and still win the title.
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So how many more games does Tennessee have to win to be champions? Is it 4 or 6?
 
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