How does UT's Academic Reqmt's hurt recruiting

[photovol]

Don't many of our players major in sparts mangemnt or chiminal justics

 

[dlw4n]

When discussing academics, there is never a reason to use "Bama" and "FL" in the same sentence.

You do realize that both of these schools are more highly rated than Tennessee for academics, right?

 

[therealUT]

Did somebody mention tough academic standards?

 

[rockytop9808]

It doesn't hurt us. The fact of the matter is that people dislike Cheek because of his background at Florida in much the same way some people will continue to find reasons not to like Hart because he was at Alabama. Ultimately, the athlete is responsible for their academics, and any standards in place have been fully explained to them. The reality is that there is no disadvantage versus the other schools and more often than not this has been drudged up as a way to excuse lackluster recruiting experienced over the last several years.

That's the reason the assclowns here don't like him.

As for the academic side, he's not that great of a chancellor.

 

[therealitytheory]

Doug Matthews bangs the drum that pinheads like Bensel-Myers and Cheek were the downfall of his beloved Phul Filmer. The usual suspects around here lap that stuff up.

 

[volboy81]

candy claims their standards haven't changed. hmy:

Candy lies!
But what would you expect from the most heatheanistic university in the country.

 

[sanddune50]

The bigger issue isn't the GPA, it's that UT requires students that received below a C in a class at a junior or community college have to re-take that class when they enter UT.

This stems from the state passing a regulation several years ago that Board of Regents schools and the UT system have to accept transfer students that graduate from a BOR community college. What was happening was, many of these students that struggled through community college were failing out of UT because they were entering with little chance of overall success. So the decision was made to not accept classes below a C for credit to graduate.

Here's where that hurts athletes: The NCAA has a "Progression Toward a Degree" requirement that says, to be eligible, a player has to have a certain percentage of credits toward graduation in a specific major after their 2nd, 3rd and 4th (in case of redshirts) years to remain eligible for the next year. JuCo kids don't have the requirement coming in (after second year), but they have to get there by the end of their first year. For most guys, that's no problem, even if they struggle a little bit coming in.

Most JuCo guys that come in do so either in January or in time for summer school. If they have to re-take classes to satisfy UT's requirement, they get those knocked out during spring or summer and are fine for progression toward a major with fall and the following spring classes. When players, like the one mentioned in your post, don't arrive until fall, then have to re-take classes, it is very difficult for them to meet the NCAA's standards after the first year.

Explains why McCullers and Couch were able to make it to there senior year, as where CP was 1 and done as soon as he committed.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Glen i can't respect any questions or statements you have . For God sakes you like alabama. Saying you like UT and alabama is saying you love the USA ( greatest country in the world if I might add) but have a soft spot for the taliban. Pick a school. My grandfather played baseball at alabama but i could give two craps about that fing school and would never stray away from being all vol. The only way i would ever cheer for bama is if my son played for them but we all know that wouldnt happen becasuse i am pretty sure he is going to be all vol anyways. Just giving you a hard time for that stupid elephant picture. Also lacrosse is for people above the mason dixon line.

Also it doesnt hurt recruiting.

1) read my sig, it's just the way it is.
2) Better check with the ACC below the Mason Dixon on Lacrosse. Duke and NC play a mean game and UVA is pretty awesome too. The days of Johns Hopkins killing everyone have come to an end. GO BLUEJAYS!

 

[82_VOL_83]

This sentiment is basically what I thought. Didn't know about the JUCO "C" transfer rule but hey, if you can't get a "C" in a class in JUCO, big boy school is going to be rough. Thanks for the input here. I have seen many piss and moan about "Cheek's policies" hurting recruiting but no one stepped up to say just what they were. I couldn't see us having tougher policies than any other school (as has been mentioned REPEATEDLY on VN). I mean we took a bonehead that couldn't get into FL. How much tougher can we be???

Thanks for the insight most of you. The smartass answers are always appreciated for their entertainment value.

 

[volinSmyrna]

VolinSmyrna, any idea how this may help us when the new NCAA requirements come down in 2015, I believe??

Not sure. I haven't seen what the changes were. I hope whatever changes they are help us out.

 

[Bluetic]

CBJ said that recruiting is basicly "selling" your university, and lets face it, all coaches want the kids that make it in class anyway for obvious reasons. I mean its not like UT has MIT or Harvard standards. If the kids cant meet the standards, they proly wont stick anyway like so many examples we are familliar with. These standards can be an added recruiting tool imo.