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#26
#26
T-TownVol said:
who said that it did not
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It's part of that evil OT that keeps getting marginalized in these discussions. Whenever somebody claiming to be a Christian kills misbehaves, all we hear is Christ, NT, new law, etc.
 
#27
#27
rjd970 said:
Yet, that is the only part of the Bible claimed to be physically written by God himself. One would think that carries a little weight.
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fyp...

Need to be careful RJD... your statement makes it sound like you are a true believer. :p
 
#28
#28
rjd970 said:
It's part of that evil OT that keeps getting marginalized in these discussions. Whenever somebody claiming to be a Christian kills misbehaves, all we hear is Christ, NT, new law, etc.
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The OT was marginalized by the new covenant. There is no debate that those living under the new covenant no longer care about OT law.
 
#29
#29
lawgator1 said:
Well, all of those of you posting in the thread about the Congo that its isolated and "over there" -- guess today's news sort of kills that concept, huh?

Christian militia here in the U.S., planning to kill a policeman and then attack the funeral in hopes of ginning up a full scale revolt.

I did a Google search, and it appears that on their page they were quoting Glenn Beck. Can't access it now, I'm sure because of the arrests and what not.

But I am hoping the media do not relent on this and find out whether some of these right wing nut jobs are in fact taking their lead from the likes of Beck and Hannity and their ilk. Its important that the country sees the danger al of these folks pose to the American way of lifde.
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I seem remember another group frustrated by their government about 235 years ago. Thank God for them.
 
#30
#30
rjd970 said:
It's part of that evil OT that keeps getting marginalized in these discussions. Whenever somebody claiming to be a Christian kills misbehaves, all we hear is Christ, NT, new law, etc.
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and all the item covered by the 10 are not covered again in the New Testament?
 
#36
#36
volinbham said:
Who inspired the guy that was arrested for death threats against Cantor?
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Reprehensible. There is no place in our society for such threats.

I look forward to hearing the same from the commentators on the right. I am sure they will not minimize the threats to Democrats, will not claim they are exaggerated or simply made up, will not say things like "We will not sit down and shut up" or that they want to "reload."

No, I am sure the right wing commentators will work hard to calm down their listeners and advise them to wait for slow and incremental change, as opposed to rabid end-of-world lunacy.

....... Well, maybe not so much.
 
#39
#39
lawgator1 said:
Reprehensible. There is no place in our society for such threats.

I look forward to hearing the same from the commentators on the right. I am sure they will not minimize the threats to Democrats, will not claim they are exaggerated or simply made up, will not say things like "We will not sit down and shut up" or that they want to "reload."

No, I am sure the right wing commentators will work hard to calm down their listeners and advise them to wait for slow and incremental change, as opposed to rabid end-of-world lunacy.

....... Well, maybe not so much.
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How is it any tv or radio talking heads jobs to tell the most rabid out there to calm down? My guess is they have already made statements that condemn actions, like the ones that were contemplated in this case, but you wouldn't care to hear it because you are more concerned with turning it into some murder by proxy plot perpetrated by those on the right you dislike. Even if they haven't so what, you act as if the right has some kind of Vulcan mind meld thing going on or something.
 
#40
#40
lawgator1 said:
Reprehensible. There is no place in our society for such threats.

I look forward to hearing the same from the commentators on the right. I am sure they will not minimize the threats to Democrats, will not claim they are exaggerated or simply made up, will not say things like "We will not sit down and shut up" or that they want to "reload."

No, I am sure the right wing commentators will work hard to calm down their listeners and advise them to wait for slow and incremental change, as opposed to rabid end-of-world lunacy.

....... Well, maybe not so much.
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i see so your recomendation is what exactly? does oberman start every broadcast saying "hey i'm going to say some inflamitory things, but don't go out and kill someone ok?"
 
#41
#41
lawgator1 said:
Reprehensible. There is no place in our society for such threats.

I look forward to hearing the same from the commentators on the right. I am sure they will not minimize the threats to Democrats, will not claim they are exaggerated or simply made up, will not say things like "We will not sit down and shut up" or that they want to "reload."

No, I am sure the right wing commentators will work hard to calm down their listeners and advise them to wait for slow and incremental change, as opposed to rabid end-of-world lunacy.

....... Well, maybe not so much.
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As soon as there is proof I will condemn it, there are no witnesses or any video that shows what some Congressman from your side claimed.
 
#42
#42
In the end this is no different than blaming a murder on a video game or movie. It is utterly absurd.
 
#43
#43
KB5252 said:
How is it any tv or radio talking heads jobs to tell the most rabid out there to calm down? My guess is they have already made statements that condemn actions, like the ones that were contemplated in this case, but you wouldn't care to hear it because you are more concerned with turning it into some murder by proxy plot perpetrated by those on the right you dislike. Even if they haven't so what, you act as if the right has some kind of Vulcan mind meld thing going on or something.
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They can say what they want.

And I don't think they actively hope that someone goes out and shoots someone.

But at the same time, they are making a handsome living by seizing upon and perpetuating some extreme fears and so they will be held accountable when their words flame the passions to the extent that it does occur.



droski said:
i see so your recomendation is what exactly? does oberman start every broadcast saying "hey i'm going to say some inflamitory things, but don't go out and kill someone ok?"
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No. Its that Beck and his kindred spirits be held accountable when the push comes to shove.

volfanjustin said:
As soon as there is proof I will condemn it, there are no witnesses or any video that shows what some Congressman from your side claimed.
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Ah yes, the dismissing the notion that it even occured theory.
 
#44
#44
lawgator1 said:
They can say what they want.

And I don't think they actively hope that someone goes out and shoots someone.

But at the same time, they are making a handsome living by seizing upon and perpetuating some extreme fears and so they will be held accountable when their words flame the passions to the extent that it does occur.






No. Its that Beck and his kindred spirits be held accountable when the push comes to shove.



Ah yes, the dismissing the notion that it even occured theory.
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No, it's the I would like to see proof theory. We heard Congressmen were spit on and racial slurs directed towards them. A little proof of these claims would be nice.
 
#45
#45
lawgator1 said:
No. Its that Beck and his kindred spirits be held accountable when the push comes to shove.
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right. so i suppose you felt AC/DC should have been held accountable for the guy who listened to their music and killed someone?

and of course you have specific examples of people getting angry by listening to beck and commiting violence right?
 
#46
#46
lawgator1 said:
They can say what they want.

And I don't think they actively hope that someone goes out and shoots someone.

But at the same time, they are making a handsome living by seizing upon and perpetuating some extreme fears and so they will be held accountable when their words flame the passions to the extent that it does occur.






No. Its that Beck and his kindred spirits be held accountable when the push comes to shove.



Ah yes, the dismissing the notion that it even occured theory.
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This is absurd LG. People are responsible for their own actions, not the actions of others whom they have never met or had any interaction with. Unless it was some sort of conspiracy hatched to dupe the weak minded into acts of violence.
 
#47
#47
You have to admit, though, that people can be influenced to act a certain way by other people, or?
 
#48
#48
VolInMn said:
You have to admit, though, that people can be influenced to act a certain way by other people, or?
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I agree, but when you are trying to reach the masses you are bound to reach one or two mentally unhinged people, it is no different than singers and movie stars in that respect, they are not to be held responsible for the actions of disturbed people.

Unless their intention was to spark a violent reaction they are not responsible. I think we can all agree their intent is not to cause acts of violence to be perpetrated here.
 
#49
#49
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