If college football were to have a playoff...

#27
#27
do it this way
you take the 11 conference champs. seed them 1 through 11.
THEN you take the 5 conferences' that have split divisions and take the 5 losers of each conference championship games and seed them 12 through 16.
there is your 16 team playoff.
as for the independent teams...screw them...join a conference or have a play in game.
 
#29
#29
Currently, to get to the NC game or a BCS bowl depends on your overall record, so teams typically schedule their one out of conference "respect" game and three cupcake/recruiting area OOC games because OOC games affect your chances to get a major bowl invite.

With a playoff based on conference championships, OOC games cease to have any meaning. Example- Bama can go 11-1 with a loss to LSU, LSU goes 7-5 with a loss to Auburn and 4 OOC game losses. LSU wins the SEC West. LSU wins the SEC championship game, heads to the 8 team playoff with an 8-5 record while 11-1 Bama heads off to the Weedwhacker Bowl. Bama wins their bowl game and finishes 12-1. LSU wins their 3 playoff games and finishes as National Champs with an 11-5 record. Is an 11-5 LSU team really better than a 12-1 Bama team?

So, while a playoff might lead teams to schedule better OOC opponents, those OOC games cease to affect a team's chances to get to the playoff and therefore cease to have any real meaning.

Just something to consider when talking about a playoff system.
 
#30
#30
ok..why doesn't every team JUST play all the teams in their conference? no OOC games. that way a playoff would be "WOW..Bama has to play Texas just to play the winner of FSU/Ohio ST." nice.
 
#31
#31
I like the plus 1. You go back to playing all the BCS games on NYD, and do away with these minor games that schedule after New Year's. After all the bowls are played, you do a final BCS ranking, factoring in the bowl results. Then #1 and #2 play a week after New Year's at the site of one of the BCS games.
 
#32
#32
16 Teams, BCS type ranking system...

1-8 seeds get home games vs. 9-16 seeds on the week of Christmas...

Re-seed based on results and match 1 vs. 8, 2 vs. 7, 3 vs. 6, 4 vs. 5 in the 4 BCS Sites (Fiesta, Rose, Sugar, Orange) all on NEW YEAR's DAY... Committee would place the top 4 seeds at their nearest site by rank. 4 Winners meet up at two pre-detrmined sites site on following weekend, and a pre-determined National Championship location the next weekend.

WVU (16) @ Bama (1)
Miami (15) @ Texas (2)
BYU (14) @ Cincinnati (3)
Penn State (13) @ TCU (4)
LSU (12) @ Florida (5)
Viriginia Tech (11) @ Boise State (6)
Iowa (10) @ Oregon (7)
GT (9) @ Ohio State (8)

This would make for some interesting matchups, that I'm sure the home fans would love to see... Would make for some great TV. Sometimes you get familiar foes like LSU @ Florida...

(Let's say the favorites all win...)

ROUND 2:

Bama vs. Ohio State in the SUGAR
Texas vs. Oregon in the FIESTA
Cincinnati vs. Boise State in the ORANGE
TCU vs. Florida in the ROSE

ROUND THREE:

Bama vs. TCU - Georgia Dome - Atlanta, GA
Texas vs. Cincinnati - Lucas Oil Stadium - Indianapolis, IN

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP:

Bama vs. Texas - Cowboy Stadium - Arlington, TX
 
#34
#34
if you cant win your conference, you have no business even being mentioned for contention for the National Championship.
 
#35
#35
GreveHaller said:
if you cant win your conference, you have no business even being mentioned for contention for the National Championship.
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Not sure if this is referring to my earlier post but if it is, you have missed the point.

While a playoff may be a better way to end the season, it also has an affect on the beginning of the season. Take this weekend- Bama/Penn St., Fla St/Oklahoma, Oregon/Tenn. Some important games there. What makes them important is the impact they have on a team's chances of making it into a BCS game.

With a playoff based on conference championships all of these games lose their value. Teams can afford to treat OOC games the way the Colts treat pre-season games because winning or losing has zero affect on your chances to make the playoffs. Oregon can come to Knoxville and play all their backups, work on their schemes and timing and completely ignore the scoreboard because OOC games are simply a glorified practice when your conference record is the only thing that matters.
 
#36
#36
In my dream world, it would be 16 teams.

Assuming the current 12 game regular season format ( although I would cut it back to 11).

Figure out some sort of RPI/BCS formula that all can be happy (or live) with. Any conference champion who has 10 wins over FBS opponents in their 12 regular season games (conf title games do not count for this) that is ranked in the top 20 of this formula poll would be given an automatic invite regardless of conference. After this at large bids are given to those with 11 wins, 10 wins, and so forth.

First round games are played at higher seeded teams either the second or third Saturday in December (work out the around finals schedule). Christmas week is off. Quarter finals are played at 4 bowl sites on Dec 31 and Jan 1. Semifinals would be the 8th and 9th at two more bowl sites. Title game would be played on the Saturday/Monday of the NFL Conference championship weekend at the 7th bowl site.

Up the wins requirement to 7 and increase the payout and use the other bowls as a NIT if you will.

That's my input. It'll never happen though.
 
#37
#37
spudvol said:
Not sure if this is referring to my earlier post .
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No, I was not.

If you come in second, you have no right to be crowned NC or even vie for it. It cheapens the award. Win your division, win your conference, then you can compete for the NC. Otherwise you're giving out sportsmanship trophies.
 
#38
#38
spudvol said:
Not sure if this is referring to my earlier post but if it is, you have missed the point.

While a playoff may be a better way to end the season, it also has an affect on the beginning of the season. Take this weekend- Bama/Penn St., Fla St/Oklahoma, Oregon/Tenn. Some important games there. What makes them important is the impact they have on a team's chances of making it into a BCS game.

With a playoff based on conference championships all of these games lose their value. Teams can afford to treat OOC games the way the Colts treat pre-season games because winning or losing has zero affect on your chances to make the playoffs. Oregon can come to Knoxville and play all their backups, work on their schemes and timing and completely ignore the scoreboard because OOC games are simply a glorified practice when your conference record is the only thing that matters.
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Not nearly as much as they lose if it's a 16 team playoff.
 
#39
#39
GreveHaller said:
No, I was not.

If you come in second, you have no right to be crowned NC or even vie for it. It cheapens the award. Win your division, win your conference, then you can compete for the NC. Otherwise you're giving out sportsmanship trophies.
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In this case, drop conference championship games.
 
#42
#42
BigOrangePassion1 said:
Scrap the bowl games. Keep the BCS but only as a way to identify the two and large teams. 6 BCS conference champions and 2 at large teams. Do it this way every year.
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that would never work. there's too much money tied in to too many places. if there was ever going to be a successful playoff system, both the bowls and/or bowl money would have to co-exist or be tied in with the playoff bracket somehow.

i'm all for a type of playoff format as much as anyone, but it's not as simple as "scrap the bowls, get a new system." there's too many variables that have to be considered.
 
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#43
#43
GreveHaller said:
whatever. As long as its the conf champion not the runner up going for the NC.

In reality, those conf championship games would be considered the opening round.
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No 4 loss team in one division deserves the same shot as a 1 loss team or unbeaten in the other.
 
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