How do you assess this season?

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They have ended the season on a good run, but it was against bad teams. They played a great first half today, but disappeared in the second. They're likely in the tournament, but if they go out in the first round is the season a success? Unlike some, I think the regular season matters. With the schedule they played they probably should have lost 5 games instead of 12. I think it's a bit like the football team expecting to go 10-2, but going 7-5. I said before the season that this team needed to 1) win a bunch of games (>25) or 2) go on a deep tournament run for a successful season . . . still a chance for the latter.
 
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win-loss record should have been better, but if they can make noise in the tournament, people will let that slide.....

i think
 
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Confused. Had we played with the defensive intensity we have played with the last 4 games at the very least we would have gotten KY today. The second half today withstanding pushing the ball ahead and working the ball inside out is almost like a new offense.
 
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cbrown said:
They have ended the season on a good run, but it was against bad teams. They played a great first half today, but disappeared in the second. They're likely in the tournament, but if they go out in the first round is the season a success? Unlike some, I think the regular season matters. With the schedule they played they probably should have lost 5 games instead of 12. I think it's a bit like the football team expecting to go 10-2, but going 7-5. I said before the season that this team needed to 1) win a bunch of games (>25) or 2) go on a deep tournament run for a successful season . . . still a chance for the latter.
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It's not over yet. I will assess after the NCAA. And they are IN!!!
 
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cbrown said:
They have ended the season on a good run, but it was against bad teams. They played a great first half today, but disappeared in the second. They're likely in the tournament, but if they go out in the first round is the season a success? Unlike some, I think the regular season matters. With the schedule they played they probably should have lost 5 games instead of 12. I think it's a bit like the football team expecting to go 10-2, but going 7-5. I said before the season that this team needed to 1) win a bunch of games (>25) or 2) go on a deep tournament run for a successful season . . . still a chance for the latter.
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Tennessee can not beat Ky , Fla , with Conzo the Great:whistling:
 
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cbrown said:
They have ended the season on a good run, but it was against bad teams. They played a great first half today, but disappeared in the second. They're likely in the tournament, but if they go out in the first round is the season a success? Unlike some, I think the regular season matters. With the schedule they played they probably should have lost 5 games instead of 12. I think it's a bit like the football team expecting to go 10-2, but going 7-5. I said before the season that this team needed to 1) win a bunch of games (>25) or 2) go on a deep tournament run for a successful season . . . still a chance for the latter.
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Glad we are going to make it to the tourney. 21 wins is a good season. Lots of teams wish that they had 21 wins and were headed to the NCAA.

However; in Martin's 1st season, Stokes didn't play until January and he wasn't in college shape at the time. Martins 2nd season, we lost Maymon. Now in Martin's 3rd season, with Stokes having developed real well and with Maymon healthy, us fans thought that the sky was the limit. We thought that 25 wins was possible in the regular season and a couple more in the S.E.C. tourney. Season didn't meet the fans expectations.

Disappointed that this season was injury free and was upper classmen heavy. ( Barton, Stokes, Maymon & McRae are all juniors or seniors) yet we still lost 6 close games. With a healthy team and upper classman leadership, we should have won the close ones.


Just getting in to the tourney is the start. Now we need to get on a hot shooting streak and get some upsets. So, regardless if we win 21 games and are a 12th seed or we win 26 or 27 and ended up a 5th seed, we are still in. In the history of the NCAA, plenty of 12th seeds have played themselves deep in to the tourney. So it is possible to go far. Depending on the match ups and if we get on a hot shooting streak.
 
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It goes back to how we performed against expectations, and most would agree we underperformed in the regular season.

That being said, making the tourney was the goal, and maybe we have done that...? But if we lose in the first round, we haven't exceeded expectations, only met.

The situation with the roster is concerning, I don't feel like this program is on the rise, and I fear next year we will have regressed.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Glad we are going to make it to the tourney. 21 wins is a good season. Lots of teams wish that they had 21 wins and were headed to the NCAA.

However; in Martin's 1st season, Stokes didn't play until January and he wasn't in college shape at the time. Martins 2nd season, we lost Maymon. Now in Martin's 3rd season, with Stokes having developed real well and with Maymon healthy, us fans thought that the sky was the limit. We thought that 25 wins was possible in the regular season and a couple more in the S.E.C. tourney. Season didn't meet the fans expectations.

Disappointed that this season was injury free and was upper classmen heavy. ( Barton, Stokes, Maymon & McRae are all juniors or seniors) yet we still lost 6 close games. With a healthy team and upper classman leadership, we should have won the close ones.


Just getting in to the tourney is the start. Now we need to get on a hot shooting streak and get some upsets. So, regardless if we win 21 games and are a 12th seed or we win 26 or 27 and ended up a 5th seed, we are still in. In the history of the NCAA, plenty of 12th seeds have played themselves deep in to the tourney. So it is possible to go far. Depending on the match ups and if we get on a hot shooting streak.
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Robert Hubbs (and Maymon to some extent) would say otherwise.
 
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General jack gets it.... this team has underperformed all year, except the last 4 or so games when we beat a bunch of nobodies. .to me, this season has been a failure, cuonzo is a failure, and next year is gonna be a nightmare. .
 
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The season was very boring. The style of basketball we played up until about 2-3 weeks ago was just bland. CCM feels almost like an interim coach, as none of us REALLY expected him to do GREAT at UT. Now, the real question is soon to have an answer...that is, will CCM get an extension?

As an AD, I don't see how you keep CCM based on post regular season performance. Sure, his record isn't terrible overall, but his record in March is as good as Dooleys bowl record.

This fan base wants Bruce Pearl. And I'm not sure how the AD can ignore that with 35,000 signatures on that petition. You either hire him and WIN, both with fans and ticket sales, or let another SEC school hire him and watch THEM win. There's no risk in rehiring him. New AD, new start. However, keeping Zo will just put us further and further in the hole, and the stands will be empty.
 
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Not on Martin's bandwagon. Late win streak was against
weak SEC teams. Offense scores only 14 2nd half points!
Nothing against the guy. I just don't like the way he runs the team, too conservative in game. Just IMO.
 
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Season hasn't ended yet. However, Bruce Pearl showed us what success looks like and this season, so far, ain't it. Buzz went 61-59 (.508) in 4 seasons, Cuonzo has bettered that with 60-40 (.600) in 2+ seasons with the tourney to go. Bruce went 145-61 (.704) making National Coach of the Year the first season, 6 NCAA appearances, and the rest is history.

I got used to winning under Pearl and this year's talented team under his direction would IMO never have been in doubt of an NCAA bid at any time.

This year's NCAA and next year will tell the tale for Cuonzo, but Bruce Pearl has set the bar for Tennessee fans who want to beat hell out of KY and FL and then go deep into the tourney. Auburn, who fired Tony Barbee yesterday, and Alabama, if they fire Billy Jr, are already ready to make a play for Pearl so their fans think (see AL.com).
 
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TNslammabama said:
Season hasn't ended yet. However, Bruce Pearl showed us what success looks like and this season, so far, ain't it. Buzz went 61-59 (.508) in 4 seasons, Cuonzo has bettered that with 60-40 (.600) in 2+ seasons with the tourney to go. Bruce went 145-61 (.704) making National Coach of the Year the first season, 6 NCAA appearances, and the rest is history.

I got used to winning under Pearl and this year's talented team under his direction would IMO never have been in doubt of an NCAA bid at any time.

This year's NCAA and next year will tell the tale for Cuonzo, but Bruce Pearl has set the bar for Tennessee fans who want to beat hell out of KY and FL and then go deep into the tourney. Auburn, who fired Tony Barbee yesterday, and Alabama, if they fire Billy Jr, are already ready to make a play for Pearl so their fans think (see AL.com).
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I would get physically ill if Pearl went to barn or bubba.
 
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MeanOrange said:
Not on Martin's bandwagon. Late win streak was against
weak SEC teams. Offense scores only 14 2nd half points!
Nothing against the guy. I just don't like the way he runs the team, too conservative in game. Just IMO.
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Even more interesting stat: In the 2nd half of the the 3 Florida games combined, we were out scored 103 - 40.

Not sure the reason for it, but it does make one question exactly what's going on at half-time concerning adjustments.

As for the op's question, I think the season (to this point) has been disappointing. Not making the finals of the SEC tourney, and being a potential 11 or 12 seed with a veteran and talented roster is an underachievement, IMO.

On the other hand, I've seen much worse at Tennessee. CCM isn't Wade Houston or Buzz Peterson. I just don't think long term he will compete year in and year out with Ky and Fla in this league.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Glad we are going to make it to the tourney. 21 wins is a good season. Lots of teams wish that they had 21 wins and were headed to the NCAA.

However; in Martin's 1st season, Stokes didn't play until January and he wasn't in college shape at the time. Martins 2nd season, we lost Maymon. Now in Martin's 3rd season, with Stokes having developed real well and with Maymon healthy, us fans thought that the sky was the limit. We thought that 25 wins was possible in the regular season and a couple more in the S.E.C. tourney. Season didn't meet the fans expectations.

Disappointed that this season was injury free and was upper classmen heavy. ( Barton, Stokes, Maymon & McRae are all juniors or seniors) yet we still lost 6 close games. With a healthy team and upper classman leadership, we should have won the close ones.


Just getting in to the tourney is the start. Now we need to get on a hot shooting streak and get some upsets. So, regardless if we win 21 games and are a 12th seed or we win 26 or 27 and ended up a 5th seed, we are still in. In the history of the NCAA, plenty of 12th seeds have played themselves deep in to the tourney. So it is possible to go far. Depending on the match ups and if we get on a hot shooting streak.
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We were not injury free. Maymon has never been near 100%. Hubbs our best reserve and recruit who we were counting on, was injured and limited then out for the season.
 
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A series of disappointments. Each one bigger than the last. One good victory over a Virginia team who had yet to find itself. 1 win and 5 losses vs our 3 biggest rivals. The lone win came against a Vandy team with 7 scholarship players. Embarrassing losses to Texas A&M twice, UTEP and Vandy.

In one word.... Disappointing.
 
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cbrown said:
They have ended the season on a good run, but it was against bad teams. They played a great first half today, but disappeared in the second. They're likely in the tournament, but if they go out in the first round is the season a success? Unlike some, I think the regular season matters. With the schedule they played they probably should have lost 5 games instead of 12. I think it's a bit like the football team expecting to go 10-2, but going 7-5. I said before the season that this team needed to 1) win a bunch of games (>25) or 2) go on a deep tournament run for a successful season . . . still a chance for the latter.
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The whole point of any season is to get to the tourney, which Tennessee will accomplish tomorrow, of that I have no doubt. As a fan, I'm disappointed in how they played inconsistently all year. If UT plays well in the first game and wins, then I will say it was a success. If they get to the Sweet 16 a huge success.
 
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We made great run at the end of the season, played number 1 team in country down to the wire in the SEC tournament and we are headed to the NCAA Tournament. If I read this post without knowing where we are I would think the season was over and was a dismal failure. What the heck to some of these people want?
 
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