How unaffordable is college these days?

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#26
I am in my last year of grad school. I payed my own way through undergrad and grad school. I missed eligibility for the lottery scholarship by one year. Neither of my parents have a college degree.

Ya, I got student loans but I got through. To say it can't be done or that some people don't get the opportunity is a bold faced lie, from my perspective. The whole point of this country is opportunity, not hand outs. The opportunity is there for the taking.
 
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IPorange said:
Ya, I got student loans but I got through. To say it can't be done or that some people don't get the opportunity is a bold faced lie, from my perspective. The whole point of this country is opportunity, not hand outs. The opportunity is there for the taking.
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mother freaking harrumph.
 
#28
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utvolpj said:
I was confused too when I read Obama talking about it costing $40k for people to get an education. There are so many schools that are less than that with the ability to provide a comparable education. If you don't choose to use the resources your state provides then pay your own damn way.
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Here's the thing - we are a directional school type university but due to our structure and location, our business programs are as good as any in the state.

Why? We don't have a doctoral program so ALL business classes are taught by PhD faculty with work experience or instructors/adjuncts from the local business community. We don't use grad students to teach any of our classes. We routinely bring live projects into the classroom along with local business experts. We arrange for powerful internships.

We may be cheaper than other alternatives but I guarantee we can prepare a student as well or better for a career than any other school in the state.

The point is that $40,000 may be for a non-working student, living on campus and a school of their choice but there are plenty of quality choices that are considerably cheaper.
 
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volinbham said:
Here's the thing - we are a directional school type university but due to our structure and location, our business programs are as good as any in the state.

We may be cheaper than other alternatives but I guarantee we can prepare a student as well or better for a career than any other school in the state.
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just to be clear, we are talking about Alabama, right?
 
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#30
BigPapaVol said:
+1.

You might consider summer school so you can get the hell away from college and professors sooner. Then you'll have a chance to start thinking independently and make some political decisions based upon your tax bills.

I'll gladly welcome you when you make the inevitable transition.
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please.

i'm sooooooooooooooooo tired of hearing about taxes that probably won't even effect the average American household when/if Obama is elected.
 
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#34
allvol123 said:
So you are a proponent of higher taxes?
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did you have a hard time reading it the first time?

i'm sooooooooooooooooo tired of hearing about taxes that probably won't even effect the average American household when/if Obama is elected.
 
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doozer said:
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please.

i'm sooooooooooooooooo tired of hearing about taxes that probably won't even effect the average American household when/if Obama is elected.
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this would be why you're tired of hearing about them. You actually believe the garbage being put out there and that's your prerogative. Forget the tax bill that won't hit the average American, the job losses will. The complaint about McCain not making the point that Obama's 95% lie / fantasy tax plan is a big deal because the crap that he's suggesting doesn't remotely add up. He's glossing over some cost savings that make it work, but dems and cost savings have never happened in the history of our country. It ain't happening now.

Regardless, that comment wasn't about who's president. It was about the fact that paying substantial tax bills changes minds about politics. It's easy to vote based upon emotion until it costs money. Then emotions take a bit of a different rung on the hierarchical ladder.
 
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volinbham said:
A couple points:

If you just want to go to college; tuition and fees are not outrageous - if you want to go to a particular college, live there and not work while in school it can be quite expensive. Our MBA program costs about $10K total (tuition and fees) - that's cheap if you ask me for a 2 year graduate degree. Deliver pizzas on the side for 2 years prior and you could save enough to pay for it.
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That seems extremely cheap. $10K total tuition and fees for a MBA? If it is 12 classes, that is less than $1000 per class, and less than $300 per credit hour. I got my undergrad at an Alabama university 6 years ago and paid more than that per class and per hour.

School is not that hard if you really try. I worked two jobs and went to school full-time for 4 years to finish my undergrad debt free. My job paid every penny of my grad degree, minus the $70/year in parking pass fees.
 
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#38
here in cali you can go to a community college for something like $500 a semester and then can easily transfer to either UCLA or Cal after 2 years. You don't have to go $100k in debt to get an education if you are smart about it.
 
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droski said:
here in cali you can go to a community college for something like $500 a semester and then can easily transfer to either UCLA or Cal after 2 years. You don't have to go $100k in debt to get an education if you are smart about it.
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I think it is like that most anywhere in the country. I don't know why more people don't do it that way when money is a concern.
 
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IPorange said:
I think it is like that most anywhere in the country. I don't know why more people don't do it that way when money is a concern.
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They aren't smart enough to take classes that transfer to bigger schools and then are stuck, go in debt to finish out or just get a job and say to hell with school
 
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