I don't understand the crowd that wants to avoid SEC championship games in the playoff era

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Voltopia said:
Conference championships have been pushed to the side by the almighty CFP. That's all it is. People can like it or hate that fact, but it won't change reality. If winning a conference title meant something significant enough to fight for, everyone would want it, but the CFP from its inception has been strippping the conference championship games of their cachet. It's just a bullet point on a sheet for next year. It doesn't carry weight in national conversations, not like it used to.

And the scenario is misrepresented anyway. The real question is this - do teams clawing for a spot in the lower half of the CFP bracket want to trade in a GUARANTEED shot at the College Football Playoffs, for a chance to play in a conference championship game - but - BUT - you MUST win or else you're completely out.

No one with common sense will want to surrender a guaranteed slot in the CFP in that scenario. No one. That's the impact of having the entirety of football media pushing the corporate playoff structure they're all invested in.
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That’s why the committee needs to clearly state that the conference runner up is the second team in for the conference IF THE CONFERENCE GETS MORE THAN THE CONFERENCE CHAMPION IN THE PLAYOFF. They need to make clear that teams aren’t penalized for being in the conference championship game.

In this years playoff that would mean the losers of the SEC and Big 10 championship games would be the 5th and th seeds. Of course the losers of the Big 12 and ACC championship games wouldn’t get in the playoffs because those leagues (this year) just aren’t strong enough to get more than one team in.
 
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Voltopia said:
Conference championships have been pushed to the side by the almighty CFP. That's all it is. People can like it or hate that fact, but it won't change reality. If winning a conference title meant something significant enough to fight for, everyone would want it, but the CFP from its inception has been strippping the conference championship games of their cachet. It's just a bullet point on a sheet for next year. It doesn't carry weight in national conversations, not like it used to.

And the scenario is misrepresented anyway. The real question is this - do teams clawing for a spot in the lower half of the CFP bracket want to trade in a GUARANTEED shot at the College Football Playoffs, for a chance to play in a conference championship game - but - BUT - you MUST win or else you're completely out and you get nothing.

No one with common sense will want to surrender a guaranteed slot in the CFP in that scenario. No one. That's the impact of having the entirety of football media pushing the corporate playoff structure they're all invested in.
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Hey now be careful with that common sense stuff around here. How dare you insinuate a natty is more sought after than a SEC championship. Go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve said.
 
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Sarms58 said:
That’s why the committee needs to clearly state that the conference runner up is the second team in for the conference IF THE CONFERENCE GETS MORE THAN THE CONFERENCE CHAMPION IN THE PLAYOFF. They need to make clear that teams aren’t penalized for being in the conference championship game.
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What if a team goes in and has a bad game and loses by 21 or 28?
 
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At the end of the day, nobody is gonna care about conference champ games anymore. Their gonna tune into the playoffs exactly what we’re already doing for March Madness. Nobody cares who won the conference. Its all about how far you got in the tournament. It is what it is now
 
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If they let that team in, it opens a can of worms that no one wants. The runner up in every conference would then have a argument to be in the playoffs regardless of record.

Whomever gets there with 2 L's better win. Think of UGA last year. SEC runner up and left out. Only loss of the season was in Atlanta.

We got tons of help today, beat Vandy and we should be in.
 
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Golfprovol said:
If they let that team in, it opens a can of worms that no one wants. The runner up in every conference would then have a argument to be in the playoffs regardless of record.

Whomever gets there with 2 L's better win. Think of UGA last year. SEC runner up and left out. Only loss of the season was in Atlanta.

We got tons of help today, beat Vandy and we should be in.
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Not every conference is getting more than one team in…this year only the SEC and Big 10 with get more than their champ into the playoffs. They shouldn’t guarantee the runner up a slot in the playoff because not all conferences will get more than one team in. But they could be clear that they aren’t going penalize a team for losing in their conference championship game by stating that the championship game loser will be the second team in IF the league has more than one team in the playoffs.

Or they can treat the conference championship game like a regular season game and a loss could cause a team to either be on the road in the first round or even worse, to be left out altogether.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Until we see how the committee handles the loser of a conference title game, especially in the SEC and Big Ten, it’s hard to say whether or not it’s worth it.
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And how long before we go to a 16 team field so it will continue to change
 
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Yeah, right....and we should play UGA, Bama, UF, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, and one other of the best of the SEC, every year and all on the road. Because to be the best youhave to beat the best....If we don't make the playoffs we should fire the coach and keep on until we win them all!
 
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ConantheVolbarian said:
Why would anyone want to avoid a chance to win another SEC championship? We haven't appeared in one since 2007 and haven't won it since 1998. That's also something other SEC programs use against us when they are talking trash and they aren't wrong!

Finally - and here's my biggest point - if you win an SEC championship you'll go on to win the whole thing 9 times out of 10. And if you don't win it you probably won't be able to win a national title anyway. At best you'd be just another playoff team. And I'd rather compete for an SEC championship than be just another team in a 12-team playoff.

Plus, it's loser talk when you say you'd rather avoid a conference championship game because you might lose. Get out of here with that nonsense!
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Because in the playoff era conf championships are like the Heisman. Don’t really care anymore. Playoffs matter now. Plus the SEC is not what it used to be.
 
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The purpose of play off should be to determine who is the best college football team. But with the expanded play offs it very well can become which team survived the play offs. All the teams in the play offs will be evenly matched hard nose football that increases the likely hood of injuries . Adding a conference championship game to that mix is all risk for little reward IMHO
 
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VolAllen said:
My opinion….ditch the game altogether now that there’s no East & West. Crown whoever is the #1 team at the end of the season and move on. Thats essentially what they do in basketball, then have an extra, meaningless SEC tournament champion.
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You’d have to convince the conference and all the schools to throw away a whole lot of money each year, though.
 
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I think it's a wash. If you lose the sec championship you probably aren't going to go far in the playoffs anyways, if you win you get a bye same as everyone else. They all gotta play the same number of games to make it to the championship.
 
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cyclevol said:
Yes, it's going to be embarrassing when the playoffs have an automatic berth for a 3 loss conference champion. It could happen, but more than likely it will be a 3 loss team that doesn't make the playoffs after losing the game while other 2 loss teams that didn't make the championship game get in ahead of them.
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Or you could keep the game and make it where conference champs can't have more than 2 losses to get an automatic bid
 
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Meaningless title in modern football. Im the SEC champion...Im the Big 12 Champion, Im the Dukes Mayo Bowl Champion.

in the 50's, yeah it meant alot more. In modern football, it another chance to have your QB blow out his ACL. Rather take the bye and rest up
 
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