I really miss the.....

[Border Vol]

Then maybe politicians and the political elite can figure out how to exclude the fearless from receiving care that is partially provided by all us sheep. Maybe you will sign up to prevent use of a ventilator that could be used for us scaredy cats.

So nice you had to say it twice.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Your comment turned this thread into yet another tiresome debate on the covid subject as it was intended to do.

I'll leave you and the other posters to it.

No the OP's original post did!

Don't be naive. The original post would not happen without covid, so naturally someone will say something about it.

Don't act outraged. As if that's changed anybodys mind on the internet.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

No the OP's original post did!

Don't be naive. The original post would not happen without covid, so naturally someone will say something about it.

Don't act outraged. As if that's changed anybodys mind on the internet.

No outrage here.

Just think it is idiotic to have everything turn into a damned political debate anymore.

 

[Godfatha]

Let's not forget to thank the big dummy and all of his supporters who did as close to nothing as inhumanly possible to allow that virus to enter our country and run rampant through us.

I agree that more should have been done to shut the borders down, especially to China. It would also have taken more of a worldwide effort in that regard.

 

[ftsandersvol]

Thanks China

...and the DNC.

 

[Vol Main]

Why would I put stock in what “the Irish post” says? Don’t care what some globalist dork who wrote that says. All these other countries just want to make gullible idiots here think that we owe them something.

From best(1) to worst(98) the U.S. ranks 94 in this study.
Covid Performance - Lowy Institute

"The Lowy Institute is an independent think tank founded in April 2003 by Frank Lowy to conduct original, policy-relevant research about international political, strategic and economic issues from an Australian perspective. It is based in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. While the institute has alternatively been described as "neoliberal",[1] "centre-right" leaning[2] or "reactionary",[3] officially, its research and analysis aim to be non-partisan, and its active program of conferences, seminars and other events are designed to inform and deepen the debate about international policy in Australia and to help shape the broader international discussion of these issues.[4]
Lowy Institute - Wikipedia

Methodology
In approaching the task of measuring the comparative effectiveness of countries’ handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, a number of criteria are relevant. Fewer reported cases and deaths, both in aggregate and per capita terms, point towards a better response to the virus. More tests conducted on a per capita basis reveal a more accurate picture of the extent of the pandemic at the national level. Lower rates of positive tests, meanwhile, indicate greater degrees of control over the transmission of COVID-19.
To gauge the relative performance of countries at different points in the pandemic, this Interactive tracked six measures of COVID-19 prevalence in countries with publicly available and comparable data. In total, 98 countries were evaluated in this Interactive in the 36 weeks that followed their hundredth confirmed case of COVID-19, using data available to 9 January 2021. Data was extracted from the Our World in Data series, which is maintained by researchers at the University of Oxford and the non-for-profit Global Change Data Lab.
Fourteen-day rolling averages of new daily figures were calculated for the following indicators:

• Confirmed cases
• Confirmed deaths
• Confirmed cases per million people
• Confirmed deaths per million people
• Confirmed cases as a proportion of tests
• Tests per thousand people

Collectively, these indicators point to how well or poorly countries have managed the pandemic. An average of the rankings across the six indicators was normalised for each country to produce a score between 0 (worst performing) and 100 (best performing) on any given day in the 36 weeks that followed their hundredth confirmed case of COVID-19.
A score of 100 indicates that a country achieved the best average score across the six indicators compared to all other countries examined at a comparable point in time. Conversely, a score of 0 indicates that a country had the worst average score at a given moment during the pandemic.
Performance by types of countries was calculated by taking the average score of all countries that fell into the relevant category, where categories were determined based on the criteria set out below.
Regions were determined on the basis of commonly classified geographical groupings. The designation of political systems is based on The Economist Intelligence Unit Democracy Index 2019, with democracies comprising full and flawed democracies. Countries were considered to have a large, medium, or small population size if they had populations of over 100 million, between 10–100 million, or fewer than 10 million, respectively. The categorisation of advanced and developing economies follows the designations used by the International Monetary Fund’s World Economic Outlook.
Covid Performance - Lowy Institute

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

No outrage here.

Just think it is idiotic to have everything turn into a damned political debate anymore.

True. Its incredibly dangerous these days.

 

[secking]

And this is another issue. I don't trust the reporting from place to place. Sorry.

India has 1.3 billion people. It is a country with extreme poverty, extreme population density in certain cities like Delhi and Calcutta. Yet, their COVID numbers are way, way better than not just the United States, but most places across the Earth.

If the numbers are true then I have a few questions. Have they been standing 6 feet apart? Have they been sanitizing everything? Have they been wearing masks properly as well as washing and disposing of them properly? Did they have a strain on their healthcare system?

What were they doing that prevented the outbreak from exploding?

Good questions, pics from Wuhan pool party and New Years celebrations can be found everywhere. Add this question as well. Where did the flu go? THESE are eye popping numbers

Last flu season 400,000 were hospitalized 22,000 died

This flu season 136 people hospitalized 292 died

 

[secking]

I hope you're kidding- what will you do if the day comes when the vaccine will become mandatory? We had ours almost a month ago and no feathers or scales. I think more people need to take this more seriously but then people have choices of which I totally respect but then respect those of us that have made our choice to take the vaccine.

Have you had the 2nd dose yet? That’s the rough one. IF the medical field expects more people ‘to take it seriously’, then they need to lead by example. The medical field is refusing the vaccine. Over 50%, I could understand 5-10%, not over 50%. I known a bunch that are eligible that have received it but these places giving the shot aren’t being forthcoming, thus, more distrust. Not a single one has told anyone I know the risks and potential side effects. I do understand that’s a double edge sword. Some may change their mind, but the truth needs to be told to them. Last point, no idea on side effects from J&J, but the Moderna vaccine seems to have less severe side effects than Pfizer, no deaths associated with Moderna that I’ve seen.

 

[MSrivervol]

From best(1) to worst(98) the U.S. ranks 94 in this study.
Covid Performance - Lowy Institute

"The Lowy Institute is an independent think tank founded in April 2003 by Frank Lowy to conduct original, policy-relevant research about international political, strategic and economic issues from an Australian perspective. It is based in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. While the institute has alternatively been described as "neoliberal",[1] "centre-right" leaning[2] or "reactionary",[3] officially, its research and analysis aim to be non-partisan, and its active program of conferences, seminars and other events are designed to inform and deepen the debate about international policy in Australia and to help shape the broader international discussion of these issues.[4]
Lowy Institute - Wikipedia

Methodology
In approaching the task of measuring the comparative effectiveness of countries’ handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, a number of criteria are relevant. Fewer reported cases and deaths, both in aggregate and per capita terms, point towards a better response to the virus. More tests conducted on a per capita basis reveal a more accurate picture of the extent of the pandemic at the national level. Lower rates of positive tests, meanwhile, indicate greater degrees of control over the transmission of COVID-19.
To gauge the relative performance of countries at different points in the pandemic, this Interactive tracked six measures of COVID-19 prevalence in countries with publicly available and comparable data. In total, 98 countries were evaluated in this Interactive in the 36 weeks that followed their hundredth confirmed case of COVID-19, using data available to 9 January 2021. Data was extracted from the Our World in Data series, which is maintained by researchers at the University of Oxford and the non-for-profit Global Change Data Lab.
Fourteen-day rolling averages of new daily figures were calculated for the following indicators:

• Confirmed cases
• Confirmed deaths
• Confirmed cases per million people
• Confirmed deaths per million people
• Confirmed cases as a proportion of tests
• Tests per thousand people

Collectively, these indicators point to how well or poorly countries have managed the pandemic. An average of the rankings across the six indicators was normalised for each country to produce a score between 0 (worst performing) and 100 (best performing) on any given day in the 36 weeks that followed their hundredth confirmed case of COVID-19.
A score of 100 indicates that a country achieved the best average score across the six indicators compared to all other countries examined at a comparable point in time. Conversely, a score of 0 indicates that a country had the worst average score at a given moment during the pandemic.
Performance by types of countries was calculated by taking the average score of all countries that fell into the relevant category, where categories were determined based on the criteria set out below.
Regions were determined on the basis of commonly classified geographical groupings. The designation of political systems is based on The Economist Intelligence Unit Democracy Index 2019, with democracies comprising full and flawed democracies. Countries were considered to have a large, medium, or small population size if they had populations of over 100 million, between 10–100 million, or fewer than 10 million, respectively. The categorisation of advanced and developing economies follows the designations used by the International Monetary Fund’s World Economic Outlook.
Covid Performance - Lowy Institute

Do not care and did not read. Your party does not believe in biology. I don’t want to hear about science from any liberal out there.

 

[Volgolfer1618]

Then maybe politicians and the political elite can figure out how to exclude the fearless from receiving care that is partially provided by all us sheep. Maybe you will sign up to prevent use of a ventilator that could be used for us scaredy cats.

Well, we pay taxes, your post is pure bs

 

[Volgolfer1618]

Do not care and did not read. Your party does not believe in biology. I don’t want to hear about science from any liberal out there.

Lol, their party doesn't believe the science of unborn babies. I love how they pick and choose what science we're to believe

 

[swampfoxfan]

Well, we pay taxes, your post is pure bs

You're incorrect. Borrowing from a conservative viewpoint, why should my taxes support your carelessness?

 

[Orangeburst]

Arby's 2 for 5

 

[swampfoxfan]

Lol, their party doesn't believe the science of unborn babies. I love how they pick and choose what science we're to believe

Whoa, this isn't the politics forum. But your party doesn't believe in the science of climate change or greenhouse gasses or plastic pollution of the ocean or........

 

[Orangeburst]

Whoa, this isn't the politics forum. But your party doesn't believe in the science of climate change or greenhouse gasses or plastic pollution of the ocean or........

It is the politics forum

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Everyone gots to decide for themselves.

On the other hand, here's how I see it: the more of us get the vaccine, the closer we are to filling up Neyland again on Saturdays.

I got my first shot on Thursday.

Go Vols!

God vaccinated me.

 

[MSrivervol]

Lol, their party doesn't believe the science of unborn babies. I love how they pick and choose what science we're to believe

Nah man, not what I’m referring to. Can men be women? Dem party doesn’t believe in the biology of gender at birth. Hence, an executive order allowing men to play women’s sports. Can I decide tomorrow that I’m actually a woman?

 

[Volgolfer1618]

Nah man, not what I’m referring to. Can men be women? Dem party doesn’t believe in the biology of gender at birth. Hence, an executive order allowing men to play women’s sports. Can I decide tomorrow that I’m actually a woman?

Yeah, you could. Who's going to argue with you

 

[Volgolfer1618]

Whoa, this isn't the politics forum. But your party doesn't believe in the science of global warming or plastic pollution of the ocean or........

Thats ignorant.

 

[AirVol]

You should take this BS to the political forum.

Some people enjoy talking football in the football forum.

Y’all talk football?

 

[Wireless1]

And this is another issue. I don't trust the reporting from place to place. Sorry.

India has 1.3 billion people. It is a country with extreme poverty, extreme population density in certain cities like Delhi and Calcutta. Yet, their COVID numbers are way, way better than not just the United States, but most places across the Earth.

If the numbers are true then I have a few questions. Have they been standing 6 feet apart? Have they been sanitizing everything? Have they been wearing masks properly as well as washing and disposing of them properly? Did they have a strain on their healthcare system?

What were they doing that prevented the outbreak from exploding?

Curry?