How The Left Views Black America

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Have you ever considered that you still view the world through the lens of the 60's?

Said people literally trying to dredge up the worst parts of the 60's to divide Americans....Racism would be dead if the left would just LET IT. But they won't because division is their only play, because no sane rational person would back their broken economic ideas.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

You're right.1960's Dems were ultra conservative in the South. Just stating the events of the time. I was commenting on LBJ and his policies.

Characterizing my post as outrage is both silly and ignorant. I witnessed those times first hand and comment on it. You're the only one who is outraged. In fact, your posts are outraged all the time. It's well documented

Negative there is nothing "conservastive" about racism. 1960's dems were racist. It was the Republican party that started the civil rights movement. Racism has always been a corner stone of the progressives. They are the same people who brought us eugenics and the worst racism the world ever saw during ww2, where they advocated genocide. Hitler's National Socialism literally got it's ideas on race theory from American Eugenics Democrats. To this day they advocate using abortion as a means of population control, and you don't seem to be bothered by which demographics abortion has targeted from the beginning, or that planned parenthood was founded by racists, and is still back by them. The slaughter of minorities in particular every year dwarves the numbers of the people who died in ww2.

Conservatism promotes traditional Judeao Christian values that teach we are all brothers and sisters in Christ, regardless of the color of our skin. Conservatives beleive in the inherent value of the individual, and individual rights. Conservatives beleive you have the right to protect yourself. Conservatives beleive in preventing tyrant states from abuse of it's citizens. Conservatives brought you abolishinism and an end to slavery......
Democrats and Republicans were both more conservative once upon a time because they understood the threat of International Marxism and it's war on western civilization. Todays parties have been so infested by forign intelligence groups, and world marxism as to be shadows of their former selves.

I think you may still be living in those 60's you saw. if you can't see that the Democrats and Republicans then have nothing to do with what is currently going on tofday. Both parties have sold out to forign interest, shipping jobs over seas, and the destruction of the American family. Democrats are running towards the destruction of America as a party and are basiocally just Marxists at this point. Most RINO's are just skipping towards the destruction, while padding their bank accounts with CCP money, because the non MAGA GOP are sell outs.

Am I outraged? your damn right I am, this country is being destroyed, and regardless of color all kids are having their birthright stolen from them by short sighted people who can't be Americans first and foremost, and put the country first. Our kids will never know our economic success, and our grandchildren will e3ither be third world improvrished....or maybe dead if the depopulation technocrats get their way.

 

[EasternVol]

It's just as well known by most that LBJ was racist, and created welfare state to destroy the black family and secure their vote. Love how you rushed to post that response unrelated to video without watching it though. Just watch the film....don't be afraid to learn a different view.

How did the Civil Rights Act of 1964 lead to a welfare state again?

 

[EasternVol]

Negative there is nothing "conservastive" about racism. 1960's dems were racist. It was the Republican party that started the civil rights movement. Racism has always been a corner stone of the progressives. They are the same people who brought us eugenics and the worst racism the world ever saw during ww2, where they advocated genocide. Hitler's National Socialism literally got it's ideas on race theory from American Eugenics Democrats. To this day they advocate using abortion as a means of population control, and you don't seem to be bothered by which demographics abortion has targeted from the beginning, or that planned parenthood was founded by racists, and is still back by them. The slaughter of minorities in particular every year dwarves the numbers of the people who died in ww2.

Conservatism promotes traditional Judeao Christian values that teach we are all brothers and sisters in Christ, regardless of the color of our skin. Conservatives beleive in the inherent value of the individual, and individual rights. Conservatives beleive you have the right to protect yourself. Conservatives beleive in preventing tyrant states from abuse of it's citizens. Conservatives brought you abolishinism and an end to slavery......
Democrats and Republicans were both more conservative once upon a time because they understood the threat of International Marxism and it's war on western civilization. Todays parties have been so infested by forign intelligence groups, and world marxism as to be shadows of their former selves.

I think you may still be living in those 60's you saw. if you can't see that the Democrats and Republicans then have nothing to do with what is currently going on tofday. Both parties have sold out to forign interest, shipping jobs over seas, and the destruction of the American family. Democrats are running towards the destruction of America as a party and are basiocally just Marxists at this point. Most RINO's are just skipping towards the destruction, while padding their bank accounts with CCP money, because the non MAGA GOP are sell outs.

Am I outraged? your damn right I am, this country is being destroyed, and regardless of color all kids are having their birthright stolen from them by short sighted people who can't be Americans first and foremost, and put the country first. Our kids will never know our economic success, and our grandchildren will e3ither be third world improvrished....or maybe dead if the depopulation technocrats get their way.

That reads like you were making it up as you went along.
Socially conservative people are and have been more racist than social liberals, full stop.
Trying to tie liberals to Nazis is ridiculous. Nazis are Fascists and Fascism is an extreme conservative philosophy.
Don't forget the migration of racist Souhern Democrats to the Republican party in the 70's. Strom Thurmond didn't change his politics when he changed parties.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Socially conservative people are and have been more racist than social liberals, full stop.

I notice you made sure to say "Socially conservative"
A great majority of conservatives, are economic conservatives, and perhaps religious conservatives, but they wereliterally the ones that fought for civil rights.
Meanwhile the Democrats were pushing Jim Crow....

The Democrats have always viewed minorities as a resource to exploit, They only changed on that to win elections, they never did stop pushing money to abortion/eugenics/planned parenthood. They still don't. The GOP has always defended individual rights, and protecting the family unit. You been brainwashed to believe the boogie man is teh people who want to be left alone, and protect their families, meanwhile your heroes are the same people killing millions via abortion, and making sure those clinics are targeting minority populations.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

 

[EasternVol]

I notice you made sure to say "Socially conservative"
A great majority of conservatives, are economic conservatives, and perhaps religious conservatives, but they wereliterally the ones that fought for civil rights.
Meanwhile the Democrats were pushing Jim Crow....

The Democrats have always viewed minorities as a resource to exploit, They only changed on that to win elections, they never did stop pushing money to abortion/eugenics/planned parenthood. They still don't. The GOP has always defended individual rights, and protecting the family unit. You been brainwashed to believe the boogie man is teh people who want to be left alone, and protect their families, meanwhile your heroes are the same people killing millions via abortion, and making sure those clinics are targeting minority populations.

With that fantastic (in the sense of fantasy) rhetoric it's clear that you're either brainwashed or lying to yourself. Saying that any party in the US 'has always defended individual rights' is so wrong it's just asinine.

 

[LouderVol]

That reads like you were making it up as you went along.
Socially conservative people are and have been more racist than social liberals, full stop.
Trying to tie liberals to Nazis is ridiculous. Nazis are Fascists and Fascism is an extreme conservative philosophy.
Don't forget the migration of racist Souhern Democrats to the Republican party in the 70's. Strom Thurmond didn't change his politics when he changed parties.

no it isn't. that is just a lazy argument, they are socialists. its litterally what Nazi meant, National Socialist. they are only "far right" of the communists.

the fascists took away guns, nationalized key industries, denied individual rights even to desirable population, was extremely BIG government, socialized health care, education, and even breeding programs. typically relied on redistribution of wealth from the undesirables to give to their desirables. created a pseudo religion out of the worship of the government or governmental figures. they certainly don't have an isolationist/non interventionalist foreign policy. dictated what the market provided and what citizens could/should buy or have. created an extremely stratified hierarchical system built on cronyism rather than any type of merit.

the only "right" leaning aspect was the nationalism over globalism, but even that was coated in extremely left style of governments seeking total control of the nation.

a true far right ideology places the individual above everything else. the nazis and other fascists certainly didn't do that.

 

[EasternVol]

no it isn't. that is just a lazy argument, they are socialists. its litterally what Nazi meant, National Socialist. they are only "far right" of the communists.

the fascists took away guns, nationalized key industries, denied individual rights even to desirable population, was extremely BIG government, socialized health care, education, and even breeding programs. typically relied on redistribution of wealth from the undesirables to give to their desirables. created a pseudo religion out of the worship of the government or governmental figures. they certainly don't have an isolationist/non interventionalist foreign policy. dictated what the market provided and what citizens could/should buy or have. created an extremely stratified hierarchical system built on cronyism rather than any type of merit.

the only "right" leaning aspect was the nationalism over globalism, but even that was coated in extremely left style of governments seeking total control of the nation.

a true far right ideology places the individual above everything else. the nazis and other fascists certainly didn't do that.

Try Googling 'nazi fascist far right' and see what comes up. Nazis were as far right as there's been.

 

[NashVol11]

(Could also Google “were the Nazis socialist” and find about 15 articles in a row saying ABSOLUTELY NOT)

Were the Nazis Socialists?

What’s the difference between National Socialists and every other kind of socialist?

www.britannica.com

 

[LouderVol]

(Could also Google “were the Nazis socialist” and find about 15 articles in a row saying ABSOLUTELY NOT)

Were the Nazis Socialists?

What’s the difference between National Socialists and every other kind of socialist?

www.britannica.com

not one single thing in that article refuted I a single thing I posted.

the article boils down to: because Nazi locked up the communists and banned other parties, they are far right.

even though that act would never be called a conservative or right leaning action.

the communists in Russia did the same thing. are they far right too?

 

[LouderVol]

Try Googling 'nazi fascist far right' and see what comes up. Nazis were as far right as there's been.

if its so simple, surely you can provide some type of breakdown like I did.

maybe actually refute the points I made talking about the ACTUAL policies. maybe try to argue about how most of what the Nazis did represented some right leaning ideology.

as I said, it is an INCREDIBLY lazy, and false, argument to claim the Nazis were actually a group that PRACTICED right side politics.

Nazis/fascism is directly adjacent to communism.

 

[hog88]

Try Googling 'nazi fascist far right' and see what comes up. Nazis were as far right as there's been.

Yes, they were so far right they were 1 degree away from the communist.

 

[LouderVol]

Yes, they were so far right they were 1 degree away from the communist.

"if they were so close to the communists, why did they fight them?"

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

How did the Civil Rights Act of 1964 lead to a welfare state again?

It didn't. Look up LBJ's so called war on poverty...

 

[hog88]

"if they were so close to the communists, why did they fight them?"

Why do Sunnis fight Shites? Why do Protestants fight Catholics? Why did the Apache fight the Comanche?

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Trying to tie liberals to Nazis is ridiculous. Nazis are Fascists and Fascism is an extreme conservative philosophy.

No Fascism is a form of collectivism. National Socialism, and International Socialism share 90% of their views on government and the police state. Their only real differece is a so called difference in geopolitics. That difference is in theory only, as the Soviets were in fact extremely nationalistic, and teh internationalism was only so much lip service. Both historically based their economies on marxist ideals. You have been lied to on what Fascism was. This is also easily proved by anyone willing to do even cursory reading of source material on the true history of the national socialist party in Germany. As opposed to propoganda text books.

The actual history......Hitler was a big time leftie, and Lefties have been trying to rewrite history ever since to blame others.

HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST

jonjayray.tripod.com

As for tying this admin to Nazis...yes Insane right?

How about opening your F***ing eyes. This is who your party is sending billions to.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Why do Sunnis fight Shites? Why do Protestants fight Catholics? Why did the Apache fight the Comanche?

LouderVol kinda also misses the point that Stalin and Hitler were allies first and invaded Poland together.....they just disagreed on whose "new world order" would be in charge at the end.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

"There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will."

Gee who is this quoting?

 

[LouderVol]

LouderVol kinda also misses the point that Stalin and Hitler were allies first and invaded Poland together.....they just disagreed on whose "new world order" would be in charge at the end.

that was purely of convenience and nothing pure.

both had plans to backstab the other, and was just using the other in the meantime.

 

[EasternVol]

Yes, they were so far right they were 1 degree away from the communist.

Not even close. Krupp, Siemens, IG Farben, etc. were tight with the Nazis and made a ton of money with them in power. Compare that with how many private conglomerates there were in the USSR.

 

[hog88]

Not even close. Krupp, Siemens, IG Farben, etc. were tight with the Nazis and made a ton of money with them in power. Compare that with how many private conglomerates there were in the USSR.

Congrats, you just identified the 1 major difference. As I said 1 degree.

 

[EasternVol]

if its so simple, surely you can provide some type of breakdown like I did.

maybe actually refute the points I made talking about the ACTUAL policies. maybe try to argue about how most of what the Nazis did represented some right leaning ideology.

as I said, it is an INCREDIBLY lazy, and false, argument to claim the Nazis were actually a group that PRACTICED right side politics.

Nazis/fascism is directly adjacent to communism.

Consider your points refuted. In socialism and communism (the left) the state controls the means of production. You'd have noticed a distinct lack of private enterprise in the USSR if you'd ever visited it. The Nazis and their ilk didn't nationalize their means of production and private enterprise thrived under them. The Fascists didn't go for that 'dictatorship of the proletariat' song and dance and associated theories of government since those are leftist and they were rightists.

 

[EasternVol]

Congrats, you just identified the 1 major difference. As I said 1 degree.

It's a big difference that one.

 

[hog88]

It's a big difference that one.

It's about the only difference between the two and in reality the state did control private industry during the NAZI reign, they just made the "owners" wealthy. The similarities are that the communist did the same in making the "owners" wealthy, the owners being the party chieftains.