How to rename my towns renamed high school?

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C-south said:
Back in the day we had a similar isssue at a high school near me. They were nicknamed the “Rebels” but the name wasn’t the issue it was the mascot and maybe something to do with the confederate flag. They let the students there vote on a new mascot symbol but they are still the rebels. It was at least a compromise.
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The same exact thing happened at my old high school years ago. Were you in school in Southern middle Tennessee?
 
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n_huffhines said:
So, you're a grown man. She did this when she was 17.

Again, it's OK to be mad. My HS name changed too. Felt like we lost some history/tradition there. It sucks but it's not serious enough to be harassing people years after
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Yeah we all know you are OK with all this woke BS. You lost. The rest of America has had enough.

MAGA
 
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207 others said:
Franklin High School (near Nashville), nicknamed the Rebels, was renamed in 2020 by a woke blonde senior who wouldn't be accepted to Harvard without destroying a non approved culture. She renamed the local high school, "the admirals" (the harpeth river is 3 feet deep) got into Harvard because of it, and never came back.

I want to start a campaign to take my hometown back.

I was raised on "if you dont stand up, no one will" and have taken brazen initiatives my whole life for the people at the bottom who are never represented. The political elite class that took over Franklin needs to be fought against

I'd like to know how to get this to be VOTED ON.

THEY CHANGED THE NICKNAME BECAUSE ONLY 2000 PEOPLE ACROSS THE USA VOTED ONLINE ON A STUPID APP TO DO THIS. NO ONE I KNOW VOTED FOR THIS BS
www.tennessean.com

Scrutiny over Franklin High School 'Rebel' mascot prompts petition, new committee

The Rebel has been the mascot at Franklin High School since the 1930s. Now, many are wondering if it's still appropriate. A committee has formed to find out.
www.tennessean.com
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I think you left out some important details about what actually transpired.

Per The Tennessean:

Community input

The school formed a committee to consider the change after receiving community input, including two petitions from alumni with over 2,500 signatures. The committee recommended changing the mascot, and the school collected mascot suggestions from the community. The student body then voted on their favorite name, and the principal made the final decision.
 
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207 others said:
The Gators is a racist name that should be changed. Enjoy my petition for Gainesville, where I get 2000 Tennessee fans across the world to cancel you.

Follow the logic, I have dead family members over this, it's deeper than you think
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I’m between the Fighting Jorts and the Ragged Ninnymuffins to replace Gators. I’ll keep thinking on it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Times change. Why can't you ?

Seriously, the world has much bigger problems than the names of high schools or sports teams.
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So in Star Wars, the Rebel Alliance Are the racist baddies now? 😂
“Rebel” is just a word. It has positive and negative connotations. Remember that 1776 was also a Rebellion. Just because the term was most recently appropriated by a democrat led political movement to attempt to ensure ongoing control of minorities by white elites ( my but that seems oddly familiar) doesn’t invalidate the positive connotation of the term.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
So in Star Wars, the Rebel Alliance Are the racist baddies now? 😂
“Rebel” is just a word. It has positive and negative connotations. Remember that 1776 was also a Rebellion. Just because the term was most recently appropriated by a democrat led political movement to attempt to ensure ongoing control of minorities by white elites ( my but that seems oddly familiar) doesn’t invalidate the positive connotation of the term.
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Fair point that the word rebel has other contexts. I think in the South it generally is taken as referring to the Civil War. And not that we should not honor their sacrifice or the stronger union we all hope will one day truly emerge from it (we aren't there yet); but having a public institution identify with it seems unnecessary and I can see how it would offend more than a handful of people.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Fair point that the word rebel has other contexts. I think in the South it generally is taken as referring to the Civil War. And not that we should not honor their sacrifice or the stronger union we all hope will one day truly emerge from it (we aren't there yet); but having a public institution identify with it seems unnecessary and I can see how it would offend more than a handful of people.
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Serious proposal at a solution. What if the school in question brought back the name “Rebels” but changed the logo and mascot to a revolutionary war Minuteman?
Keeps tradition but uncouples it from the more negative and offensive associations?
 
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MontyPython said:
I think you left out some important details about what actually transpired.

Per The Tennessean:

Community input

The school formed a committee to consider the change after receiving community input, including two petitions from alumni with over 2,500 signatures. The committee recommended changing the mascot, and the school collected mascot suggestions from the community. The student body then voted on their favorite name, and the principal made the final decision.
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Oh I left out the details? Maybe I can paint a picture. The 2500 being alumni is fake news anyone in the world could sign it online. The committee is obviously woke, nepotism, and/or DEI, cat ladies, clam lickers and wine aunts. I'm sure i could get a job on it as a straight white man, and I'm sure the committee "formed" by nipple pierced HR ladies, at a school trying to actively destroy itself, had a fair representation in a county where their parents voted Trump 70%. Men are logical and women emptional, and only an incredibly, flamingly gay, wine and cheesecubes dining man, or a pedophile trying to put porn in the classroom, would be on a school committee these days-- to be surrounded by screetching, childless harpies who replaced God with Obama. So I'm sure there was great reasoning involved in this movement, started by a 17 year old white girl-- with intellectually honest "committees". lmao, people act like this isn't a circus world and their society is normal. The students didn't have a vote saying keep it either: this is the new flavor of democracy. There's trans bathrooms in west virginia, I'm sure they voted it in democratically or with formal representation from the republic. When you can't get something passed or someone elected, you source the proposal "to the committees" LOL, then you put the piece of legislation out on the internet to be voted on, and when 2000 worldwide sign it in a world of 6 billion people, it's said and done. This is all what happens when you send your child to public daycare to "learn".
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Serious proposal at a solution. What if the school in question brought back the name “Rebels” but changed the logo and mascot to a revolutionary war Minuteman?
Keeps tradition but uncouples it from the more negative and offensive associations?
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Not unreasonable.

Counter-proposal: Rename the school mascot the "Minutemen." Or better yet, the "Rebel Minutemen."
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Serious proposal at a solution. What if the school in question brought back the name “Rebels” but changed the logo and mascot to a revolutionary war Minuteman?
Keeps tradition but uncouples it from the more negative and offensive associations?
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Minutemen were New Englanders. What was the Carolina equivalent?
 
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I haven't read the full thread, but here are some thoughts.

1. it was renamed in 2020, meaning the freshman in 2020 are seniors now. so all they have know is the Admirals. so for them the tradition is the Admirals, Rebels will be just as pointless to them. changing again seems as disruptive of any school history as it was in 2020. it will also take several years for a name change to happen, so it will be even more students who only know "Admirals" who will have their tradition ruined.
2. doing some digging, before Franklin High School were the Rebels they were the Pioneers. so I find the outrage in this case to be very selective.
3. going the historical/traditional argument route presents another issue, why not go back to the local Native American name? you have to have a darn good argument for one specific reference imo. if the battle took place where the school currently stands it would make some sense, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
4. if you wanted to honor the history of the region there are more ways to do it than bringing back the "rebel" moniker. "Johnny Reb" was an insult from the north, the actual soldiers more than likely never thought of themselves as "Rebels". also the battle of Franklin was a pretty resounding defeat of the confederates, so it seems like a strange thing to hold up, but that is jmo. A lot of the fighting took place around Carter's House, so maybe that gets incorporated into the new name. or some other battlefield landmark. that would also honor both sides of the fight instead of purely a southern reference. there is already a "Battleground Academy" nearby, something agnostic like that would work too.
5. as people have pointed out Tennessee was pretty split in the civil war, so "Rebels" may not even be appropriate for the locals. Even in the battle there were several Tennessee regiments fighting for the Union at Franklin. so finding a more neutral name seems pretty appropriate to honor the actual history, and not to take a single sided form of it.
 
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