I think Calipari deserves some credit

#29
#29
DeepSpringsVol said:
Calipari will only get credit if comes clean about his violations of him being a complete cheat. Unfortunately this country doesn't want truth soken or you get ounished and therefore sleezebags like Calipari don't come clean. Look what happens to guys who admit past wrong doings. Bruce Pearl and Pete Rose villified instead of praised fr coming clean. Calipari will take his sins to his grave and therefore remains as crooked and criminal as Hitler, Mussolini and Hussein.
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Wow. Really? Rose and Pearl? They did not come clean. They got caught and THEN they started confessing. I am sure if Calipari is every busted red handed he will "come clean" too.

The comparison to 3 of the most sinister people to ever live was a nice touch though. Just the small pinch of insanity the post needed.
 
#30
#30
zansdad said:
Wow. Really? Rose and Pearl? They did not come clean. They got caught and THEN they started confessing. I am sure if Calipari is every busted red handed he will "come clean" too.

The comparison to 3 of the most sinister people to ever live was a nice tough though. Just the small pinch of insanity the post needed.
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Pretty sure he said they came clean after the fact.....
 
#32
#32
Yeah the sinister fellas was to prove a point. There are all kinds of levels of terrible people. Some just don't have the ability to climb as high for many reasons. We only see with where they are at. If Calipari could be over a country there is no doubt it would be run as a mockery. Laws and NCAA guidelines who needs them in his eyes. Calipari feels he is above the laws.
 
#33
#33
It baffled me that so many discount Cals coaching because he has the best players. Part of coaching in college is recruiting. He's the best in that dept., whether you agree with his tactics or not. It's crazy that a large faction of you penalize him and his coaching because he gets better players. Like Zan said, if its so easy, why is he the only one doing it?
 
#34
#34
zansdad said:
Nope. He just said they came clean.
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To admit past wrong doings. It doesn't matter. In either of those 2 mens case they could have kept denying. Pearl could have kept with his story regardless and same with Rose. Calipari and WWW will never tell their misconduct. Marcus Camby, Derrick Rose, Eric Bledsoe and others proves too much smoke their is a blazing fire that Calipari is hiding.
 
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#35
DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah the sinister fellas was to prove a point. There are all kinds of levels of terrible people. Some just don't have the ability to climb as high for many reasons. We only see with where they are at. If Calipari could be over a country there is no doubt it would be run as a mockery. Laws and NCAA guidelines who needs them in his eyes. Calipari feels he is above the laws.
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Wow, you really have lost touch a little bit here. Off the court Calipari is very involved in charities and raising funds for worthy causes. To take his ability to live in the grey area of the rule book and vault that to some type of comparison with 3 people the participated in the mass murdering of millions of innocent people is silly and basically makes anything else you say suspect. Calipari cheats no more or no less than 90% of Div 1 coaches.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
To admit past wrong doings. It doesn't matter. In either of those 2 mens case they could have kept denying. Pearl could have kept with his story regardless and same with Rose. Calipari and WWW will never tell their misconduct. Marcus Camby, Derrick Rose, Eric Bledsoe and others proves too much smoke their is a blazing fire that Calipari is hiding.
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No Pearl and Rose could not keep denying. They were caught red handed. To continue to deny would have just made them look like fools, see Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, and Mark McGwire. Rose copped to what he thought was a deal to let him get into the Hall of Fame. Turns out he got burned. Pearl thought coming back after lying would save his job and his program. It almost worked but the NCAA wanted him too bad.

I agree that Camby, Rose and Bledsoe all point a large finger at Calipari, however, none of them are the smoking gun that gambling reciepts and photos of your misconduct are. Again, if someone ever catches Calipari with his hands in the cookie jar, I expect him to start coming clean too. Until then he will continue to use the same 3 words that all other D1 coaches live by. DENY, DENY, DENY.
 
#37
#37
We can disagree but thanks for keeping it professional. I respect your postings. A lot of posting disagreements I read on here and result in name calling.
 
#39
#39
Publicly, he seems a very likable guy--but I'm convinced he's a cheater. Too slick as a recruiter--but geez, does he pull in the ballers. Every year!
 
#40
#40
I think he's still arrogant and two-faced. But at least he presented himself well on tv and made it all about his players when you know that title meant more to him than anything. At least he made the SEC look good bringing home another title.
 
#44
#44
Sooner than later Cal will crash. Too much pressure to win it all every year. Crash and burn.
 
#46
#46
I think I'll wait 4 or 5 years on whether to give Cal any credit for this year.
 
#49
#49
keckjm said:
No offense, and I don't want to sound like billy the bad ass here, but it's not real hard to tell Davis to rebound and dominate. I mean the dude gets his hook shot whenever he wants, and he's a natural rebounder/shot blocker. Top that with the return of Terrence Jones and Kidd-Gilchrist coming in and you're set. Great, talented players make good coaches look great. When Cali takes a team of three stars and 2-3 4 star guys to the NCAA finals and win then I'll say he's a great coach. Cali is a great recruiter/motivator that has enough knowledge of the game to get NBA ready players to play a system that basically sets one on one plays to his star players. It's not hard. It's not complicated, but it's 110% effective.
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NOBODY takes a bunch of 3 star guys to the Finals and Wins it All. Florida, Mich St., Kansas, Duke, UNC, all the champions of the past 20 years had 4-5 star players all over their rosters, so to expect this is asinine - Butler making the Final Four is an exception, not the rule. One of Cal's UMass teams (without Camby) won 31 games with a SG who only hit a handful of threes all year, a 6'3 PF and very little talent. Josh Harrellson and Liggins weren't near the players they were before Cal arrived. If you think taking Freshmen and Sophs to a 38-2 season is easy, then you don't understand coaching much. Jay Bilas, Charles Barkley (guys who actually played the game at the highest level) say he's a great coach - I'll take their word for it.
 
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