I am just going to say this about Hendon Hooker

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I love Hooker but he isn’t Peyton. Mannings ability to read a defense pre snap is unparalleled. And will you please stop with the Peyton didn’t beat Florida BS? Do you even remember those UF teams he had to play? Obviously you don’t. Here is a little refresher. From 94-97 UF won 44 games, 3 straight SECE titles, 29-3 in SEC and one NC. Oh and they had a Heisman winning QB.

No offense to Hooker but if you want to say he beat UF, he beat a bad UF. I mean Napier compared to Spurrier??? Come on.

Spurrier's Florida isn't Saban's Alabama teams lol. No way.

Spurrier lost to Florida State all of the time while Saban has 6 National Titles at Alabama.
 
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#53
He is the best Quarterback that I have seen playing in the Orange and White and I remember watching Tee Martin, Josh Dobbs, Casey Clausen, and Peyton Manning.
Sure Peyton Manning is an NFL HOFer and a legend but his time in Knoxville doesn't match up with what Hooker is currently doing. Manning never beat Florida and he struggled at times in games such as Alabama in 1996, Memphis in 1996, Vanderbilt in 1996 and 1997, Nebraska in 1997, and of course Florida every year.
Hooker has yet to have a major let down and walked into a far more difficult situation than any of the great QBs listed above. He has been more impactful than any of these QBs.
This is a big statement but I feel this is a true statement. We will see how he finishes the season but man this guy has been special on Rocky Top.

You done gone and done it now. Praising a QB and mentioning his name in the same sentence/thread as Vol-god, Peyton. That's a cardinal sin to quite a number of VN'ers, Mr. Volbound. Brace for the backlash, brace!
 
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He is the best Quarterback that I have seen playing in the Orange and White and I remember watching Tee Martin, Josh Dobbs, Casey Clausen, and Peyton Manning.

Sure Peyton Manning is an NFL HOFer and a legend but his time in Knoxville doesn't match up with what Hooker is currently doing. Manning never beat Florida and he struggled at times in games such as Alabama in 1996, Memphis in 1996, Vanderbilt in 1996 and 1997, Nebraska in 1997, and of course Florida every year.

Hooker has yet to have a major let down and walked into a far more difficult situation than any of the great QBs listed above. He has been more impactful than any of these QBs.

This is a big statement but I feel this is a true statement. We will see how he finishes the season but man this guy has been special on Rocky Top.
This is correct.
His stats reflect that as well.
 
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The biggest difference is that Hooker has to score 42-52 points per game in order to win. Peyton, as much as we love him, didn’t have to perform under so much pressure. He had All Americans on both sides of the ball. Peyton did not deliver as efficiently when playing in the pressure cooker. Hendon appears to be Iceman regardless of the situation and circumstances. All the names mentioned are great VFLs. Tyler Bray could have been legends if we had any form of defense. Plus he was a turd. You cannot compare corn to barley and hops. Both produce the same effect; lights out! Go Vols.
 
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He's as good as anyone I've ever seen here. He throws a beautiful deep ball, I don't recall one better. He can also make the short, post route throws, long throws on ropes across the field. Manning threw wobblers but his mind and decision making meant they were generally on target. Hooker has Manning's mind, Shuler's arm and can run nearly as well as Dobbs. 52 touchdowns and 4 interceptions is something we may never see again from any quarterback.

Run as well as Dobbs? I don't think so. Dobbs was a dadgum illusion. Sonuvagun looked more like he was jogging, then suddenly he was just gone. He practically played dodgeball when avoiding sacks, or magically escaped being trapped behind the line of scrimmage. Kind of dumb, but he didn't slide much, but then he was kind of big, or more muscular so could take a hit better, I imagine. He didn't rely exclusively on a spin move that doesn't really fool anybody either. Dobbs was an illusion, a will-o-the-wisp, mirrored smoke, the flitting thing barely within your peripheral vision. The closest comparable running QBs to him were Condredge Holloway, Tony Robinson, and Roger Staubach. OK, likely Randal Cunningham too. A touch of Fran Tarkenton, maybe, but with far fewer fumbles. Obviously, Hooker has the better arm, better accuracy, and the edge in decision-making. Not to pooh-pooh Hendon's running, but Dobbs as a running QB was a deceptive, and a darn freak.
 
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As a Vols fan you should hope this isn't true.
You should be hoping that Hooker is instead just as a good QB who has been made to look elite because we finally have a genius offensive coach who will have a track record of making QBs look way better than they really are.

I personally think our success offensively this year says far more about Huepel than Hooker. I believe going forward you will see other QBs come in and surpass what Hooker is doing right now.

I hope the X factor is Huepel and not Hooker. Spurrier plug and played a laundry list of QBs over his run. Only 1 (Grossman) had any sort of NFL success or staying power there iirc. And CHI fans would chafe at that, LOL.
For our Vols, I hope CJH can put together a multi decade run of plugging good pieces into his evolving system. If it's all on one megastar athlete, then it doesn't bode as well for us long term.
 
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I love Hooker but he isn’t Peyton. Mannings ability to read a defense pre snap is unparalleled. And will you please stop with the Peyton didn’t beat Florida BS? Do you even remember those UF teams he had to play? Obviously you don’t. Here is a little refresher. From 94-97 UF won 44 games, 3 straight SECE titles, 29-3 in SEC and one NC. Oh and they had a Heisman winning QB.

No offense to Hooker but if you want to say he beat UF, he beat a bad UF. I mean Napier compared to Spurrier??? Come on.
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He's been playing at a level I don't think I have ever seen in the SEC, period. From a mental aspect, Peyton had all the tools, but even he got excited in pocket, would over throw some. Even the Iceman Clausen could get rattled. Hooker is just cold as frozen blue steel. I think it's his clear conscience, and Jesus. He's calm in the midst of chaos, and just dials it in. When things go south, he doesn't force a bad play, he takes the sack, and calmly gets up and nails the first down. The man is more reliable then a wheel gun.
 
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The biggest difference is that Hooker has to score 42-52 points per game in order to win. Peyton, as much as we love him, didn’t have to perform under so much pressure. He had All Americans on both sides of the ball. Peyton did not deliver as efficiently when playing in the pressure cooker. Hendon appears to be Iceman regardless of the situation and circumstances. All the names mentioned are great VFLs. Tyler Bray could have been legends if we had any form of defense. Plus he was a turd. You cannot compare corn to barley and hops. Both produce the same effect; lights out! Go Vols.

I am sorry but I don't think Tyler Bray is even in the conversation. He padded stats against the OOC teams and weaker East teams but always looked bad in big games. I do think that was just as much coaching as him but I don't have Bray in my top 10.
 
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He is the best Quarterback that I have seen playing in the Orange and White and I remember watching Tee Martin, Josh Dobbs, Casey Clausen, and Peyton Manning.

Sure Peyton Manning is an NFL HOFer and a legend but his time in Knoxville doesn't match up with what Hooker is currently doing. Manning never beat Florida and he struggled at times in games such as Alabama in 1996, Memphis in 1996, Vanderbilt in 1996 and 1997, Nebraska in 1997, and of course Florida every year.

Hooker has yet to have a major let down and walked into a far more difficult situation than any of the great QBs listed above. He has been more impactful than any of these QBs.

This is a big statement but I feel this is a true statement. We will see how he finishes the season but man this guy has been special on Rocky Top.

Hendon struggled some last year. He's played 2/3 of a season at the level you are speaking. That said, I do remember Peyton's struggled and his happy feet and he is clearly the best to come through before Hooker if you take each QB's best years. Two things need to happen to determine whether or not you are correct.

1) Hendon has to find a way to be the it factor in this Georgia game. They are going to try and take some things away from him.

2) He has to become a HOFer and beat Peyton's records in the pros.

3) I would say win the Heisman, but we all know Peyton was snubbed.

Until then first two happen there is no way of knowing.
 
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HH4H is amazing running CJH's offensive scheme. NO IDEA though how he'd do if he was running another team's offense. Hope he goes to the pro's and doesn't turn into Tebow, Lawrence, Burrow, Mayfield or other disappointments. Future is bright for HH however, perhaps only as bright as his coaches.
 

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