How, exactly, would the Republicans balance the budget?

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VolsNSkinsFan said:
I would kill for private SS accounts were one could select "investments" (US T Bonds, CDs, Large Cap equities)
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Absolutely. I think most people would be in favor of this, if they understood the plan. Problem is the left would run their " Republicans want to cut your SS off " campaign to the older population.
 
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droski said:
firing employees also works, but the fact is that the federal pay scale not only is competitive, but far more than the private sector. as you point out they've been getting raises while the private sector wages have been flat at best. i'm just trying to level the playing field. it's not as though these peopel will quit.
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I agree. I think they need to do both. Adjust the pay scale and fire workers.
 
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and how about this amazing concept... when you die, your SS account is "yours" and is passed down to your heirs (can only be rolled over to an IRA or their SS account) or given to your favorite charity
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
and how about this amazing concept... when you die, your SS account is "yours" and is passed down to your heirs (can only be rolled over to an IRA or their SS account) or given to your favorite charity
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how about people invest their own money in 401ks rather than having hte gov't run the program? i don't want the govt telling me how much i have to save for retirement and don't think that every market crash wouldn't be followed by the poltiicians wanting to tax the young working class to make up the deficit in the old farts SS accounts. edit: and that completely ignores the fact we can't keep the old peoples social security levels AND fund a private system too.
 
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droski said:
how about people invest their own money in 401ks rather than having hte gov't run the program? i don't want the govt telling me how much i have to save for retirement and don't think that every market crash wouldn't be followed by the poltiicians wanting to tax the young working class to make up the deficit in the old farts SS accounts. edit: and that completely ignores the fact we can't keep the old peoples social security levels AND fund a private system too.
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the government thinks you too dumb to manage your own money
 
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find it interesting that the OP stated that the sole Republican response is whining, when the lone justification for the free money movement is whining in the process of legally stealing it.
 
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droski said:
protecting against the stupid is a democrat mantra. personally i couldn't care less.
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I don't disagree but wonder how it works when those people are still being forced to work at 75yo because they thought their entire paycheck had to be spent before the next one arrived and a large cap funds consists of 59fifty's with the sticker still on

hohenfelsvol said:
And the gov't is better? Don't think so.
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I don't either but in some cases it could be. Sure there are many who have no problems managing money but giving it all to everyone is just not a wise move IMO.

Giving people the option to invest on their own could solve some of that.
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't disagree but wonder how it works when those people are still being forced to work at 75yo because they thought their entire paycheck had to be spent before the next one arrived and a large cap funds consists of 59fifty's with the sticker still on.
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and this is our problem how exactly? social security currently isn't enough money to retire on either. the problem is what happens if the gov't screws up the investment? will they cut the benefits or tax the rest of us to make up the difference? i'd bet the farm on the latter.
 
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As expected, a lot of posts about Obama sucks, the Dems suck, social spending sucks, with a smattering of posts that neither party is serious about cutting spending or balancing the budget.

The original question was, what exactly will the Republicans do to balance the budget? This does not encompass your imaginary
But to qualify this has to actually be something they would do. So far, they have offered nothing. I think if they run on that, they do need to explain.
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lawgator1 said:
As expected, a lot of posts about Obama sucks, the Dems suck, social spending sucks, with a smattering of posts that neither party is serious about cutting spending or balancing the budget.

The original question was, what exactly will the Republicans do to balance the budget? This does not encompass your imaginary
But to qualify this has to actually be something they would do. So far, they have offered nothing. I think if they run on that, they do need to explain.
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you missed it:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/poli...d-republicans-balance-budget.html#post3783110

heres the actual plan:
The Roadmap Plan | A Roadmap for America's Future | The Budget Committee Republicans
 
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lawgator1 said:
As expected, a lot of posts about Obama sucks, the Dems suck, social spending sucks, with a smattering of posts that neither party is serious about cutting spending or balancing the budget.

The original question was, what exactly will the Republicans do to balance the budget? This does not encompass your imaginary
But to qualify this has to actually be something they would do. So far, they have offered nothing. I think if they run on that, they do need to explain.
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RSC Balances the Budget While Obama Doubles Down on Debt | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.
 
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droski said:
and this is our problem how exactly? social security currently isn't enough money to retire on either. the problem is what happens if the gov't screws up the investment? will they cut the benefits or tax the rest of us to make up the difference? i'd bet the farm on the latter.
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I know it shouldn't be but to a small part of the population they will never make enough to get out of the job market.

I'm pretty sure most know I'm not a fan of big gov't but some will need help. But obviously if we concentrated on them the spending would be cut enough where no one would complain. As it is everyone thinks they are owed so we'll never get past it
 
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utvolpj said:
I know it shouldn't be but to a small part of the population they will never make enough to get out of the job market.

I'm pretty sure most know I'm not a fan of big gov't but some will need help. But obviously if we concentrated on them the spending would be cut enough where no one would complain. As it is everyone thinks they are owed so we'll never get past it
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once again this is why i suggest merging it with welfare.
 
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utvolpj said:
I liked that suggestion (but of course it makes too much sense to be implemented)
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no question. that and old people vote and young people don't. i've always found it interesting that democrats are in favor of the poorest people in this country (the young) supplementing the income of the richest people in this country (the retired).
 
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Your question is not possible to answer since none of us will be in power to cut programs or spending. All we can do is offer up our own suggestions.
Personally I agree with droski. And I would add that welfare should be a temporary check. 6 months tops. Then you reapply and go to the back of the line. No increases for more kids. If you are on govt assistance and have more than three kids by more than 2 different people, the government will pay for you to be sterilized, but not more money for you. If you are getting a check from the govt and you wind up in jail, your check stops immediately and you can reapply when you get out and go to the end of the line. Prisons should be privatized and death row inmates should be given 1 year to get their appeal in order and a new court date set or they get the needle. Social Security should be eliminated completely. If you have been paying in, you will get reimbursed with monthly checks until whatever you have paid in has been returned. The IRS should be eliminated and a mandatory 5% flat tax be enacted onto any purchases. If the government can't get it done on what they make, sucks for them. Get better at managing your money. No more bailouts for ANY business. No US citizenship=no govt benefits of any kind. So you came over the border and had your baby? Good for baby, it's a citizen and is able to APPLY for benefits when it reaches the age of 18.
Yes, I know, this is harsh. But drastic times call for drastic actions. This country is going to hell in a hurry and unless drastic measures are taken there won't be a country for our kids and grandkids.
 
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