I am on the fence

#26
#26
I am on the fence.

It wouldn't be as bad with her though would it?

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#27
#27
I'm on the fence too.

I really like Dooley, but he needs to win out convincingly. Including the bowl game.



Amazing that fans will put up with losing and a deterioration of the program if the HC is likeable.....just crazy.
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#28
#28
I'm on the fence too.

I really like Dooley, but he needs to win out convincingly. Including the bowl game.

I think it's OK to like Dooley as a person if that is why people want to do, but not as our head coach. Our recruiting is poor this year, our performance on the field is poor, and frankly, it sits sqaurely on Dooley.
 
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#29
Yes, i can for two reasons.

1. I can make that claim because I have a computer connected to VN and know how to type the claim. Whether you agree with it or not is a different matter.

2. The improved OL is directly related to hiring decisions CDD made so if you're going to damn him, at least give credit where it's due as well.

Now, I have been not shy about my CDD support but I also and have said, the need for RESULTS. We don't get them, things must change. I do believe he's on the cusp of turning the program around just not fast enough to suit most Vols fans. Once again, if we had a decent defense, we'd be winning more. Sunseri was hired to make the defense decent. I believed in him until Troy. I watched stunned beyond words with a mixture of disgust at how this slightly above high school level team kicked our defense in the rear and made them like it. Now, i know we have injuries, but that's not really the problem. It's tackling technique and just plain slowness of player personnel. Correction of the first problem would nullify a lot of teh second from what I've seen because often, the defense is in position.

But nevermind, what is, is, what will be, will be and nothing is what it either is, or was. :whatever:

I gave him credit for the hiring of good offensive coaches. The defense has been bad all season and now Dooley is going to pay extra attention to it. I hope things get better on defense, but it may be a little late. Of course I don't see how they could get any worse on D!
 
#32
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Originally Posted by Volsfaninva917
Sounds like to me your in the closet grow a pair dude this guy has to go

My what's in a closet? You're confusing me.

Possessive pronoun = your
Personal pronoun + v(be) contraction = you're

Just trying to help.

A little punctuation wouldn't hurt either. :unsure:
 
#33
#33
That snapping ya'll heard was me jumping off the band wagon.I was fully behind Dool's but after watching the last two games I was left with no other choice.
What I do not understand is.EVERYONE knew how important it was to take a huge step this year,I agreed with going with the 3-4 BUT As a leader why not stay with a base D that the players know and change up with parts of the 3-4,and slowly transition fully in two years.It might have stopped a lot of the growing pains we all know that come with this transition.
 
#34
#34
I fell off the fence at half time of the Troy game. Lucky I landed on my head, or I'd be out for the season.
 
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Yes, i can for two reasons.

1. I can make that claim because I have a computer connected to VN and know how to type the claim. Whether you agree with it or not is a different matter.

2. The improved OL is directly related to hiring decisions CDD made so if you're going to damn him, at least give credit where it's due as well.

Now, I have been not shy about my CDD support but I also and have said, the need for RESULTS. We don't get them, things must change. I do believe he's on the cusp of turning the program around just not fast enough to suit most Vols fans. Once again, if we had a decent defense, we'd be winning more. Sunseri was hired to make the defense decent. I believed in him until Troy. I watched stunned beyond words with a mixture of disgust at how this slightly above high school level team kicked our defense in the rear and made them like it. Now, i know we have injuries, but that's not really the problem. It's tackling technique and just plain slowness of player personnel. Correction of the first problem would nullify a lot of teh second from what I've seen because often, the defense is in position.

But nevermind, what is, is, what will be, will be and nothing is what it either is, or was. :whatever:

Here is another one that says Dooley is on the cusp of turning it around. BS. How long have people been saying that ? Dooley is the captain of this sinking ship and he should of been fired weeks ago , along with Sal.
He was a loser when he got here and he is still a loser.
 
#36
#36
In that case I In that case select one of the available coaches of:

Tripp Merritt
Dale Steele
Joker Phillips

Joker Phillips had more wins over ranked teams at UK than Dooley has at UT, and they had the same overall record at the start of this season. UK has far less talent and resources than UT.

Obviously I don't want Phillips, but you could still argue that he's a better coach than Dooley.
 
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#37
Remember how you felt when Troy was going up and down the field on our defense.
Remember how you felt when Bama ran rough shot over our defense.
Remember how you felt when UF killed us in the 4th quarter.
Remember how you felt when Akron ran all over us.
Remember how you felt when Ga State ran all over us.
Remember all the bad in game decisions.
Remember our players looking clueless on defense.

Facts.
Kiffin has more SEC wins than Dooley
Kevin Sumlin has more SEC wins than Dooley.
0-5 to start the season in the SEC for the 3rd straight year.
0-15 against ranked teams.
721 yards against Troy, Troy!

We have to fire the guy. His record speaks for itself.

This is Dooley's third year. If we are not absolutely sure about him being the coach by now, then there is something wrong. If this length of time isn't enough, there will never be enough time. He is what he is and it's not good enough. He should go NOW.
 
#39
#39
The problem with our society today, is we make looking for who to blame a priority over true analysis and/or common sense. Your questions show at least a search for a core cause to the issue. My personal thought is that the # 1 issue is our slow LBs and CBs plus their frequent inability to tackle. The slowness can't be changed but tackling issues to me means they aren't being taught fundamentals.

Good post and observations.

Add is they use a scheme that is man coverage in the secondary, which is utterly ridiculous when you lack speed. Then they bench their best player in the secondary (Waggs) in favor a true freshman starting his first game (Gray). That lasted a very short time. They blitz the slow LB's and have them tight to the line to stop the runs, which leaves the slot, RB's and TE's wide open underneath due to the slow secondary. If you will recall his stated goal was to get the roster bigger and stronger, not faster and more aggressive. I could go on, but that's enough to make a grown man throw up.

Now we learn that Dools is going to ride in and save the day on defense like he claims he did on offense (lulz). Wish he could use his brillance to change the results on the scoreboard by actually understanding his job, but he will have to do that somewhere else after this season.
 
#40
#40
Remember how you felt when Troy was going up and down the field on our defense.
Remember how you felt when Bama ran rough shot over our defense.
Remember how you felt when UF killed us in the 4th quarter.
Remember how you felt when Akron ran all over us.
Remember how you felt when Ga State ran all over us.
Remember all the bad in game decisions.
Remember our players looking clueless on defense.

Facts.
Kiffin has more SEC wins than Dooley
Kevin Sumlin has more SEC wins than Dooley.
0-5 to start the season in the SEC for the 3rd straight year.
0-15 against ranked teams.
721 yards against Troy, Troy!

We have to fire the guy. His record speaks for itself.

I agree he needs to be fired but I'm not going to fire him if it s for another assistant coach for the position of a hc.
 
#41
#41
Here is another one that says Dooley is on the cusp of turning it around. BS. How long have people been saying that ? Dooley is the captain of this sinking ship and he should of been fired weeks ago , along with Sal.
He was a loser when he got here and he is still a loser.

Clearly you need some soothing. Here you go: Johnny Cash - Swing Low, Sweet Chariot - YouTube
 
#42
#42
I've got no interest in watching Dooley murder the Maxims for another year just because our Offense put up 700+ yards against Troy. How many points did we put on the board against Bama and Florida?
 
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#43
#43
I gave him credit for the hiring of good offensive coaches. The defense has been bad all season and now Dooley is going to pay extra attention to it. I hope things get better on defense, but it may be a little late. Of course I don't see how they could get any worse on D!

I agree with you in more ways than I let on.
 
#44
#44
One final thing - and Vol fans please remember this if you are a VFL.

General Neyland always put his best players on defense. Always. Defend the house. The maxims are built on that central theme. On defense you never, ever, sacrifice speed for size or perceived strength except on down positions in short yardage situations.

Those of you that sing Chavis' praises as a DC should know that. If you don't and fell for Dools' spin on things you need to rethink your position. Saban has a philosophy on D that is successful due to unlimited commitment to Bama football by recruits, players and the boosters that fund their program. UT has not shown that same commitment or access to players that have grown up with the SEC running through their veins. So any attempt by Dools or any other disciple of Saban would fail at UT as things presently stand. Just another example of how Dools does not think or act the way he needs to be succussful at UT.

They trained the D roster to play the 3-4 as the base D in the spring and fall practice without the benefit of having a roster that could actually do it well. As a result they lost valuable reps and player development (techniques) time that could have been spent on building a better 4-3 D. Which makes the hire of Sal even dumber. And who made that hire? All at a time when he was already on the hot seat for the losing.
 
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One final thing - and Vol fans please remember this if you are a VFL.

General Neyland always put his best players on defense. Always. Defend the house. The maxims are built on that central theme. On defense you never, ever, sacrifice speed for size or perceived strength except on down positions in short yardage situations.

Those of you that sing Chavis' praises as a DC should know that. If you don't and fell for Dools' spin on things you need to rethink your position. Saban has a philosophy on D that is successful due to unlimited commitment to Bama football by recruits, players and the boosters that fund their program. UT has not shown that same commitment or access to players that have grown up with the SEC running through their veins. So any attempt by Dools or any other disciple of Saban would fail at UT as things presently stand. Just another example of how Dools does not think or act the way he needs to be succussful at UT.

They trained the D roster to play the 3-4 as the base D in the spring and fall practice without the benefit of having a roster that could actually do it well. As a result they lost valuable reps and player development (techniques) time that could have been spent on building a better 4-3 D. Which makes the hire of Sal even dumber. And who made that hire? All at a time when he was already on the hot seat for the losing.

Good post. I agree 100%
 
#46
#46
A few weeks ago I was ready to fire Dooley and donate $ to get him out.

However, the offense is darn good and we can only imagine what it would be like if the defense forced a punt or 5 a game.

That and as crappy as the defense is the team hasn't quit on Dooley. The kids are playing for him.

If we had a top 50 do defense we would have won 9-10 games this year.

Like every Vol fan I am shocked at how bad the D is.

Short of hiring Gruden I don't know that firing him is a good thing. Firing Sunseri might be LOL

This needs to happen. We have better personnel on defense than we had last year and last year we were ranked 27th in total defense. Our defense is horrific. Clearly, coaching is an issue. If Dooley is gonna be retained for another year, Hart needs to make a statement and Sunseri needs to be fired and replaced. This will let recruits that are on the fence know Dooley will be back for at least one more season. I can't figure out why Sal wasn't let go after Saturday unless Hart is planning on firing Dooley after the season. We are 9 games in and our defense has gotten worse each week. If he is planning on retaining Dooley for one more season, Sal needs to go now. He needs to let one of the Def assistants step in as DC for the final 3 games and see what they can do. No way it can be any worse.
 
#47
#47
A few weeks ago I was ready to fire Dooley and donate $ to get him out.

However, the offense is darn good and we can only imagine what it would be like if the defense forced a punt or 5 a game.

That and as crappy as the defense is the team hasn't quit on Dooley. The kids are playing for him.

If we had a top 50 do defense we would have won 9-10 games this year.

Like every Vol fan I am shocked at how bad the D is.

Short of hiring Gruden I don't know that firing him is a good thing. Firing Sunseri might be LOL
Any coach worth a damn would've already made some changes on the defensive side of the ball. The offense is good but is that even Dooley? He has never been a coordinator.
 
#48
#48
A few weeks ago I was ready to fire Dooley and donate $ to get him out.

However, the offense is darn good and we can only imagine what it would be like if the defense forced a punt or 5 a game.

That and as crappy as the defense is the team hasn't quit on Dooley. The kids are playing for him.

If we had a top 50 do defense we would have won 9-10 games this year.

Like every Vol fan I am shocked at how bad the D is.

Short of hiring Gruden I don't know that firing him is a good thing. Firing Sunseri might be LOL



Analysis of Napoleon after the battle of Waterloo.

Well the soldiers seem to be fighting hard for him and the calvary played really well! He just needs more time to get it all together.

Really???






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#49
#49
If they fire Sal and keep Dooley they wouldn't be able to get a good DC to come here knowing the situation with Dooley.
 
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