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You guys make the call on the top 10, at the END of the season. Pick your suprises, busts, and living up to the hype here.


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Top 10:
1. USC 13 - 0 Pac-10 Champs, National Champs
2. Tennessee 12 - 1 SEC Champs
3. Louisville 12 - 0 Big East Champs
4. Iowa 11 - 1 Big Ten Co-Champs
5. Ohio State 10 - 2 Big Ten Co-Champs
6. Miami 11 - 2 ACC Champs
7. California - 11 - 1
8. Texas 10 - 2 Big XII Champs
9. UTEP 13 - 0 C-USA Champs
10. LSU - 10 - 3

In mid-major land, UTEP adds their name to the list of big players of the little conferences by going 13 - 0, Boise State pulls off the upset against Georgia but goes 2 and 2 in the final 4 games with losses to Fresno State and a Bowl loss dropping them from the top 10. Frsno State continues their status as giant killer by scaring the crap out of USC and beating a ranked BCS team in their bowl game. Again.

Conferences, east to west:

Louisville manhandles the Big East but does not get a BCS invite because the Voters realize how crappy the Big East really is.

Miami drops a regular season game, but still manages to win the ACC. They get invited to the Sugar Bowl and get spanked by Tennessee. B)

Tennessee drops a game to LSU but still makes it to Atlanta via the tie-breaker over Florida to exact revenge on the Tigers, and issues Miami an certified beatdown in New Orleans.

Iowa and Ohio State each lose 1 conference game and are declared Co-Champs of the Big Ten, all the while laughing at Michigan because... I hate Michigan. Ohio State gets invited to Pasadena but gets beat by USC, while Iowa beats Texas in another BCS game.

Texas finally beats Oklahoma and wins the Big XII South despite overlooking Texas A&M late in the season, handles whatever crappy team wins the Big XII North, gets beat by Iowa.

USC's dominance continues in Pac-10 land, they go 13 - 0 and snag the Pac-10 title. Although there are close calls agains Oregon, California and Fresno State. It ain't no thang. ThreePete Carroll takes that crystal football home.

This stuff is all retarded, but it was fun to conjure up. It's how I see the season going, but they are just ridiculous predictions, part brains, part homer picks.
 
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I think UT wins the East with a 10-1 record beating out UGA who goes 9-2 with a loss to us.

LSU wins the West with a 9-2 record and losses to us again.

We make it to the Sugar Bowl and beat Miami
 
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I "know" I can not be a thorough as Milo, so I will not even try. I had to disagree about USC (the real one, not the SEC wannabe) and that "conference out on the pacific", but it is theirs to win or lose. The only thing I could see is that after Tennessee hands the smackdown to Miami, ESPN gets taken to court as a monopoly and is broken up into baby ESPNs, and a mystery no-name reporter is vaulted to the center of national attention after he sneaks a picture of Urban Meyer doing something other than pointing and staring.

OKOK maybe I disagree a little on Louisville a little too, as well as the Big Ten,, but that is for another time. I will wait till the end of the season so I can say I told you so, otherwise I will forget I even brought it up and hope everyone else does the same.
 
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Well, I take it back about Louisville not getting into the BCS... Although I think the 20 best teams in the country could go undefeated with the schedule they've got, the fact that Utah made it to the Fiesta Bowl means that Louisville is almost guaranteed a BCS bid if they run the table all season. Even if it is just the Big Least.
 
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If Brooks looses that first game he is done

so i just dont know about louisville winning out.

im going out on a limb here! but louisville drops game one in a close one.
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Aug 15, 2005 2:18 AM
Top 10:
1. USC 13 - 0 Pac-10 Champs, National Champs
2. Tennessee 12 - 1 SEC Champs
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UT losing just one game? I have you marked down for at least three, but if it makes you feel better I don't have you losing to Florida by too much. Maybe just 10-12 points.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Aug 16, 2005 12:26 PM
UT losing just one game? I have you marked down for at least three
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Interesting. I have you down for 5, each of the last 3 years. . . .and a bunghole for a town AND stadium to boot.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Aug 16, 2005 12:26 PM
UT losing just one game? I have you marked down for at least three, but if it makes you feel better I don't have you losing to Florida by too much.  Maybe just 10-12 points.
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I think there would be more outrage about your prediction, but my guess is that most everyone stopped taking you seriously a week ago.
 
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Originally posted by SoCalVol@Aug 16, 2005 1:45 PM
I think there would be more outrage about your prediction, but my guess is that most everyone stopped taking you seriously a week ago.
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Yes, there was the guy two posts back who resorted to calling UF and Gainesville... what was it? ... ah, yes, a bunghole.

This is excellent football analysis. Would like to see more discussion on here about football, less about name calling. But that's just me. I expected a lot more out of the UT fans.

FYI, the games I'd have you losing are to Florida (a ranked team, away), at Alabama (same) and then to either Georgia or LSU.

If UT survives that schedule with just one loss, I will be the first to applaud them. So please let's not just blindly call each other (or towns or schools) names. Detracts from the dialogue.

 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Aug 16, 2005 2:51 PM
Yes, there was the guy two posts back who resorted to calling UF and Gainesville... what was it?  ... ah, yes, a bunghole.

This is excellent football analysis.  Would like to see more discussion on here about football, less about name calling.  But that's just me.  I expected a lot more out of the UT fans.

FYI, the games I'd have you losing are to Florida (a ranked team, away), at Alabama (same) and then to either Georgia or LSU.

If UT survives that schedule with just one loss, I will be the first to applaud them.  So please let's not just blindly call each other (or towns or schools) names. Detracts from the dialogue.
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I would like to see less name calling as well, but you bring most of it upon yourself by making inflammatory comments.

As for my comment about you being taken seriously, that was more a reference to a statement you made a while back about Fulmer losing it. Considering we just came off a season in which it is widely believed Fulmer did his best coaching job yet, followed by a consensus top 5 recruiting class (which some thought was #1), that has got to be the most ridiculous statement I've heard in a good long while.

After that, you'll have to forgive me if I take your prediction of a double digit loss to Florida with a grain of salt.

You are right, we could lose three games with the always brutal SEC schedule, but since we have Georgia at home and they've lost so much, I would consider a loss to either them or Alabama as unlikely unless we are not focused. And I don't see losing back to back games against Florida or LSU either. If UT loses to Florida, which to be honest I think its 50:50, then that will give them motivation for LSU. Also a loss to Florida would make UT more of an underdog at LSU, something they respond to very well, especially on the road.

If UT wins at Florida, I think a let down at LSU is another real possibility, say 50:50 again.

Basically, I think 1 loss is the most likely occurence, possibly 2 losses, but I just don't see Tennessee losing 3 out of the 4 very losable games this year. Too much talent on both sides of the ball.

As for the rest of the top 10, I have no idea where its gonna come from, but I think USC loses a regular season game this year. I think the Big 10 teams all beat up on each other too much and none of them make it to Pasadena.

I think Texas goes undefeated until a loss in the Rose Bowl.
My heart says it will be to Tennessee, but my head tells me that the pollsters will put USC in that game instead and they get their three-peat without going undefeated.

I hope this qualifies as "dialogue" for you, I didn't do much name calling
 
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Most excellent response SoCal. Yes, that is what I wanted to read.

Between you, me, and the lamppost, if your schedule was reversed in terms of home-away this year, then I think you would be number two preseason and in the eyes of many a likely heir to the number one spot should USC falter.

Taking on one tough opponent away is very difficult in the SEC. Taking on three is brutal.

One thing people forget is that these are just kids. Go down to the sideline sometime and look at their faces. Sure, somne of them are chiseled, probably due to roids and beating the crap out of each other for years, but most look like little kids. That's because they are. They panic. They make mistakes. They go up and down and the crowd is a factor in college.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Aug 16, 2005 3:32 PM
Most excellent response SoCal.  Yes, that is what I wanted to read.

Between you, me, and the lamppost, if your schedule was reversed in terms of home-away this year, then I think you would be number two preseason and in the eyes of many a likely heir to the number one spot should USC falter.

Taking on one tough opponent away is very difficult in the SEC.  Taking on three is brutal.

One thing people forget is that these are just kids.  Go down to the sideline sometime and look at their faces.  Sure, somne of them are chiseled, probably due to roids and beating the crap out of each other for years, but most look like little kids.  That's because they are.  They panic.  They make mistakes.  They go up and down and the crowd is a factor in college.
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I certainly don't forget that they are kids, that's why I like College so much more than the NFL.

What I base my analysis on is the fact that when I look at Tennessee's team, I see a lack of question marks. There's the secondary, and the special teams. That's pretty much it.

On Offense-
Our quarterback will be solid, no matter which one they go with (my bet is on Ainge).
Running back is being touted as a darkhorse Heisman candidate by some.
Receivers are considered one the strongest groups in the country, albeit with no go to guy.
O-line is the weak link on offense, but not particularly, there is enough returning experience that the line should be just fine.

Defense-
D-line is sick, 2 preseason All-American hopefuls, and the other two starters ain't bad either.
Linebackers- as always, a great group.
Secondary- probably the weakest group on the team, but that doesnt' say much. Last season they were weak with inexperience, not talent. This year, they are a year older, should be much improved, although everyone switching around positions is a little nerve-racking.

My point in all this? I believe that at least until their bowl game, UT will not meet a team that has more talent and experience then they have. Plus, I think its of great benefit to UT to have UF and LSU early on, where both teams have new coaches implementing new systems.

I look at Florida and I see questions all over on defense.

I look at LSU, Georgia, and Alabama, and see questions at qb. (For Alabama, this is simply because I dont' see Brodie Croyle making it through his 13th season of eligibility any better than the previous 12).

There have only been two times in the past 10 years where Tennessee has gotten the kind of preseason acolaides its gotten this year. One was after 1998, when everyone HAD to give UT some respect after the undefeated season and NC, the other was 1996 I believe, and that was because we had Peyton Manning. I look at this year's team, and I see no stars. In order to obtain the kind of preseason merit UT has with no stars to gain attention, that means that UT has the kind of well-rounded team that can't be denied.

Although I must admit, there's one potential loss I've forgotten about if UT is as successful as I believe they will be, and that is the SEC Championship Game. If we play LSU in that game, having beaten them once, there is a very real possibility that we could lose.
 
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Originally posted by SoCalVol@Aug 16, 2005 4:16 PM
I certainly don't forget that they are kids, that's why I like College so much more than the NFL.
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I look at Florida and I see questions all over on defense.


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There have only been two times in the past 10 years where Tennessee has gotten the kind of preseason acolaides its gotten this year.  One was after 1998, when everyone HAD to give UT some respect after the undefeated season and NC, the other was 1996 I believe, and that was because we had Peyton Manning.  I look at this year's team, and I see no stars.  In order to obtain the kind of preseason merit UT has with no stars to gain attention, that means that UT has the kind of well-rounded team that can't be denied.

Although I must admit, there's one potential loss I've forgotten about if UT is as successful as I believe they will be, and that is the SEC Championship Game.  If we play LSU in that game, having beaten them once, there is a very real possibility that we could lose.
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I totally agree with your sentiments. College football in particular seems to me to be inappopriately assessed based on the marquis player. A basketball team, with ten guys total and only five on the floor is much more easily and accurately evaluated based on the extreme talent.

But, when you don't have that well known "go to guy," then you just don't get the respect you should even if the team is solid, top to bottom.

In certain very rare instances, there have been players who I felt deserved that sort of respect -- that they could take a team from average to great. Michael Vick comes to mind. He truly was a different player. Deon Sanders might be a good example, too.

But such players are rare. Ainge gets some national pub. But after that, no one really knows these guys like they should because it is tough to keep track of 22 players (plus scrubs). Everyone just wants to talk about the best teams' QB's, that sort of thing.

As to UF, yes, the D is a huge ? mark. Just got to have faith that, with Zook having recruited talent pretty well and having been focused on defense anyway, and with at least a few guys who have some experience, that we can lash something together. I just feel like the problem there is one a lot of coaches would like to have, which is so much speed and raw ability everywhere it is hard to distinguish the players.

Meyer does not seem to me to be a cocky guy. He seems upbeat about the team and especially the new and improved work ethic. Could be because he is coming from Utahe and a down Florida team is usually way ahead talent-wise of the best Utes team. Reality that other SEC teams at this level have that, too, could come crashing down when he sees UT on 9/17.

Got to figure UF will be able to score if it can keep UT from blitzing, and that means a deep ball threat, and that means, as usual, got to be able to rush the ball. I think UF will be able to do that. Question is can we keep UT Offense off the field and will you make a couple of mistakes in an 8 p.m. game that will be unbelievably loud.
 
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Lawgator: "Namecalling" to me infers that a remark is directed toward a poster (e.g. "idiot, flamer"). I was simply stating the obvious: UT is 2-0 in Gainesville in the 21st century, with probably a less talented team than UF on at least one occasion, if not both. If you think you can post a prediction like "at least three losses" on a UT board without a little resentment from those with a preseason #3 team, a coach with a proven record in the SEC, and a record in your house such as ours without a little hostility, then think again.

After all, you have lost 15 games in 3 years, including an embarrassment at the hands of a worthless Miss St. team. Gainesville is, forgive me, a dump, and a lot worse could be said of "the swamp" (a.k.a. "Our Second Home").

My advice: post a respectable 9 or 10 game season, and THEN start talking smack. Until then, expect to be met with this kind of response.
 
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Originally posted by statman@Aug 16, 2005 1:29 AM
If Brooks looses that first game he is done

so i just dont know about louisville winning out.

im going out on a limb here! but louisville drops game one in a close one.
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Brooks will lose that first game unless the sun doesn't come up that day! I don't expect it to be close after Louisville's first series of downs on offense.

Win or lose, Brooks is surviving his last season as a head coach in the SEC. Brooks has been asleep at the switch as a recruiter. :snoring: The talent is well below par for an SEC Team, or Mid-Major for that matter, and didn't improve with the last recruiting class :yuck: :banghead:

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Originally posted by SoCalVol@Aug 16, 2005 2:25 PM
I would like to see less name calling as well, but you bring most of it upon yourself by making inflammatory comments.
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Also known as speaking about UT in a non-positive way. Gimmie a break, saying UT will lose 3 isnt inflammatory. Its a HUGE possibility. Some of you are blinded by Orange and White glasses. Believe it or not, but there is some things wrong with UT.
 
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Originally posted by GatorVille@Aug 17, 2005 10:54 PM
Believe it or not, but there is some things wrong with UT.
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:lolabove:

. . . .and apparently with UF, as well!
 
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Ahh, ya got me doc. My mistake. I hate it when I pause to think about what to say next, and forget about what I said before. *angry face. LOL
 
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