If Dooley is gonna be ok, good, great, or Uh Oh

[Rock33]

I'm concerned by DD in a couple of ways-
1) How does Willie Mack pack up and leave in the cover of darkness without the HC knowing something was going on ?
2) Some of these recruits (5'10" Safety from TX) don't really seem to be SEC quality. (I know EB, but he was a 5* freak)
3) Coaching hires are tough at this time but we seem to be pulling a lot of guys from lower confs.

I've heard all the "trust DD", "time tables", and "upside" responses, but I'm now beginning to worry a little.

Am I worried for no reason, or does anyone else feel like we are missing something with New Coaches and Recruiting ?

 

[CINCYVOL]

I'll be concerned if they don't win more than they lose in the first couple of years under Dooley.

 

[65YearsAVol]

It's definitely a wait and see hire from the top down for the football program. If this doesn't work out we will be faced with rebuilding from the top down that would require a complete marketing strategy revision. I vote Pat Summitt for AD.

 

[VolStubbs]

I think all of us are in the same boat here. We all fear the things we are uncertain about, but at this point that's all we can do. Could this all have happened differently? Probably, but we as fans don't get to make the major decisions. All we can do is rally behind our coach and trust that he is making good decisions. I think Dooley will do fine, and I hope we have a great run with him and whoever he brings with him. I want it more then anything! I live in gator country and I'm tired of listening to these arrogant fans!

 

[Majorvol23]

As far as recruiting and getting new coaches, I strongly feel the timing of all this is working against us. In an order to save face, coaches at other schools don't want to bail on their responsibilities and promises.

We don't know the dynamic between DD and Willie Mack. DD may not care? Or Willie Mack doesn't care anything about working for DD? i say good riddance, and i wouldn't be worried unless another coach leaves. I feel Charlie Baggett is a big hire, too.

I'm gonna be patient and see where we stand on NSD... Plus, i kinda see the quiet operation Dooley is running as him working his tail off. At least I hope...

 

[Rock33]

So I'm not alone..... I WANT him to succeed as much as possible but the above seems to still apply ?

 

[DCVOL50]

We will have to wait and see, but all true VOL fans should support our new coach and give him a chance. Our program did not get where it is in 1or 2 years and it might take more than 1 or 2 to fix it, but I doubt seriously if our fair weather fans can give him a true chance.

 

[ochocinco]

1) of course dooley knew he was on the ledge. its business. i compare it to bj coleman leaving, he didnt have a guarantee or patience. cant blame anyone in either situation.

2) dont get so caught up in stars. rogan was a 3 star RB and he did ok in the secondary. boise st and tcu have virtually no 4/5 stars and they do just fine. id rather have a 3 star who will work to get better than a 5 star whos just tryin not to get hurt for 3 yrs till he can go pro

3) yeah pretty hard to hire a coach right now. imho Dooley is focusing on guys with brains/ambition. guys who have overachieved and arent afraid to work 80 hrs a week. just like with recruits, id rather have a workaholic thats hungry than a big name hired just for the wow factor

it wont be as public or dramatic as the past year but when the dust settles we will have a top 10 class just like we expected a month ago. nothings changed - we are still Tennessee

 

[UTMark]

I think WMG has the ethics of the man that brought him here. STAY CLASSY L.A.!! CDD cannot do anything about someone leaving in the middle of the night shortly after he brought in a 4* WR stud. CDD did everything but pick up CKS from Clemson, so I do not think that can be blamed on him, either. And finally, we have plenty of 4 and one 5* player on campus this weekend. ALL because of our current staff. Look, it has been a tough month, but Dooley will pull us through this tough time and get us organized for the years to come.

 

[Majorvol23]

It's definitely a wait and see hire from the top down for the football program. If this doesn't work out we will be faced with rebuilding from the top down that would require a complete marketing strategy revision. I vote Pat Summitt for AD.

You know, Pat Summitt for AD actually doesn't sound that bad:rock:

 

[Mattlock]

He's the coach of the Vols, I'm a fan of the Vols. He gets the benefit of my doubt until he proves otherwise.

 

[VolStubbs]

I think all major programs have their moment in the sun. Ohio, USC, Oklahoma and Florida are obvious examples. Alabama is going to have their time, I hope Tennessee is on its way again. I think Dooley is a "measure twice and cut once" type of person. I got a good feeling about this guy and his abilities. He'll get the job done for Tennessee.

 

[VolStubbs]

I agree with the Pat Summitt comment. That woman can make things happen with a look! You guys know the look I'm talking about! :rock:

 

[VolsCigarMan]

CDD needs to hire someone with recruiting ties in South Florida or Florida in general. He is fine in Tn, GA. TX, LA, VA, MS, AL but needs someone that can get 3-5 kids per year from Florida or at least be in the ballgame recruiting Florida.

 

[Mattlock]

CDD needs to hire someone with recruiting ties in South Florida or Florida in general. He is fine in Tn, GA. TX, LA, VA, MS, AL but needs someone that can get 3-5 kids per year from Florida or at least be in the ballgame recruiting Florida.

He was in South FL two years, he's a pretty good recruiter. Also still looking at the Bucs LB coach as DC, right?

 

[65YearsAVol]

I think the best thing that has come of all this is patience. I was in Pasadena two years ago when CPF led the team onto the field. Last year in Ktown it was CLK. THis year I will be pumped and cheering when CDD leads the team on the Vol walk. A single coaching change is difficult. Three different coaches in three years is really tough.
When all is said and done we will be OK.

 

[Mattlock]

CDD needs to hire someone with recruiting ties in South Florida or Florida in general. He is fine in Tn, GA. TX, LA, VA, MS, AL but needs someone that can get 3-5 kids per year from Florida or at least be in the ballgame recruiting Florida.

Also, the coach he hired today played QB at Central FL and is a FL native.

 

[tommyut]

The fact is Dooley is the HC and that can't change if you like him or not. Either the Vols will move up or move down. If they move down then Dooley and Hammy are gone. The worst thing will be is that the football program will be as far down as it ever has been. This hire will will get us back where we should be or down to the bottom with Vandy. Just like Norte Dame, FSU, NEB., etc. once you are down it's hard to get back to the top. So this is it for the Big Orange. Time will tell where we end up

 

[champyvol]

i would lean to ok, average.

 

[SGMVols]

The fact is Dooley is the HC and that can't change if you like him or not. Either the Vols will move up or move down. If they move down then Dooley and Hammy are gone. The worst thing will be is that the football program will be as far down as it ever has been. This hire will will get us back where we should be or down to the bottom with Vandy. Just like Norte Dame, FSU, NEB., etc. once you are down it's hard to get back to the top. So this is it for the Big Orange. Time will tell where we end up

Dooley is inheriting the equivalent of a team on probation. I can't imagine a scenario in which he leaves behind a worse situation than either of the two previous coaches, even if he doesn't get the job done on the field.

 

[Rock33]

He inherited a Top 10 recruiting class in '08 and a Top 10 '09 Class plus a 7-6 record that was improved from the year before.... I think he has enough pieces to a puzzle to make the picture clear....

 

[VolFan4life24]

I'm concerned by DD in a couple of ways-
1) How does Willie Mack pack up and leave in the cover of darkness without the HC knowing something was going on ?
2) Some of these recruits (5'10" Safety from TX) don't really seem to be SEC quality. (I know EB, but he was a 5* freak)
3) Coaching hires are tough at this time but we seem to be pulling a lot of guys from lower confs.

I've heard all the "trust DD", "time tables", and "upside" responses, but I'm now beginning to worry a little.

Am I worried for no reason, or does anyone else feel like we are missing something with New Coaches and Recruiting ?

keep the faith bro.. just because eddrick lofton is a bit smaller than most safties doesnt mean he doesnt pack a huge punch or that he cant do good in coverage and just because we are not pullin in 5* doesnt mean we arent getting good talent... some 5* recruits develope early and are only as good as what they are coming from high school while some 3 and 4* recruits develope into big time players so you cant rlly go into panick mode without waiting to see just exactly what these guys are made of.....

 

[MOOOOONEY]

He inherited a Top 10 recruiting class in '08 and a Top 10 '09 Class plus a 7-6 record that was improved from the year before.... I think he has enough pieces to a puzzle to make the picture clear....

and 20+ scholly players down, so we are at 60-65 scholly players

 

[Rock33]

keep the faith bro.. just because eddrick lofton is a bit smaller than most safties doesnt mean he doesnt pack a huge punch or that he cant do good in coverage and just because we are not pullin in 5* doesnt mean we arent getting good talent... some 5* recruits develope early and are only as good as what they are coming from high school while some 3 and 4* recruits develope into big time players so you cant rlly go into panick mode without waiting to see just exactly what these guys are made of.....

Great response, to 1 question, I appreciate that thought line. The fact remains that he will need to be one Helluva Defensive Coach to get, (the kid you mentioned), him anywhere near SEC ready in 18 months.

 

[Rock33]

and 20+ scholly players down, so we are at 60-65 scholly players

Well now, this has been an issue for at least 2 years... I don't expect DD to correct this issue tomorrow but I do expect his "non existent" staff to do so before NSD. I would think he and his contacts had Big Time recruits on the board before he was hired ? I would expect that Now, he has funds, facilities, and Tradition on his side. He was a "recruiting coordinator" under Sabaan.............:good!: