How do you restart a football program?

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Unsure about what the recruiting rules would be but Technically you don't need THAT many plAyers to play just enough for the offense, defense and special teams. I know it's college so injury and physical toll is a concern but my Highshool team only had 23 guys and we went undefeated in the regular season and deep into the playoffs often playing teams that had 50 or 60 guys on their rosters, only to lose in overtime to the regional championship game. My point is starting a football team isnt difficult, it's really a matter of will. And I know highschool is not a great comparison but if you look at it from a technical view it is essentially the same number of positions. Sure a team with less depth, first year program will probably lose, a lot, but expectations for a new program can't be high.
 
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A small college I worked for in La Grange, GA did this about 6 or 7 years ago. IIRC, they were D3 so didn't have scholarships to work with in the first place. My recollection is that they started with walk-ons, track guys, and a freshman recruiting class and played that first year. They then built on that first class year by year. The reason for doing this is that even if you could recruit 80 players your first year, where does that leave you after they graduate? You can't exactly recruit 80 players every 4 years and expect to be successful. Also, they number you were looking for is actually 85. That's what the NCAA allows for scholarship players in D1 and D2. I have no idea what the limit for D3 school is as they don't have scholarships. I guess theoretically there isn't a limit since there aren't the limitations of scholarships.
 
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daltonj220 said:
I live in upper east tn and live near Etsu. Me and the guys at work were sitting around talking about how you recruit a whole new team? I know theres limits per class each year,but does that apply to start up?or do they let the new team recruit 80? I thought i'd pose the question to fellow vols fans who probally know alot more about it than myself! Any info would be interesting.
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Probably no choice anyway, but go after players that have 1 or no star rating and obviously not selected by not even any marginally mid-major program. You will at least field a team with players who want to play and this is the only chance they'd get. But if you guys do get Fulmer, you will get at least some 2 star and maybe a few leftover 3 star players.
 
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The reason the NCAA wont allow a large rule bending class is specifically to keep programs from having 60-80 players all graduate the program in 4 years leaving them in worse shape than before
 
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daltonj220 said:
I live in upper east tn and live near Etsu. Me and the guys at work were sitting around talking about how you recruit a whole new team? I know theres limits per class each year,but does that apply to start up?or do they let the new team recruit 80? I thought i'd pose the question to fellow vols fans who probally know alot more about it than myself! Any info would be interesting.
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Regardless of the rule you would not want more than 30 players in any class. I think you would just have to fill in with walk on players and non scholarship players the first season. It would take about three seasons to get to 85 scholarship players but then you would have graduating classes and could start working on better classes each year. You just can't build a program in one year it is a three to four year project.

The rule seems to be you can add eighty five the first season. A look at the Stetson roster that restarted football shows 99 players can't determine how many are on scholarship. Regardless they divided the players into two classed freshmen and RS freshmen so they will have about even freshmen and sophomores want be doing much recruiting until one of these classes graduates. Football - Roster - Welcome to Stetson University
 
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Recruit all the "pla-yas" kicked off all the other SEC schools for criminal activity, academics or other "off-field" incidents and "back-count" everyone toward last year's allotment (25). Then recruit every JUCO player for this year's crop and fill it (25). Then invite all interested parties for walk-ons (10-12). Right there you'd have 62 players/"pla-yas" and could potentially compete against cup-cakes you selectively put on your schedule.

Wash-rinse-repeat for next 4-6 years as space allows.
 
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RedStickVOL said:
A small college I worked for in La Grange, GA did this about 6 or 7 years ago. IIRC, they were D3 so didn't have scholarships to work with in the first place. My recollection is that they started with walk-ons, track guys, and a freshman recruiting class and played that first year. They then built on that first class year by year. The reason for doing this is that even if you could recruit 80 players your first year, where does that leave you after they graduate? You can't exactly recruit 80 players every 4 years and expect to be successful. Also, they number you were looking for is actually 85. That's what the NCAA allows for scholarship players in D1 and D2. I have no idea what the limit for D3 school is as they don't have scholarships. I guess theoretically there isn't a limit since there aren't the limitations of scholarships.
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Hey, RedstickVol, I just friend requested you. We definitely gotta represent the Orange in BR this season!
 
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Get a coach who has won it all, have the campus curriculum cater to popular women studies such as veteranian, libtard arts, and nursing. So there will be babes galore. Open a Hooters/Tilted Kilt on campus, upgrade all athletic facilities. Free tutors.

Find a sugar daddy donor like T. Boone Pickens. That should be a good start.

But you still have to recruit.
 
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