If 51% of the American population is on the government's payroll

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How will this country ever have the votes to get politicians in who can truly get this fixed?
 
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RespectTradition said:
We have jumped the shark.

There is no going back.
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Pretty much. Any attempt to lower the amount of people getting govt money will be met with jeers of insensitivty by the media.

It's blatantly obvious that can't be sustained, but no one wants do do anything about it.
 
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Term Limits would help, not much of chance of that passing.
 
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

2012 - 1776 = 236
 
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I really think that if every single person in the US didn't vote for one cycle, it would send a message that we are in control and they need not forget it. If you have to be voted in, and not a single vote is cast, no one can be elected. If I saw someone that I believed would help this country, I would vote for them. They are all fat cow politicians, who have nothing but their own agenda in mind for this country.
 
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This is why I think no one who doesn't pay net positive federal income taxes should be allowed to vote in a federal election.
 
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I don't buy the 51%

And if you buy something in TN you pay about 10% sales tax.

So the way I am looking at it on the bright side is maybe these 51% will get us a lower sales tax.

My main gripe right now is my fooking property tax......damn
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
I don't buy the 51%

And if you buy something in TN you pay about 10% sales tax.

So the way I am looking at it on the bright side is maybe these 51% will get us a lower sales tax.

My main gripe right now is my fooking property tax......damn
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Property tax is the most evil tax.

Pay us money or we will steal your house from you! Then we will sell it to someone else. Then we will require them to pay danegeld to us or we will do it to them too! Bwahaha!

Property taxes make it impossible to just move out into the middle of nowhere and farm and hunt your own land and live in peace. You are forced to interact with others to make at least enough money to keep your property.
 
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RespectTradition said:
Property tax is the most evil tax.

Pay us money or we will steal your house from you! Then we will sell it to someone else. Then we will require them to pay danegeld to us or we will do it to them too! Bwahaha!

Property taxes make it impossible to just move out into the middle of nowhere and farm and hunt your own land and live in peace. You are forced to interact with others to make at least enough money to keep your property.
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yep where is the freedom in that
 
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Property taxes are the devil. And I live in AL.

My brother lives in DC. That's a horror show when it petains to cost of living.
 
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RespectTradition said:
Property tax is the most evil tax.

Pay us money or we will steal your house from you! Then we will sell it to someone else. Then we will require them to pay danegeld to us or we will do it to them too! Bwahaha!

Property taxes make it impossible to just move out into the middle of nowhere and farm and hunt your own land and live in peace. You are forced to interact with others to make at least enough money to keep your property.
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I find it really funny (actually sad) that the US government forces people to pay a property tax, even though they stole that land.
 
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zjcvols said:
I find it really funny (actually sad) that the US government forces people to pay a property tax, even though they stole that land.
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I guess that might make one wonder what you are talking about.

My family, on my dad's side, moved to this continent in the 1772 (or thereabouts) from england. My great-somothingorother-granddaddy moved to tennessee in the 1780s and married a Cherokee woman and bought land from her tribe to live on. That land is now the farm I grew up on.

So, who stole land?
 
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RespectTradition said:
I guess that might make one wonder what you are talking about.

My family, on my dad's side, moved to this continent in the 1772 (or thereabouts) from england. My great-somothingorother-granddaddy moved to tennessee in the 1780s and married a Cherokee woman and bought land from her tribe to live on. That land is now the farm I grew up on.

So, who stole land?
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Anybody hear about the Trail of Tears?

Anybody at all? Come on now.
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
i know you're patronizing ... right?

i hope?
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Not really. Englanders came in, forced Native Americans west, declared "Hey, we are the US" and then forced them west some more, then north, and gave them very small patches of land in the Dakotas after repeatedly lying to them.

Basically stealing land.

Although "owning" land is a weird idea in of itself, but that's a completely different topic.
 
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zjcvols said:
Anybody hear about the Trail of Tears?

Anybody at all? Come on now.
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And that is relevant to the fact that my family farm was not stolen land how? or the fact that counting the various marriages in my family to cherokee women that I am 1/8 (my mom tells me, I used to think it was 1/16 but my mom told me that I was not counting her side of the family) cherokee? Am I one of the oppressors or one of the oppressed?
 
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zjcvols said:
Not really. Englanders came in, forced Native Americans west, declared "Hey, we are the US" and then forced them west some more, then north, and gave them very small patches of land in the Dakotas after repeatedly lying to them.

Basically stealing land.

Although "owning" land is a weird idea in of itself, but that's a completely different topic.
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Can one steal something that is not owned?
 
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RespectTradition said:
And that is relevant to the fact that my family farm was not stolen land how? or the fact that counting the various marriages in my family to cherokee women that I am 1/8 (my mom tells me, I used to think it was 1/16 but my mom told me that I was not counting her side of the family) cherokee? Am I one of the oppressors or one of the oppressed?
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How is your family history relevant to US oppression of Native Americans?

Congrats. You didn't have land stolen from the US government. Your family is lucky.
 
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zjcvols said:
Not really. Englanders came in, forced Native Americans west, declared "Hey, we are the US" and then forced them west some more, then north, and gave them very small patches of land in the Dakotas after repeatedly lying to them.

Basically stealing land.

Although "owning" land is a weird idea in of itself, but that's a completely different topic.
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hey i agree

and you changed the subject
so touche but that was not my intent
 
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