I would consider voting for Mr. Romney

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My problem with the candidate specifically originates from the acute case of ‘politician’ he seems to be coming down with.

This was summarized nicely in this article: The presidency: So, Mitt, what do you really believe? | The Economist

Setting aside all the questions about what he wants to do as President he just comes off as a guy who will do or say anything to get elected. I’m not sure that trait alone sets him apart from many politicians but what does (in my opinion) is the degree to which his political ideologies have ‘evolved’. When he was governor of Massachusetts he was a liberal-ish guy - a champion for women’s rights, helped to create the healthcare model on which President Obama’s plan was based and was widely popular – his platform now couldn’t be more different. I remember the Republicans coining a term in 2004 for this sort of evolution when it applied to Senator Kerry, what was that phrase again?

Because I don’t agree with him socially (though that isn’t too big a barrier for me) and I trust him about as much as any other salesman, his plan for the economy needs to be above reproach to earn my vote.
 
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He's definitely a moving target on some of his views, but being a Republican in Massachusettscwho then gets into national politics, I'd say it near impossible not to be this way.
 
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He may be stiff....but considering him any more of a politician than Barry is just silly.

His experience in the private sector should be considered in your evaluation.

This election should be about two things. The economy and the size and scope of government.
 
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He may be stiff....but considering him any more of a politician than Barry is just silly.

His experience in the private sector should be considered in your evaluation.

This election should be about two things. The economy and the size and scope of government.

For me his time as governor carries much more weight than his time at Bain. As an executive in the private sector you have unilateral power to make changes that you can't in the public sector - especially when you have to fight with Congress to get anything meaningful done.

I agree with your last point, it should be about jobs.

Sort of on a dare, I'm going through Mr. Romney's 160 page economic plan now, (about 1/3 finished) and making notes hopefully I will have a better idea of his plan when I'm done.
 
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We shall see as the election pans out, whoever is elected I hope they have the wisdom and courage to challenge their supporters and advisors, listen to their critics and bring prayerful consideration to the most demanding job on the planet.
 
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He may be stiff....but considering him any more of a politician than Barry is just silly.

His experience in the private sector should be considered in your evaluation.

This election should be about two things. The economy and the size and scope of government.

agree.
 
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For me his time as governor carries much more weight than his time at Bain. As an executive in the private sector you have unilateral power to make changes that you can't in the public sector - especially when you have to fight with Congress to get anything meaningful done.

I agree with your last point, it should be about jobs.

Sort of on a dare, I'm going through Mr. Romney's 160 page economic plan now, (about 1/3 finished) and making notes hopefully I will have a better idea of his plan when I'm done.

I agree that his time as Governor gives a much better indication of how he will govern. I think I was just throwing that out there because I think his private sector experience works to off set the "career politician" moniker for Romney.
 
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We shall see as the election pans out, whoever is elected I hope they have the wisdom and courage to challenge their supporters and advisors, listen to their critics and bring prayerful consideration to the most demanding job on the planet.

There is such thing as honest dialogue in the political arena. The far right and the far left simply will not allow it.
 
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My problem with the candidate specifically originates from the acute case of ‘politician’ he seems to be coming down with.

This was summarized nicely in this article: The presidency: So, Mitt, what do you really believe? | The Economist

Setting aside all the questions about what he wants to do as President he just comes off as a guy who will do or say anything to get elected. I’m not sure that trait alone sets him apart from many politicians but what does (in my opinion) is the degree to which his political ideologies have ‘evolved’. When he was governor of Massachusetts he was a liberal-ish guy - a champion for women’s rights, helped to create the healthcare model on which President Obama’s plan was based and was widely popular – his platform now couldn’t be more different. I remember the Republicans coining a term in 2004 for this sort of evolution when it applied to Senator Kerry, what was that phrase again?

Because I don’t agree with him socially (though that isn’t too big a barrier for me) and I trust him about as much as any other salesman, his plan for the economy needs to be above reproach to earn my vote.

It can't be worse than the other guy's
 
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He may be stiff....but considering him any more of a politician than Barry is just silly.

His experience in the private sector should be considered in your evaluation.

This election should be about two things. The economy and the size and scope of government.

^This should end the entire political debate. Well said Lex.
 
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He may be stiff....but considering him any more of a politician than Barry is just silly.

His experience in the private sector should be considered in your evaluation.

This election should be about two things. The economy and the size and scope of government.

3 solid points. The first one always gets me - no candidate has been more of politician who says one thing and does another than Obama. It's amazing how blatant he is about it but gets some weird pass for it.
 
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We shall see as the election pans out, whoever is elected I hope they have the wisdom and courage to challenge their supporters and advisors, listen to their critics and bring prayerful consideration to the most demanding job on the planet.

The problem is, you know what the guy has done that is currently there. He listens to VJ, DA, and his wife in that order.
 
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So, you want to continue with:

1. more unemployment
2. more foreclosures
3. more taxes and debt
4. more malaise
5. more union bailouts
6. more unions being exempted from the worthless socialistic obama care
7. more of you paying for every illegal alien's health care.
 
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He may be stiff....but considering him any more of a politician than Barry is just silly.

His experience in the private sector should be considered in your evaluation.

This election should be about two things. The economy and the size and scope of government.

exactly. On a relative basis, this isn't an issue at all. In fact, it's probably a relative strength. If this is a serious issue for someone, they'd never even consider voting for either guy, IMO.
 
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He may be stiff....but considering him any more of a politician than Barry is just silly.

His experience in the private sector should be considered in your evaluation.

This election should be about two things. The economy and the size and scope of government.

The problem there is both parties like the size of the government.
 
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exactly. On a relative basis, this isn't an issue at all. In fact, it's probably a relative strength. If this is a serious issue for someone, they'd never even consider voting for either guy, IMO.


I've gotten past the automotron thing. In fact, in a sense it is rather reassuring.
 
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it's too bad Paul Ryan is a P90Xer and not a Crossfitter. The cult of Crossfit could've swung the election.
 
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For me his time as governor carries much more weight than his time at Bain. As an executive in the private sector you have unilateral power to make changes that you can't in the public sector - especially when you have to fight with Congress to get anything meaningful done.

I agree with your last point, it should be about jobs.

Sort of on a dare, I'm going through Mr. Romney's 160 page economic plan now, (about 1/3 finished) and making notes hopefully I will have a better idea of his plan when I'm done.
Most companies have a board and decisions, atleast important ones, are voted on. And, if you havent noticed, BO has begun making some executive decisions without running them through congress.
 

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