How Much and Where to Play Moore?

[armchair]

I will be very curious to see what Warlick does with Moore once Harrison and Jones return and the Vols start playing better competition. Is she going to put her on the bench and just play her as a sub for Harrison? That's my bet. Is that the best decision? What about playing Moore and Harrison together--with Moore at the 4? The Vols could be very effective with the two of them on the floor, given how mobile and athletic they both are. Moore has got some game. Warlick and the coaches will be challenged to find the best starting five combination and the 8-10 player rotation.

Harrison, Carter and Massengale will start, and I'm sure Warlick will start Graves at the 4--but Graves's offensive game is pretty limited. You could Moore in the 4 position and arguably get more. And who takes the the last (3 position) spot? Jones? Warlick has a lot of options and a lot of flexibility--and I'm sure the coaches will try a lot of combinations to see which work best. My point is that Moore may be showing too much to simply having her playing 8 minutes a night backing up Harrison.

 

[mtsuraider06]

It doesn't matter who starts. The majority of players will be getting 20 minutes per game or more. There will be a lot of subbing to keep the full court pressure going. There will be many combinations out there so lots of chances for playing time.

 

[gule]

They should have played Nia last year, dang their stubborn arses! She would be even better this year if she had. Just because she isn't a monster of rebounding doesn't mean she couldn't have added badly needed points and blocked a few shots on D. Russell should have had her feet fixed last year....

 

[gule]

I should give Coach W. my cell phone # don't ya think? lol

 

[Volfan2012]

I expect Jones will play a lot on the perimeter. Holly likes her out there because of her defense. Team had 14 turnovers last night Burdick had five. I think Carter, Massengale, Harrison, and Moore need to be in there 30 minutes a game. How you use the rest of the minutes is totally up to the coach. I can't see how she wouldn't want those four in there as much as possible.

 

[volfanIND]

I will be very curious to see what Warlick does with Moore once Harrison and Jones return and the Vols start playing better competition. Is she going to put her on the bench and just play her as a sub for Harrison? That's my bet. Is that the best decision? What about playing Moore and Harrison together--with Moore at the 4? The Vols could be very effective with the two of them on the floor, given how mobile and athletic they both are. Moore has got some game. Warlick and the coaches will be challenged to find the best starting five combination and the 8-10 player rotation.

Harrison, Carter and Massengale will start, and I'm sure Warlick will start Graves at the 4--but Graves's offensive game is pretty limited. You could Moore in the 4 position and arguably get more. And who takes the the last (3 position) spot? Jones? Warlick has a lot of options and a lot of flexibility--and I'm sure the coaches will try a lot of combinations to see which work best. My point is that Moore may be showing too much to simply having her playing 8 minutes a night backing up Harrison.

As of right now due to production, it makes the most since to have her be the first post off the bench once Izzy is back 100 percent and starting. I think Nia can do 4 or the 5. Holly wants to run a lot this year, she has stated that a lot, and she has the depth to do that. She has for the first time as the head coach to sub EVERY position at will.

We haven't played a team yet that can run with us 100 percent. I think when we play Texas, 2 things will for sure happen:

1. Texas will keep up with us on pace of the game, Holly will get deer in headlights and loose sight of the game plan, keep the same 5 out there.
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2. Texas will keep up with us on the pace of the game, Holly will see that, and really execute her bench and get everybody breaks, and minutes will be solid across the board like they have been so far (I think freshman might be cut a couple minutes, but will get playing time) Execute game plan of run, up tempo, pressing defense. Have healthy, non-tired players on the floor.

3. Is a guarantee! If this is Izzy's first game back or 2nd, her minutes WILL be down, lets face it, she is coming back from an injury. You don't play her more than 20 mintues at max.

I think Texas will show us a lot about Holly, and what we can expect from her this year. This is our first big test and this is the first time we have legit guard sub, legit wing sub, and a legit post sub. What she does with it will be telling
GLV!

 

[Voluble2]

I don't see much reason to play Jones. There are enough other players with better skills. Rotate Graves, Moore and Harrison at the 4-5. Use Jones or Burdick at the 4 for rebounding if you get in some foul trouble and use your more skilled players for the 1-3 positions.

With the three post rotation you can have Moore and Harrison out there when you want the most offensive firepower and sub Graves for either when you need more rebounding or defense.

 

[stllvf]

How would the thread be different if you agreed that thesole decision on playing time was the ability to play non-switching man-to-man against the player who was your peer, ie 5 vs 5 or 2 vs 2? The LVs tend to lose games when a quality player can't be shut down (Md) or a perimeter player can prevent being beaten on the dribble drive and the posts pick up excessive fouls. (Vandy).

More players were returned to the bench for a defensive weakness in the TN State game than for taking a quick shot.

 

[Pat4life]

Personally, I think Nia will be in the rotation all year or until she is inconsistent, you either play yourself into playing time or play yourself out.

If everyone plays hard and with intensity, only people I see losing time are the Freshmen. I like Ariel coming off the bench, I think she plays better, still haven't seen how she performs in the big games, plus she's a veteran player and can lead the second unit (with Burdick), it gives us an advantage having her going against the second unit of another team after our starters (after they have been pounded, harassed, chased by our starters.)

Nia Moore, to me starts until, she gets inconsistent, Harrison has to earn her starting position back. Nothing is given. It's not about what have for me, it has to be about what have you done for me lately.

I like the challenge Holly, is sending to both Harrison and Jasmine Jones, there should be even more competition for playing time. We should be a good team, coming out of the SEC, we might drop a couple but in a tournament, we should be a tough out.

Our best five defensive players:

1. Draya
2. Reynolds/Jannah
3. Jasmine Jones
4. Beastsharra/Harrison
5. Moore/Harrison

And knowing Holly, she will prolly go with her best defensive team, I can see them all starting, unless they underperform. Defense and rebounding wins championships.

If we play 25-15 strategy, and press for a full 40 minutes, people will get time, we can absorb foul trouble, with really no drop off, I love it. SEC is going to be tough, we're going need those bodies, we're going to beat each other up.

But for the first time in a long time, we can be a very PHYSICAL team, hard screens, draw charges, no layups, attack the ball in the air. We have almost two starters at each position. 40 minutes of intense defense with ball pressure at all five positions, denying...lady vols basketball

Right now we have two of the best 5 (Centers) in the game, (Nia has to play in big time game). Nia stay consistent, stay solid, she keeps playing. She start underperforming on the bench. Be careful what you show us. Lady vols basketball night in and night out, consistency on defense, rebounding, execution of game plan, and minimum turnovers. If not you're on the bench.... Next

 

[Pat4life]

As of right now due to production, it makes the most since to have her be the first post off the bench once Izzy is back 100 percent and starting. I think Nia can do 4 or the 5. Holly wants to run a lot this year, she has stated that a lot, and she has the depth to do that. She has for the first time as the head coach to sub EVERY position at will.

We haven't played a team yet that can run with us 100 percent. I think when we play Texas, 2 things will for sure happen:

1. Texas will keep up with us on pace of the game, Holly will get deer in headlights and loose sight of the game plan, keep the same 5 out there.
-or-
2. Texas will keep up with us on the pace of the game, Holly will see that, and really execute her bench and get everybody breaks, and minutes will be solid across the board like they have been so far (I think freshman might be cut a couple minutes, but will get playing time) Execute game plan of run, up tempo, pressing defense. Have healthy, non-tired players on the floor.

3. Is a guarantee! If this is Izzy's first game back or 2nd, her minutes WILL be down, lets face it, she is coming back from an injury. You don't play her more than 20 mintues at max.

I think Texas will show us a lot about Holly, and what we can expect from her this year. This is our first big test and this is the first time we have legit guard sub, legit wing sub, and a legit post sub. What she does with it will be telling
GLV!

I should have read your post before I posted. Nice post.

 

[Amb3096]

How would the thread be different if you agreed that thesole decision on playing time was the ability to play non-switching man-to-man against the player who was your peer, ie 5 vs 5 or 2 vs 2? The LVs tend to lose games when a quality player can't be shut down (Md) or a perimeter player can prevent being beaten on the dribble drive and the posts pick up excessive fouls. (Vandy).

More players were returned to the bench for a defensive weakness in the TN State game than for taking a quick shot.

Can't overlook offense, though. The problem is that Tennessee does not have proven players who are equally good on offense and defense. You get defensive players like Jones/Carter who are unreliable on offense, and the two main offensive threats (Massengale, Harrison, Graves) are not the best defensively. Reynolds seems to be heading in the same direction as Jones/Carter, and Burdick does not excel at either. So, that leaves the freshmen to show that they are complete players. Nared and Middleton look promising, but they need the chance to gain game time experience. Tennessee is better off investing efforts to improving their contributions than sticking with Burdick if she is not able to consistently show that she is head and shoulders above the players competing with her for playing time.

 

[Pat4life]

You can overlook offense if you defend, cos most good teams are going to take away what you want to do, thats when your athletes take over. Lady Vols last two Championship wasn't won with our superior offense, it was defense and rebounding, won those games.

A player scores 12 but give up 15 to the opposing team's player, -3, that's not how you play the game and certainly not how you coach the game. A person scores 7, but gives up 7, 8 points below the opposing player's average, with a couple of steals, rebounds, and assist. You keep em on the floor.

I can see a few different star players going off on us, it depends on the strategy, sometimes you try to take that player a way mano y mano. But now most team best player we can throw, Draya, Jasmine, Jannah at em

But for a guard, the challenge is harder, if they are an elite player they can score from the rim to 3 point line, so you can play that team to let the star player get hers and shut everyone else down.

Offense sells tickets. Defense and Rebounding wins Championship. You can say what you want about offense, but even Uconn wins with great defense and rebounding, those extra positions, and efficiency matters and make their offense look good. Don't be fooled.

Lady Vols basketball, beat em down and let our athleticism take over.

 

[Sandvol]

There is a way to player every player on the team 16 minutes with Harrison, Moore, and Graves playing twenty four. Burdick should only play about 16 minutes and play at the 3/4. Everyone on the team deserves a fair amount of playing time because there really is no drop off when any of the freshmen come into the game. And, they have all played well and contribute uniquely and positively in their own way. This time allotment you all have probably seen also includes Tucker. This time allocation would also keep everyone fresh and allow them to press the whole game.

 

[Pat4life]

Another great things, to think about...

Harrison is a senior. Nia is a Junior. Russell Redshirt Soph.

We have the potential to have 3 top five centers in the game over the next four years with Mercedes having two years to get to an All American level, the same as SCarolina.

Love it. Love it. Love it.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Moore's playing time for future games should not be determined until the coaches see how she plays against Texas.

Putting up good stats against pitiful basketball teams tells no one anything about a player's ability.

 

[BMvol27]

Moore's playing time for future games should not be determined until the coaches see how she plays against Texas.

Putting up good stats against pitiful basketball teams tells no one anything about a player's ability.

She's put up better stats than anyone else against the same teams.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

I did not say she isn't playing well against bad teams. I only said let's see how well she plays against teams with real basketball players.

 

[SGMVols]

Nia Moore is the Josh Dobbs of the Lady Vols. I cannot comprehend her practically never seeing the court until this year.

 

[armchair]

Nia Moore is the Josh Dobbs of the Lady Vols. I cannot comprehend her practically never seeing the court until this year.

She's a better player than Russell--and yet Russell played quite a bit last year and Moore barely saw the floor. I had never seen her play a second until this year. Moore has got more offensive talent that just about anybody we've got. I think in our big games we may want to have both her and Harrison in the game at the same time. We know Warlick will rotate players a lot--but in big games it will be about matchups and having the right players in the game at the right time.

 

[Sandvol]

Moore's playing time for future games should not be determined until the coaches see how she plays against Texas.

Putting up good stats against pitiful basketball teams tells no one anything about a player's ability.

That center for Winthrop was outstanding. She will play in the "WNBA. Moore did very well against her.

 

[Smallvol#1]

That center for Winthrop was outstanding. She will play in the "WNBA. Moore did very well against her.

Was that the tall built like a concrete block girl? I didn't remember which team she played on, but yes she was good. I couldn't believe she could move a body that big around as well as she did. Got a little tired at the end, but was still very effective. I though Nia did well too. Kept expecting her to just get pushed aside, but she held her own.

 

[gule]

Please temper the Nia love until she has played against a better opponent than what she has to date. I love her to death but until she proves she can play against the upper level teams, lets don't be building statues for her just yet....

 

[Volfan2012]

I think Moore settles in at 25 minutes depending on foul trouble. I expect Graves to get this amount and Harrison around the same.

 

[Volfan2012]

I guess the answer is 11 minutes Holly is not going to cut into Graves minutes and when Harrison comes back Nia Moore will be a token player once again. It is totally beyond belief that she got only 11 minutes last night.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

I am tired of watching games on my computer so I did not watch this game.

Did Moore pick up quick fouls which required her to sit, or was she getting manhandled by the Mocs center?