How The Left Views Black America

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If you’ve never read Cannibals All, it’s worth the time. It mocks capitalism (dog eat dog, thus cannibalism) and argues black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore slavery is the better alternative because the slave masters will provide food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, etc. Things that free labor does not require.

Replace slavery with communism/socialism and the arguments seem to be the same.


I’d be curious if anyone believes this doesn’t align with left wing thought

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/35481
 
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If you’ve never read Cannibals All, it’s worth the time. It mocks capitalism (dog eat dog, thus cannibalism) and argues black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore slavery is the better alternative because the slave masters will provide food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, etc. Things that free labor does not require.

Replace slavery with communism/socialism and the arguments seem to be the same.


I’d be curious if anyone believes this doesn’t align with left wing thought

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/35481

The left speaks a good game about ending racism but if you simply look at their longstanding history they need to keep the minority citizens down.

How long have Schumer, Pelosi, Biden. Waters, etc. been in Washington? Who is perpetuating racism? It's not Trump.
 
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If you’ve never read Cannibals All, it’s worth the time. It mocks capitalism (dog eat dog, thus cannibalism) and argues black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore slavery is the better alternative because the slave masters will provide food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, etc. Things that free labor does not require.

Replace slavery with communism/socialism and the arguments seem to be the same.


I’d be curious if anyone believes this doesn’t align with left wing thought

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/35481

Drivel. It does not align with left-wing thought, stop being a freaking moron.
I can't believe you posted that absurd nonsense.
 
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So you just want to pretend I’m wrong without any investigation? I will say I don’t believe everyone on the left thinks this way, but I do believe it’s part of the underlying foundational belief.

Do you not agree that both slave owners and Marxist believe black people are incapable of competeing in a free market?
 
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The left claim to be fighting against racism all the while promoting it. Everything is racist to them. From confederate statues to freaking pancake syrup and butter! As we speak, I read they’re in the process of taking down the confederate statues in Virginia to FURTHER coddle to them. This nations history does not belong to anyone to erase, agree or disagree with. It’s there to learn from, accept and grow on. Before it’s all over with, I wonder if the left will successfully convince the government to remove the Statue of Liberty. Because I can only imagine how racist it is to have a white woman holding a torch up high.


Man ....... we need Trump or someone likeminded back in a bad way so someone (who will obviously be racist) will have a big enough voice to say “enough is enough”.
 
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So you just want to pretend I’m wrong without any investigation? I will say I don’t believe everyone on the left thinks this way, but I do believe it’s part of the underlying foundational belief.

Do you not agree that both slave owners and Marxist believe black people are incapable of competeing in a free market?

I don't know any slave owners or Marxists but I'll be sure to ask if I ever meet one.
 
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Someone explained this well once in terms of theologians, pastors, and the congregation.

The entire congregation doesn’t believe black people are incapable. There’s plenty of good hearted people on the left who don’t understand the root philosophy.

I’m speaking more to the views of the theologians and pastors
 
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I don't know any slave owners or Marxists but I'll be sure to ask if I ever meet one.

Pete Buttigieg’s father is one. So is the founder of BLM. But if you read my reply above this about theologians vs the congregation you may have a better understanding of what I’m saying
 
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Pete Buttigieg’s father is one. So is the founder of BLM. But if you read my reply above this about theologians vs the congregation you may have a better understanding of what I’m saying

Oh, I understand exactly what you are saying and it's a complete crock.
 
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Oh, I understand exactly what you are saying and it's a complete crock.

What is a complete crock? Are you claiming those people aren’t Marxist? That Marxist thought isn’t prominent on the left? That it’s not similar to the thought of slave owners?

What is a complete crock?
 
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Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting change.- Rules of life 101
Who's to blame? The politician who stays employed or the voter who votes.
 
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What is a complete crock? Are you claiming those people aren’t Marxist? That Marxist thought isn’t prominent on the left? That it’s not similar to the thought of slave owners?

What is a complete crock?

Your entire premise is a crock. Look at your title for this thread "How the Left views Black America", then you start saying that some obscure book states that "black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore slavery is the better alternative". Then you just start replacing words so now you are saying that "black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore socialism/communism is the better alternative" all the while implying that this is how the Left views Black America. Literally, everything you posted is a complete crock. Seek help fast, you swallowed the stupid stick whole.
 
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Your entire premise is a crock. Look at your title for this thread "How the Left views Black America", then you start saying that some obscure book states that "black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore slavery is the better alternative". Then you just start replacing words so now you are saying that "black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore socialism/communism is the better alternative" all the while implying that this is how the Left views Black America. Literally, everything you posted is a complete crock. Seek help fast, you swallowed the stupid stick whole.

It wasn’t an obscure book. It’s consider one of the most influential of the pro slavery arguments of its time. It’s not random, it’s one taught in a lot of American history courses because it captures the pro slavery argument and the view of the slave owners.

Is there a segment of left wing (Marxist, socialist, communist, whatever term they prefer) America who believes what I’m stating? I can site examples of that if you need. But yes, it’s a fairly widespread view that capitalism disadvantages minorities
 
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It wasn’t an obscure book. It’s consider one of the most influential of the pro slavery arguments of its time. It’s not random, it’s one taught in a lot of American history courses because it captures the pro slavery argument and the view of the slave owners.

Is there a segment of left wing (Marxist, socialist, communist, whatever term they prefer) America who believes what I’m stating? I can site examples of that if you need. But yes, it’s a fairly widespread view that capitalism disadvantages minorities
Give the examples...he obviously needs more info
 
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If you’ve never read Cannibals All, it’s worth the time. It mocks capitalism (dog eat dog, thus cannibalism) and argues black men are incapable of competing in a free market and therefore slavery is the better alternative because the slave masters will provide food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, etc. Things that free labor does not require.

Replace slavery with communism/socialism and the arguments seem to be the same.


I’d be curious if anyone believes this doesn’t align with left wing thought

Cannibals all! or, Slaves without masters by George Fitzhugh
It does, black people just don't realize that socialism = slavery without chains.
 
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Give the examples...he obviously needs more info

I'd start with the current president who has openly stated that "poor kids are just as smart as white kids" and that blacks don't know how to get on the internet. He also stated the Hispanic community, unlike the black community, (yeah he really said this) has a lot of diverse opinions on issues. So to recap he thinks they're poor, dumb, and incapable. I'm going to post several links to other things and I assume these are all well known quotes but if anyone disagrees or wants to see proof of those, just let me know.

I start there with the president to begin establishing the extent to which, not just academics, but the mainstream left views blacks as incapable. I'll then end with bringing it back to the underlying racial views of Marx, Engle, and others.

This article mentions a current left wing thought leader Ibram X Kendi and his views on racism and capitalism. "Racial and economic justice movements have exposed exploitative and extractive practices within capitalism, making it less secure to accumulate wealth through those means."---you can only view blacks as exploited if you believe they are less capable of competing.
Capitalism and Racism: Conjoined Twins

The NYU department chair for social and cultural analysis agrees. I add her quote specifically because it states capitalism still depends on a racial hierarchy. So she still sees black people as only capable today of being exploited. It's a communist/marxist view that sees employment as exploitation and business owners as oppressors. It clearly sounds like she doesn't believe blacks to be capable of anything other than being exploited workers, even calling them "working people" -“The economic system still depends on a profound racial hierarchy,” explains historian Jennifer L. Morgan, chair of NYU’s Department of Social and Cultural Analysis. “It still depends on the degradation of Black labor and still depends on and develops tools to segregate and disenfranchise Black people and other working people.”-
https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publ...sm--that-commodified-women-s-bodies-haun.html

It goes beyond just academia. It's infected corporate America too. Here American Express is telling their workers capitalism is racist
American Express tells its workers capitalism is racist

BLM this week called for a boycott and the end of "white supremacy capitalism". Black Lives Matter calls for month-long boycott of 'white companies' to support 'BlackXmas' | Daily Mail Online

Over 130 colleges/universities in California alone no longer require ACT/SAT scores for admission. Why? Because black kids score lower. So they've decided the only way to make things fair is to get rid of the ACT/SAT. Another example of the left believing blacks cannot compete. This example isn't strictly economic, but their views of black inferiority are not limited to economics. They would also claim that our educational system is an institute that upholds capitalism (this is one of the aspects of culture along with the family that BLM wants to destroy that Grimnsci wrote about that upholds capitalism).
More California colleges remove SAT, ACT requirements during application process

So these views that black people cannot be successful under capitalism are common place on the left. I can provide additional examples if you wish or clarify why I included any of the ones above. I'm going to do a second post on this later (may be tomorrow before I get to it) connecting this thought with Marx, Engle, and the Frankfort School.
 

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