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How long do you have after you're program has a fall off (us after the mid 2000s) do you have to salvage and stay near the top? I think Kiffin could have turned us around and kept us there, and probably even Dooley in his first 2 years, so my answer would be 3 years from drop is what you have before you fall into what we have now, a decade of mediocrity.
 
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eskimovol said:
Dooley would've done exactly what he did.
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add to it that Kiffin would have had us on Probation.

OP is this a statement or a question?

Whatever it is, there is no need to look backward, wiser to look at where we are going versus trying to drive a car by only looking at the rear view mirror.

Patience is a terrible word but it is often used. It's realistic.

If CBJ can't get the results, we will fire him, but because of his efforts we will be in a much better position to hire a newer and better coach in the future.

If he pans out we will not have to do so. We are much better off than we were 4 years ago in the ability to land a better coach.
 
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Depends on whether or not the previous coach was a bad coach and a good recruiter or not good at either one. If you have the horses in the stable it wouldn't take long at all to get back on top.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
How long do you have after you're program has a fall off (us after the mid 2000s) do you have to salvage and stay near the top? I think Kiffin could have turned us around and kept us there, and probably even Dooley in his first 2 years, so my answer would be 3 years from drop is what you have before you fall into what we have now, a decade of mediocrity.
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Wrong forum genius...
 
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Dooley would have been a recordbreaker if Tennessee had given him more time.

Tennessee's record of never losing more than 7 games in a season would have been broken if Dooley had stayed another two yrs.
 
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Kiffin left every program he head coached at in worse position than when he arrived. He is at Florida Atlantic for a reason, well many reasons. He may someday be a good HC at a Power 5 university, but to use him as a reference or example for anything other than negative reasoning is ridiculous.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I see this posted alot, and it may be true, but none of the programs he's coached at for put on probation as a direct result of anything he did.
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I will give you that statement can be true and false in the same breath...USC not the coach but in the mix. It's not like he didn't know and it is questionable as to whether or not he participated.

He is a total jerk with one and only one person in his mind. Himself.

Runs a loose ship and hasn't put together a winning formula yet unless he was riding on someone's coat tail.

Thug coach.

Again looking in the rear view mirror. Really don't care about Kiffin. Spoiled brat...He coach here and we suffered for it with the NCAA least you forget the recruiting issues that surfaced after one period of recruitment.
 
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Depends on what the trajectory of recruiting is upward, downward or flatline. I'm not talking from one year to the next either. You need at least a 4-5 years of recruiting to figure that out...or three straight years of declines.

Then you factor in Coaching up players, game day coaching, ability to stay out of trouble with NCAA, value to boosters, discipline of players, APR scores, transfers, dismissals, etc.

IMO, Boosters and NCAA are the grim reapers for most coaches.
 
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It all depends on the coach. Look at Washington. They've never been on top. But the hire an elite coach and they're in the playoffs. Or even a better example would be Michigan. They've been compared to us a bunch. They went through a couple of mediocre coaches are the same time frame as us. But the they finally got it figured out and we still haven't. They're last go round they threw a tin of money at the biggest name out there and it immediately paid off. As for us, we went the value route and now we're stuck with les miles...minus the gutsy calls
 
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chattavol420 said:
It all depends on the coach. Look at Washington. They've never been on top. But the hire an elite coach and they're in the playoffs. Or even a better example would be Michigan. They've been compared to us a bunch. They went through a couple of mediocre coaches are the same time frame as us. But the they finally got it figured out and we still haven't. They're last go round they threw a tin of money at the biggest name out there and it immediately paid off. As for us, we went the value route and now we're stuck with les miles...minus the gutsy calls
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Not sure your age but I still remember when Washington was elite for a stretch in the early 90s. Even won a National Championship.
 
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