How dysfunctional is the GOP right now !!!

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Romney is outright loathed by a substantial percentage of the party. I'd say more than half is at best lukewarm with him.

Perry is actually having to say he isn't a drunk.

Bachmman's staff in New Hampshire quit.

Gingrich's interest in being president is half-hearted.

Paul is a dottering mess.

And Cain's campaign is in shambles.


9.1 % unemployment, protests in the streets of many major cities. And the GOP comes up with this motley bunch?

Wow.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Romney is outright loathed by a substantial percentage of the party. I'd say more than half is at best lukewarm with him.

Perry is actually having to say he isn't a drunk.

Bachmman's staff in New Hampshire quit.

Gingrich's interest in being president is half-hearted.

Paul is a dottering mess.

And Cain's campaign is in shambles.


9.1 % unemployment, protests in the streets of many major cities. And the GOP comes up with this motley bunch?

Wow.
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Hmmmm...it's not like the Dems are presenting us with better solutions, since Obama will undoubtedly win their nomination. He's played more of a role in the 9% unemployment as well as the protests in the street than anybody you just named.
 
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I have a feeling this thread is going to get a lot of attention!!!
 
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nbakerld said:
The problem is the cream of the crop will likely never win a nomination in either party.
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Oh, I don't know. Clinton, Reagan. They were both good presidents, in their own respects.
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lawgator1 said:
Romney is outright loathed by a substantial percentage of the party. I'd say more than half is at best lukewarm with him.

Perry is actually having to say he isn't a drunk.

Bachmman's staff in New Hampshire quit.

Gingrich's interest in being president is half-hearted.

Paul is a dottering mess.

And Cain's campaign is in shambles.


9.1 % unemployment, protests in the streets of many major cities. And the GOP comes up with this motley bunch?

Wow.
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Yet, all of them would be way better than what we currently have.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Can they sell that ?

None of them appears remotely presidential.
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pretty funny from a guy that voted for Obama

UE stays there and it won't matter if they run Reagan's bones for Pres
 
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lawgator1 said:
Can they sell that ?

None of them appears remotely presidential.
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The problem is the next batch appears to have the super stars in it. The good news is Barry has been such a disaster that the GOP voters will be so excited to get him out they will show up to vote for anyone on the R ticket and I feel this applies to most Independents as well.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Oh, I don't know. Clinton, Reagan. They were both good presidents, in their own respects.
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Maybe (def. not in my opinion*), but both had big scandals, which hopefully would disqualify them from being cream of the crop.

* I love Reagan's rhetoric, and Clinton was decent domestically. Other than that, I don't really like either one.
 
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nbakerld said:
Maybe (def. not in my opinion*), but both had big scandals, which hopefully would disqualify them from being cream of the crop.

* I love Reagan's rhetoric, and Clinton was decent domestically. Other than that, I don't really like either one.
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I think it has to do with timing. Reagan might have been terrible at a different point, same with Clinton. But they were both overall the right men for the job at the right time.

I understand the argument that Obama's political philosophy is bad for this moment. I can see both sides of that, however, since it sure seems that the sentiment behind a lot of what he says and why he was elected is at the forefront right now.

Decades of corporate abuse, fraud by the financial houses, padding their own incomes while buying off the regulators and politicians. Its coming to a head, that's for sure.

When I look at this group of GOP contenders, even putting aside any partisan or ideological preferences, absolutely no one stands out as the statesman I think we need right now.

I give credit to Cain for coming up with a catchy slogan that at least causes an earnest debate about tax policy. But after the slogan it has proven to be fraught with deficiencies, problems, holes, etc. And further after that, Cain himself has now been exposed as not ready for prime time.

If I were a Republican, I'd almost be mad at my own party for not being able to come up with someone that can deal with these fundamental problems and not come off as hair-brained, or a kook.

Jeb Bush might have been your best bet, really.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Can they sell that ?

None of them appears remotely presidential.
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All they have to do is sell the facts you presented in the OP.
What did Obama sell? Im different than that Bush guy ya'll don't like. Thats really about it. he had nothing to stand on other than being different.
 
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You think the GOP is dysfunctional? You clearly have the blinders on and have no idea what is about to happen to the Ds in a year. That dysfunctional GOP is about to control both the house and the senate and the White House. Once UE is under 7%, Romney wins his re-election in 2016 and once UE is under 5%, he gets to hand pick his successor. Independents are not voting for a D in a looong time after how bad they have been burned by Obama. You think the GOP is bad now, just wait till Obama doesnt have a job and is going around doing speeches, he is going to further push away the Independents and divide your party even more with all his rhetoric.

Obama is setting back the Ds for well over a decade
 
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milohimself said:
Yeah lg, you're not allowed to have an opinion about anything. Shut up.
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The irony is that I'd guess maybe 60 percent of the GOP rank and file agrees with me, 100 %. They might not articulate it the way I have, lol, but the sentiment is not solely mine.
 
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I think both parties have a problem with independents. For the Dems, Obama's not left enough. For Repubs, Romney's not right enough. And in those primaries, it leaves independents searching for a candidate that doesn't pander to their base. For instance, I don't think most independents side with conservatives on their "protect the border with a giant fence" schtick. And I don't think most independents side with Obama on his class warfare.

IMO, independents were tired of war (and the cost) and social conservatism in 2008, and also McCain/Palin was a very underwhelming ticket. In 2012 they are tired of overregulation and defecits. I think this would be the perfect year for Ron Paul if he wasn't reaching Yoda years and if he could just reel in the idealism a notch. I think a lot of independents have found themselves more on the libertarian side.

I still think Romney would be a shoe-in over Obama based off of his debates, if he didn't have the history of a populist politician.

These are just my opinions of what I think the independents are looking at, and I think after this primary, the election will be closer than this board thinks. With Obama being a slight favorite because the voters will turn against Romney once he's made it out of the primaries.

[And Gingrich is great, but he's been deemed unelectable by the media. And it was written.]
 
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shortly after Obama was elected and the dems had solid majorities in both houses of congress, pundits far and wide declared the GOP was dead. Three years and nearly 4 trillion in new debt later, the dems have lost the house and Obama is unable to run on his record.

The GOP is having it's problems, but let's not pretend that they're up against some invincible juggernaut. Obama is no Clinton.
 
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I agree with the OP. Our field--GOP-- is full of fail this year. It's really stupid too. Guys like Christie, Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan and even Huckabee or Barbour could be walking away with the nomination right now with legit chances to beat Obama. As it is, we are trotting out a flip-flopping robot, a loose cannon has-been and a bunch of mental dwarfs incapable of leading the free world.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I just cannot believe that this inept bunch is the cream of the crop for the GOP.
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Funny, most would say they can't believe Obama was the cream of the crop in the Democratic Party. At least all of the GOP'ers have had some kind of job before.
 
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Obama ran a campaign on 2 vague @ss words "hope" & "change". It's completely pathetic that anyone bought into that BS.
 
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