How John McCain Lost Me

#30
#30
volinbham said:
I feel precisely the same way about Obama on your last comment.

What McCain is being criticized for by you and the author fits Obama to a "T". The difference being McCain actually has actions/deeds that support his words.
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the problem is that there is actual evidence of McCain being who he says he is and Obama is 100% tout.
 
#37
#37
615 Vol said:
It takes faith to know a guy can walk on water.
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it takes even more faith (or something far more cynical) to think that a community organizer from the South Side of Chicago has any idea how to govern a nation of over 300 million people.
 
#38
#38
MG1968 said:
it takes even more faith (or something far more cynical) to think that a community organizer from the South Side of Chicago has any idea how to govern a nation of over 300 million people.
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I think you're underestimating what it takes to fight the "Battle of Bedford Falls".
 
#40
#40
It blows my mind that after all this time TennNC STILL comes in this forum claiming that McCain is supposed to be different when Obama is the one basing an entire campaign strategy off of the idea that he's a new kind of politician. He also refuses to acknowlege the hypocrisy of it. Ah well.
 
#43
#43
TennNC said:
Me thinks you were right.

TPMMuckraker | Talking Points Memo | Noted Bamboozler Behind Latest Obama Smear
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Here's the rebuttal from the original author. (since he is attacked in the article you posted).

FrontPage Magazine
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Sounds as if both sides have points. Here's the real kicker though

The real news I see in the Obama statement is that there may be an encouraging evolution in his position on Iraq: The "rebuttal" shows that the senator no longer shares his party leadership's belief that the United States has lost the war in Iraq.

He now talks of "the prospect of lasting success," perhaps hoping that his own administration would inherit the kudos
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Interesting no?
 
#44
#44
volinbham said:
Here's the rebuttal from the original author. (since he is attacked in the article you posted).



Sounds as if both sides have points. Here's the real kicker though



Interesting no?
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No, it's not interesting.

How are we "winning"? What does "victory" mean? We're fighting something that nobody understands. We have no idea why we're there. Not since we didn't find what we were looking for.

We are doing a better job at not losing more soldiers. But I don't know how this puts us closer to "victory."

Until someone can answer these questions, therefore, the phrase "winning the war" is irrelevant, a misnomer. And it's disrespectful to the soldiers sent over there and the taxpayers funding the mission.
 
#45
#45
MG1968 said:
it takes even more faith (or something far more cynical) to think that a community organizer from the South Side of Chicago has any idea how to govern a nation of over 300 million people.
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are we really going there? we gonna take what they were doing in their 20s as evidence of their qualifications?

a guy who finished 4th from the bottom in his graduating class? a guy who was crashing planes and picking up hotties at bars? a guy who was leaving his disabled wife?

a woman who was attending 4 colleges in 6 years? a beauty queen?

come on.

btw, sounds like you're pretty "with it" when it comes to urban issues. sounds like you have a lot of experience with community organizers.
 
#46
#46
you seem pretty sensitive when Obama's work as a community organizer is brought up. but, since we're now going to disregard anything they did prior to two years ago, Obama's much (over) hyped Harvard education is now meaningless and the only thing he has going for him is 19 months of campaigning for President.

I'm still waiting for you, TennNC, to answer my question regarding how many private sector jobs will be created by Obama's tax increases. If "how many?" proves impossible to determine, try "Will any be created at all?".

I'd also like you (or any other Obama supporter) to tell me how this tax cut for "95% of all Americans" is supposed to work when 40% have no federal income tax liability. Issuing a $1000 check is not a tax cut and you should possess the intellectual honesty to realize that.
 
#47
#47
MG1968 said:
you seem pretty sensitive when Obama's work as a community organizer is brought up. but, since we're now going to disregard anything they did prior to two years ago, Obama's much (over) hyped Harvard education is now meaningless and the only thing he has going for him is 19 months of campaigning for President.

I'm still waiting for you, TennNC, to answer my question regarding how many private sector jobs will be created by Obama's tax increases. If "how many?" proves impossible to determine, try "Will any be created at all?".

I'd also like you (or any other Obama supporter) to tell me how this tax cut for "95% of all Americans" is supposed to work when 40% have no federal income tax liability. Issuing a $1000 check is not a tax cut and you should possess the intellectual honesty to realize that.
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Why is Obama's Harvard education considered over hyped?
 
#50
#50
MG1968 said:
you seem pretty sensitive when Obama's work as a community organizer is brought up. but, since we're now going to disregard anything they did prior to two years ago, Obama's much (over) hyped Harvard education is now meaningless and the only thing he has going for him is 19 months of campaigning for President.

I'm still waiting for you, TennNC, to answer my question regarding how many private sector jobs will be created by Obama's tax increases. If "how many?" proves impossible to determine, try "Will any be created at all?".

I'd also like you (or any other Obama supporter) to tell me how this tax cut for "95% of all Americans" is supposed to work when 40% have no federal income tax liability. Issuing a $1000 check is not a tax cut and you should possess the intellectual honesty to realize that.
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Right, we should be LOWERING TAXES to help pay for the $700B Paulson plan. That makes sense. Well, at least McCain / Palin fought really hard against the Paulson plan -- not. Well, at least McCain might understand what the Paulson plan is, more or less. Admit it, Palin is not capable of understanding basic stuff, like science, so she sure as hell does not understand the Paulson plan, even though she supports it, I guess.

Also, we should be LOWERING TAXES to pay for the Iraq War, which, last I checked is really really cheap. I think it has cost us like a thousand dollars.
 
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