How the left "supports" the troops

#26
#26
I don't see why it is necessary to group them all under this "left" umbrella. I am on the "left" and I don't do stupid stuff like this, so to make that all encompassing statement is obviously not right. Why can't we just all agree that there are people on the right, people on the left, people in the middle, and people that are completely crazy. This article is about the last group.
 
#27
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U-T said:
Outside of Muslims in this country who are radicals, I doubt anybody is rooting for the terrorists (though in this country, I could be wrong with some of the characters within our borders)

That is just a general way of the right-wing telling the left-wing to fall on their side or else you are part of the enemy since you don't share their views.
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no one living here in the right mind would want to see the terrorists win, regardless of political affiliation. I agree with you.
 
#33
#33
I love how you dig up something on a guy from over 50 years ago as being the way he is now. Strom Thurmond rings a bell. So does David Duke.
 
#35
#35
But you make it sound like he's still a card carrying member of the Klan. Should we judge everyone by things they did 50 years ago? How about 20? Or we can go even more recently and say the GOP has criminal Congressmen - Ney, DeLay, Cunningham, etc. Or pedophiles - Foley. Etc.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
But you make it sound like he's still a card carrying member of the Klan. Should we judge everyone by things they did 50 years ago? How about 20? Or we can go even more recently and say the GOP has criminal Congressmen - Ney, DeLay, Cunningham, etc. Or pedophiles - Foley. Etc.
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All i was doing was just pointing out to the person that said the right has the KKK, must not know about the left and the KKK. Just trying to be fair. Thats all. :hi:
 
#37
#37
there's also a double standard. When Byrd's time in the KKK is mentioned, the left deflects it by saying "well, he's grown". The left didn't give Strom Thurmond the benefit of that same doubt as evidenced by their reaction to Trent Lott's comments.

It's a popular rhetorical tool of the left to bring up an opponent's past then attempt to hide from their own.
 
#38
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MG1968 said:
there's also a double standard. When Byrd's time in the KKK is mentioned, the left deflects it by saying "well, he's grown". The left didn't give Strom Thurmond the benefit of that same doubt as evidenced by their reaction to Trent Lott's comments.

It's a popular rhetorical tool of the left to bring up an opponent's past then attempt to hide from their own.
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Yeah, and the right has too much class to do anything like that. Surely you aren't drinking that much of their kool-aid. Both parties will do whatever they have to do to win. They are both guilty of the same stuff.
 
#39
#39
I don't consider myself a koolaid drinker, I just remember how important it was for the left to expose the truth about W.'s service during Vietnam (remember Dan Rather?) while being all to willing to accept Kerry's recollection of what he did in Vietnam.
 
#40
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MG1968 said:
I don't consider myself a koolaid drinker, I just remember how important it was for the left to expose the truth about W.'s service during Vietnam (remember Dan Rather?) while being all to willing to accept Kerry's recollection of what he did in Vietnam.
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Seeing as W. served Vietnam protecting Texas (part of the time) and Kerry got "swift boated" by T. Boone Pickens (an oilman from Texas of all people) I could see how that is fair. Kerry actually made the trip to Vietnam which is more than Bush can claim and he took 11 months off to work on a campaign in Alabama. I didn't know the National Guard ran those type of missions. Honestly, I don't care because Kerry and Bush are birds of the same feather to me. My point is that both sides have mastered all the tricks in the book to get an advantage and no party is morally superior to the other.
 
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MG1968 said:
there's also a double standard. When Byrd's time in the KKK is mentioned, the left deflects it by saying "well, he's grown". The left didn't give Strom Thurmond the benefit of that same doubt as evidenced by their reaction to Trent Lott's comments.

It's a popular rhetorical tool of the left to bring up an opponent's past then attempt to hide from their own.
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Obviously you missed what Lott actually said. At the time both were discussed Lott had just made some remarks that completely agreed with Strom's positions he made as a Dixiecrat. This wasn't something 50 years ago but something Lott recently stated as complete support for Strom's position back then.

Had Ted Kennedy come out and praised Byrd's positions back then you'd have an argument. But since that did not happen, you don't.
 
#42
#42
The fabricated attack on Bush and his record was quite bad.

The attack on Kerry still stands to me as one of the lowest, scumbag moves I have ever seen in politics.

And I did NOT vote for Kerry nor would I have voted for him because I disagreed with him too harshly on certain issues.

What people will do in this country to get in the media and/or to slam another has taken on a new low that just alienates more and more people from ever wanting to get involved.

I am preparing myself for a miserable 2008 where all sorts of made-up stories will be put out into the media about all of the Presidential candidates

The left-wing will do its best to come up with and plant a good amount of negatives bias news stories and the right-wing will do its best to completely and utterly exaggerate something in someone's past.

Welcome to Politics in the Year 2008.
 
#43
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MG1968 said:
there's also a double standard. When Byrd's time in the KKK is mentioned, the left deflects it by saying "well, he's grown". The left didn't give Strom Thurmond the benefit of that same doubt as evidenced by their reaction to Trent Lott's comments.

It's a popular rhetorical tool of the left to bring up an opponent's past then attempt to hide from their own.
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Exactly.

I said the right have the KKK because this retarted thread insinuated that these people who are anti-troops are automatically left wingers.
 
#44
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The Dude said:
Exactly.

I said the right have the KKK because this retarted thread insinuated that these people who are anti-troops are automatically left wingers.
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I also wasn't insinuating anything, I was declaring it. You're free to disagree with me, but I don't know of a single person who would vote for the same candidate I would that's anti-troop. There are plenty on my side who are anti-war, or at least not keen on the current one who would never deny troops their equipment, whether it's being delivered to Iraq or being brought back to the US.

I also don't know (wouldn't want to know either) anyone that would involve their children in the blockading of trucks carrying pretty massive loads. You are free to protest as you see fit, but don't involve your children.
 
#50
#50
Its equally as logical as grouping the entire left into your story. And you may want to learn rules of capitalization, there Mr Spelling Bee.
 
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