Hyatt NIL deal with Hyatt hotels

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#27
sami said:
That all sounds good, but if a player is projected as a 1st (even early 2nd) round pick, and his game is predicated on speed, it makes no sense to stay. Too many possibly negative outcomes - a down year because of questionable QB play, a bunch of nagging injuries that kill his production, or worst of all a season ending injury. Hyatt's stock is likely never going to be higher than it currently is.
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Again... not your call to make. Not your risks to assume. Not even your negative assumptions to make.

He needs to consider what is most valuable to him then make his decision. You are consistent in first assuming the worst is likely... and second in projecting your own priority of money over everything else onto other people. There ARE things more important than money and risks that some people find worth taking in spite of money... or health... or other things you might value more.


PS- It doesn't just "sound good" to have values beyond materialism and money... it IS GOOD.
 
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sjt18 said:
Again... not your call to make. Not your risks to assume. Not even your negative assumptions to make.

He needs to consider what is most valuable to him then make his decision. You are consistent in first assuming the worst is likely... and second in projecting your own priority of money over everything else onto other people. There ARE things more important than money and risks that some people find worth taking in spite of money... or health... or other things you might value more.


PS- It doesn't just "sound good" to have values beyond materialism and money... it IS GOOD.
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The holier than thou comments from some on here about players opting out and going pro are inane. Is the idea to show your high moral quality as compared to us shallow, money-driven types? Well, whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Obviously it isn't my call and they aren't my risks, genius. If a player's goal is to play professional football, then money is going to be a huge part of the equation, as is when his value is highest to the people who will be paying him. If that offends your pure sensibilities, too bad.

I'd love nothing more selfishly as a fan than for Hyatt to return, but If I were advising him I would suggest he sit down with as many people as possible from now until decision day to know as closely as possible where he stands as an NFL prospect, and how his status would be potentially affected by staying another year. If you don't believe there are some negative possible scenarios he should consider, then you are too far gone to reason with. But then, I'm sure none of this will even register with you.
 
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This is the true purpose that NIL was intended for imo. Rewarding players who produced on the field with "marketing" deal for financial gain. Well deserved.
 
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sami said:
The holier than thou comments from some on here about players opting out and going pro are inane.
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As are yours. I didn't make such a comment though while you did. I said it is his decision and that he should make it based on what is valuable to him.

Is the idea to show your high moral quality as compared to us shallow, money-driven types? Well, whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
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Well, no. Not "my" high moral quality... just the "low moral quality" of people who evaluate everything in life selfishly and materialistically.

Obviously it isn't my call and they aren't my risks, genius. If a player's goal is to play professional football, then money is going to be a huge part of the equation, as is when his value is highest to the people who will be paying him. If that offends your pure sensibilities, too bad.

I'd love nothing more selfishly as a fan than for Hyatt to return, but If I were advising him I would suggest he sit down with as many people as possible from now until decision day to know as closely as possible where he stands as an NFL prospect, and how his status would be potentially affected by staying another year. If you don't believe there are some negative possible scenarios he should consider, then you are too far gone to reason with. But then, I'm sure none of this will even register with you.
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And now... the straw men and evasions through personal attacks.

I've made decisions that enhanced my income. I have made decisions that turned down money for other things that were more important. You keep pretending as if the money is all that is or even should be important.
 
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sjt18 said:
Could be... but they've shown they're still willing to pay him as an amateur.

I've said it before even after seeing the draft projections and all that. I don't think he's ready. I think there's a risk that his draft position will fall once teams take a microscope level view at his game. He's fast. But he's not faking guys out of their shoes or running physical like Velus did. A lot of his TDs were because he was schemed open rather than him running a great route or getting off physical coverage.

Ultimately though, this comes down to what he values and what he believes his risk/reward to be. The NFL money would be hard to walk away from. But I witnessed from a fairly close position Heath Shuler's decision to leave early and the ultimate impact it had on his NFL career. Maybe another year of development and maturity wouldn't have made the difference. But a guy with his physical talent was eventually sank because he wasn't ready mentally or emotionally.
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Good take. He’s a burner but does not juke defenders in the open field
 
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VolInDayton said:
So they are saying the hotel for the orange bowl is on Hyatts dime or did Hyatt just get all his teammates a free hotel for an additional vacation?
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This was very unclear in the SDS article. Hyatt’s teammates are getting gift cards that can be used (obviously) for any purpose, including defraying lodging cost for family members coming to Miami.
 
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#46
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tennesseeduke said:
I think he’s coming back with this NIL deal
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Nothing about this deal ties him in for next year. BUT it does make me much more optimistic that he will be playing in the bowl game. Hyatt Hotels would likely want that assurance before springing for this deal.
 
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sjt18 said:
Could be... but they've shown they're still willing to pay him as an amateur.

I've said it before even after seeing the draft projections and all that. I don't think he's ready. I think there's a risk that his draft position will fall once teams take a microscope level view at his game. He's fast. But he's not faking guys out of their shoes or running physical like Velus did. A lot of his TDs were because he was schemed open rather than him running a great route or getting off physical coverage.

Ultimately though, this comes down to what he values and what he believes his risk/reward to be. The NFL money would be hard to walk away from. But I witnessed from a fairly close position Heath Shuler's decision to leave early and the ultimate impact it had on his NFL career. Maybe another year of development and maturity wouldn't have made the difference. But a guy with his physical talent was eventually sank because he wasn't ready mentally or emotionally.
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Very nice comparison
 
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