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[justingroves]

I already gave you a list. Someone in the AD, someone on the team, someone in the compliance office, the list is endless.

You'll never know unless Griff says who it was, or if the person that did it says they said it.

It does not matter. No one reads his sh*t anyway, and it clearly appears that it was incorrect.

100% factually correct.

 

[LawVol13]

I already gave you a list. Someone in the AD, someone on the team, someone in the compliance office, the list is endless.

You'll never know unless Griff says who it was, or if the person that did it says they said it.

It does not matter. No one reads his sh*t anyway, and it clearly appears that it was incorrect.

Yea, and maybe an alien told him. I'm talking about a legitimate scenario. The fact that you're listing a player as a possible source of information about how Tennessee has reported a recruiting violation is hilarious.

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

Yea, and maybe an alien told him. I'm talking about a legitimate scenario. The fact that you're listing a player as a possible source of information about how Tennessee has reported a recruiting violation is hilarious.

Maybe a pro CBP booster told this to Griff.

 

[Spartacavolus]

I really don't know the purpose of this, except to try to rub more salt. Just not my cup of tea, regardless if you are right or wrong.

 

[LawVol13]

Maybe a pro CBP booster told this to Griff.

Right. A pro-Pearl booster blatantly lies to the media for Pearl. Obviously, this hypothetical booster shares a lot in common with Bruce.

 

[LawVol13]

And that is relevant because? So, some donors not aware of NCAA rules get tired of the media hits and bail. That doesn't change the facts of what we're arguing here. Appealing to the bandwagon isn't a successful argument tool.

All I know is that I've seen the bump rule happen all the time and never heard of the NCAA even making it a secondary violation for a coach. So, to me, it's not a violation and I wouldn't see any reason why UT or Pearl would deem it a violation.

Come on, Unimane. Pearl knew the microscope was on him. He should have reported anything and everything. I think it's a joke to think that he just never considered it a violation. Every coach in the NCAA knows the "bump" rule; it's not as if it's some obscure rule.

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

Right. A pro-Pearl booster blatantly lies to the media for Pearl. Obviously, this hypothetical booster shares a lot in common with Bruce.

to continue playing the hypothetical game: someone on staff or in AD office tells pro Pearl booster they aren't sure that the bump is a violation, pro Pearl booster tells Griff the bump isn't a violation. Griff writes article saying bump isn't a violation siting an anonymous source.

 

[tripper]

Again, why report something you don't think is a violation? What sense is that? And, how would he be lying for something he didn't believe was a violation?

The NCAA deemed it a major violation and I guarantee part of that designation was because Pearl did not report. Something is wrong with this picture. But once again, it seems Pearl could have been preemptive in his actions and contacted compliance; yet, he didn't.
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[LawVol13]

to continue playing the hypothetical game: someone on staff or in AD office tells pro Pearl booster they aren't sure that the bump is a violation, pro Pearl booster tells Griff the bump isn't a violation. Griff writes article saying bump isn't a violation siting an anonymous source.

You know, reading the quote might actually help you. Apparently, you've not understood what you've been responding to the entire time.

 

[hatvol96]

I'm still waiting for the tin foil hat wearing wing of the Pearlophiles to realize the bump violation just happened to occur on the campus of Nike's flagship prep program.

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

You know, reading the quote might actually help you. Apparently, you've not understood what you've been responding to the entire time.

You've asked for someone to give a legitimate alternative to someone of the staff telling this to Griff. I have given you plenty.

All of you guys attacks on Pearl are as tired as the defenses of him.

Just give it a rest, as I am. This will all be over soon.

 

[LawVol13]

I'm still waiting for the tin foil hat wearing wing of the Pearlophiles to realize the bump violation just happened to occur on the campus of Nike's flagship prep program.

I absolutely didn't know that. But, there's the excuse that will be made from now on.

 

[LawVol13]

You've asked for someone to give a legitimate alternative to someone of the staff telling this to Griff. I have given you plenty.

All of you guys attacks on Pearl are as tired as the defenses of him.

Just give it a rest, as I am. This will all be over soon.

That's probably what I'd say too if I didn't even know what the quote that I've posted about 20 times in response of said.

 

[Unimane]

Come on, Unimane. Pearl knew the microscope was on him. He should have reported anything and everything. I think it's a joke to think that he just never considered it a violation. Every coach in the NCAA knows the "bump" rule; it's not as if it's some obscure rule.

Huh? Yes, every coach knows that they are never busted on for the bump rule for talking for 2 minutes. That's kind of the definition of the bump rule. You (intentionally) bump into a kid, say hello, ask how he's doing and then say dood bye. Usually takes 30 seconds to a couple minutes. Why would he bother reporting on something that is routine and never a violation?

No, it's a stupid an petty tack-on by an organization that disseminates its violations and punishments unevenly. This is another case of wanting to pile on Pearl and is ridiculous. In any event, Pearl got himself into this mess, no doubt, and deserved the firing based on lying. However, to lose support on this bogus bump deal is crap and deserves to be called out.

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

I'm still waiting for the tin foil hat wearing wing of the Pearlophiles to realize the bump violation just happened to occur on the campus of Nike's flagship prep program.

I've never considered that angle. Pearl had to have known this when he walked into the building, and if he thought someone with a Nike affiliation wouldn't watch his every move then he is either dumb, arrogant, or blind.. maybe some combination of the three. Certainly should have known better.

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

That's probably what I'd say too if I didn't even know what the quote that I've posted about 20 times in response of said.

I've read your quote. I've responded to your requests. You have exhausted your arguments now that I have given you a legitimate response and have been driven to the tactic of your mentor, hat, and decided to attack posters rather than substance.

 

[LawVol13]

Why would he bother reporting on something that is routine and never a violation?

Possibly because the NCAA has launched a major investigation into your activities? That's probably why I would bother.

 

[LawVol13]

I've read your quote. I've responded to your requests. You have exhausted your arguments now that I have given you a legitimate response and have been driven to the tactic of your mentor, hat, and decided to attack posters rather than substance.

Then that's sad if you thought that's what it said. And, you haven't offered anything. Saying a player told Griffith is beyond stupid. If you could articulate why in the Hell a source in the AD would just blatantly lie, I'd like to hear it. Also, the pro-Pearl booster is almost as stupid as pretending you think a player told Griffith.

 

[Unimane]

Possibly because the NCAA has launched a major investigation into your activities? That's probably why I would bother.

We're running in circles here. Again, what this was is never a violation, never. I mean, should he have reported that he visited Oak Hill? That's not a violation, either, unless the NCAA wants to construe something out of it that they also never do. It's not a violation, has never been a violation and will probably never be a violation again, unless the NCAA wants to screw over another coach because they are pissed over what they feel are too lenient penalties by the university.

So, once more, if the parameter has been set that this is not a violation, why would Pearl have ever thought the NCAA would cite him for this?

 

[LawVol13]

We're running in circles here. Again, what this was is never a violation, never. I mean, should he have reported that he visited Oak Hill? That's not a violation, either, unless the NCAA wants to construe something out of it that they also never do. It's not a violation, has never been a violation and will probably never be a violation again, unless the NCAA wants to screw over another coach because they are pissed over what they feel are too lenient penalties by the university.

So, once more, if the parameter has been set that this is not a violation, why would Pearl have ever thought the NCAA would cite him for this?

I think you're probably overstating the insignificance of the rule. I absolutely don't think that the athletic department would do a complete 180 if Pearl was that innocent on that violation. Could you be right? Sure. But I don't see it.

 

[tvolsfan]

If Grif's right (which I highly doubt), then this turns into a lack of institutional control.

It is a kind of a big deal now that I think about it.

That kind of scares me, though. I don't know Hamilton, but if he wanted to retain Pearl thought he had a chance to do so, do you think he would hide the bump violation if he thought he could get away with it?

 

[LawVol13]

That kind of scares me, though. I don't know Hamilton, but if he wanted to retain Pearl thought he had a chance to do so, do you think he would hide the bump violation if he thought he could get away with it?

I don't think he did. Even if somehow Griff was right about this, we wouldn't be hiding it if athletic department officials are leaking it to the media.

 

[GoVols2003]

I'm still waiting for the tin foil hat wearing wing of the Pearlophiles to realize the bump violation just happened to occur on the campus of Nike's flagship prep program.

I've never considered that angle. Pearl had to have known this when he walked into the building, and if he thought someone with a Nike affiliation wouldn't watch his every move then he is either dumb, arrogant, or blind.. maybe some combination of the three. Certainly should have known better.

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