I Am Beginning to Hate SDS Journalists

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IluvdoubleD's said:
It's just cementing my belief that not many in the south understand the hurry up yet. They've been taken by surprise with it just like the NFL. Butch said as much last year. He specifically stated that not many folks understand the hurry up or spread in pressers last year. The south is coming to grips with the new hurry up tempo. I'll give you some examples.

!: Going to the JUCO's for talent. I have family in alabama that don't even know what JUCO stands for... they are honest to goodness college ball fans. I was on my way to florida during the bam a game and was at my brothers house. I almost got exiled from the family. Alabama is scared ya'll. They look exactly like the folks on the T.V. screen biting their nails during the west V game. They don't understand what's happening yet.

2: The hurry up and speed is all about wearing out your opponent. That mean getting rid of the ball fast. That means tossing it before there is a man open a lot of times. Those deep balls that look so inaccurate by worley are by design. A lot of folks don't understand that yet. You GO. That is all. just GO. get into a rhythm. If it's not there this time it will be a couple times during a game and it only takes once to break the game open. As long as you are getting rid of the ball fast enough the D can't do anything about it. You are making them run all over the field.

3: Slowing the tempo. In the hurry up... slowing down the tempo wears out the D. In traditional football speeding up the tempo wears out the d. Dinking and Dunking all those inside passes happens at specific times to keep the D on the field. It's all about wearing down the opponent.
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Good post but not altogether true. When Cut went to the no huddle, he had the O hurry to the line to force defenders to hold their stance longer. I'm not sure he went hurry up that much... but they did emphasized getting to the line in a big hurry.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think the writers on SDS are necessarily "professionals". Even "columnist" would be too generous. I followed the links of one of their writers back to his Facebook page... he was just a guy... not a writer. Factual errors riddle the articles they post. There doesn't seem to be an editorial process.

If you get entertainment out of it then have at it however don't go there looking for "French models".
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TBH I think that some of those writers hang on volnation.
 
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Sikerth said:
In the days following our dominating performance over a decent Utah State team, SDS jumped on the Tennessee hype bandwagon and has continuously hyped up this team to be an SEC darkhorse in the articles below:



Now, an article posted less than an hour ago talks about how Tennessee fans have overreacted to the win with new, higher expectations:




I've been annoyed by their inaccurate journalism as of late, but to say that it's us who are overreacting (I believe most of us on here still believe a 6-6 or 7-5 season) just really hit a nerve.

Sorry for the rant, but I wanted to put this out here to see what the rest of you thought.
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"Journalists" are overblown English majors who set themselves up as sports experts because that's the only way they can get a paycheck. If they know more than you or I, I would be very surprised.
 
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sjt18 said:
Good post but not altogether true. When Cut went to the no huddle, he had the O hurry to the line to force defenders to hold their stance longer. I'm not sure he went hurry up that much... but they did emphasized getting to the line in a big hurry.
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There are ways to defend it. Stanford and LSU are masters at defending it. I don't altogether understand the details but it has something to do with the "three set" or "three point". Some kind of "three" type defense can handle it. I heard some NFL guys talking about in depth once.
 
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sjt18 said:
Says the guy who made a fool out of himself insisting that USU would be trouble for UT....

This is still a 6-8 win team. This OL is STILL in better shape size and talent wise than the one Kiffin had or the first two that Dooley had. There is no comparison between the skill player talent and depth between any of those teams and this one.
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Spot on sir.

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Oh yeah, as far as the o line is concerned. It hurts, obviously, but the hurry up tempo eliminates a lot of the challenges if you have body's to fill the hole. That's what it's all about.... oregon, MiZZU, it's just bodies filling holes. Just be deep enough. I'll tell you what. MISS ST Offense isn't there yet, but they have the bodies and the right idea on D. They have a bad ass D.
 
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sjt18 said:
Says the guy who made a fool out of himself insisting that USU would be trouble for UT....

This is still a 6-8 win team. This OL is STILL in better shape size and talent wise than the one Kiffin had or the first two that Dooley had. There is no comparison between the skill player talent and depth between any of those teams and this one.
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Gotta disagree from what we know at this point. Kiffin still had talent left on the team he inherited - Chris Scott and J. McClendon both got drafted after that season. V. Richardson, Josh McNeil, J Shaw...

Those guys were pretty darn good. I certainly hope our present line turns out even better, but to proclaim such at this point is a stretch.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
There are ways to defend it. Stanford and LSU are masters at defending it. I don't altogether understand the details but it has something to do with the "three set" or "three point". Some kind of "three" type defense can handle it. I heard some NFL guys talking about in depth once.
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You know maybe I am just thinking about the three zone defense now that I'm thinking about it but could swear there was a specific type of d used.

There are three types of up tempo you know.

1. the hurry up
2. the no huddle
3. the spread.

They are often combined and used in the same play. Mixed and matched in various ways.

Just throwing that out there.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yeah. Your whole schtick is built around the various ways you think UT "sucks" and will fail.

If you are truly a UT fan... I can't understand why. I mean is your significant other really ugly too? Does your job/school "suck" in every conceivable way? Are all of your friends fatally flawed?

It isn't that you just have low expectations... It is that you won't even consider anything positive and exaggerate everything negative.
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yes to all of the above. and 2016 will be the positive year for us. :devilsmoke:
 
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Catbone said:
Honestly that's not really negative. We should all be thrilled to win 6
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You'd be thrilled if we didn't win any games. To say we can't win seven games with our O-line?! I know they have a lot to work on, but did you not see how much the team improved over the course of last season. Please, go away from this forum, and stay away until you can actually pull for the Vols.
 
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Wizard of Orange said:
Gotta disagree from what we know at this point. Kiffin still had talent left on the team he inherited - Chris Scott and J. McClendon both got drafted after that season. V. Richardson, Josh McNeil, J Shaw...

Those guys were pretty darn good. I certainly hope our present line turns out even better, but to proclaim such at this point is a stretch.
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Kiffin had to start the Sullins bros. They bled orange but 265? IIRC, McNeil got hurt and those guys started in FRONT of Shaw and Vlad. After that... there was nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I am not sure the current guys are as good as those guys. At this point, I'd say they're not. But I am sure that they aren't down to starting a couple of 265 lb walk ons.... not even close.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
You know maybe I am just thinking about the three zone defense now that I'm thinking about it but could swear there was a specific type of d used.

There are three types of up tempo you know.

1. the hurry up
2. the no huddle
3. the spread.

They are often combined and used in the same play. Mixed and matched in various ways.

Just throwing that out there.
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Hurry up and no huddle are the same thing
 
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The no huddle can stall the line (like cut), the hurry up shoots before the d can line up (like Oregon).
 
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99gator said:
The first mistake was considering them to be journalists.
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Hey Gator, I noticed your signature. Go Vols? Did you lose a bet bro? By the way, even though you're not so bad for a jort fanatic, I will thoroughly enjoy us ending the streak this year.
 
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UNAVol89 said:
Hurry up and no huddle are the same thing
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You know, no that you have me cornered I started thinking about the other nuances. No Huddle can go back to huddle. It's a temporary thing that is mixed with other types of offense. You go in and out of no huddle. It's like a two minute drill. The hurry up is a more consistent style like auburn. You work towards it and then sustain it as long as possible.
 
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Then of course the spread is working it to the perimeter of the field. Making the opponent run side to side. Making them defend a bigger field. The object is the same in all three instances. Wear out the D. You want to wear out the D. Sometimes that mean slowing the tempo down... keeping the opponent on the field longer and slowing THEIR offensive rhythm. We did this to USU at the beginning of the second half. We never gave them a chance to get going...plain and simple. They didn't have a chance quite literally. Sometimes that means speeding it up. It's all about controlling the tempo. They used to say it was about controlling the minutes of the game. Then it was called momentum. Now it's understood...control the tempo and you dictate what happens in the game.
 
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Voltrapnbama said:
Wasn't Mauk a starter? Or did Franklin finish the year as the starter?
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Franklin finished the season. Mauk started 4 games. He completed less than 50% of his passes in 3 of those starts... and, for that, "journalists" and guys like Catbone have anointed him the next great SEC QB.
 
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