If Florida is really that good, then why...

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#26
UT IE 95 said:
Are you seriously trying to sell the idea that UF makes more money playing the Citadel at home than they make playing UGA in Jacksonville?
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Oklahoma and Texas both readily admit they make more on home games with tomato cans than they do off of the Red River Shootout. Can't imagine it is any different for Florida and Georgia.
 
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#27
Tennessee

2009: 7 home games
2008: 7 home games
2007: 7 homes games
2006: 7 homes games
2005: 6 homes games
2004: 7 home games
2003: 7 homes games
2002: 7 homes games
 
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Mr. Two Bits said:
Charleston Southern receives $450,000 for playing at Florida. Florida and Georgia each get 1.6 million for their game. So yes, UF makes more money scheduling cupcakes at home.
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Well, that settles it then. UF is not only attended by, but actually run by imbeciles with no business acumen.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Tennessee

2009: 7 home games
2008: 7 home games
2007: 7 homes games
2006: 7 homes games
2005: 6 homes games
2004: 7 home games
2003: 7 homes games
2002: 7 homes games
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hatvol96 said:
Let's look at it. Let's say Florida sells 90,000 seats at $50 bucks a pop. That's $4.5 mil. Tennessee is paying Cincinnati, a recent Big East champion, 900K to come to Knoxville in 2011. Thus, it's reasonable to assume the Charleston Southerns of the world get considerably less, probably around 600,000. Factor in concessions, mechandise, parking, etc. and that's an awful lot of money to throw away by playing an extra road game.
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It's a pretty good formula for a schedule. Play your conference schedule, play 3 mid-majors that will come to your place most of the time, play one big-league OOC game in which you have to go home-and-home. Tennessee schedules that way. Florida schedules that way, the only difference being that their big-league OOC game is with annual rival FSU, which I will suggest is as strong year-in-year-out as a jumble of UCLA/Cal/Miami/Notre Dame mixer.

It makes economic sense, and it is strong enough to keep you from getting hammered by the "they haven't played anybody argument." Add to hat's math the aggravation that dropping a home game every other year would garner from boosters and season ticket holders, and you've got the template that most successful college football programs use.

Florida's mid-major games have been pretty weak in recent years, but the fact of the matter is that whether you play Citadel and MTSU or Memphis and Wyoming, for an SEC and national power, the game should be a rollover.

I don't have a problem with Florida's scheduling. If they can roll through the SEC schedule and then cap off the season by beating FSU before playing a championship game and a bowl, they will have done enough.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Oklahoma and Texas both readily admit they make more on home games with tomato cans than they do off of the Red River Shootout. Can't imagine it is any different for Florida and Georgia.
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I imagine Oklahoma and Texas make more playing the Red River Shootout than they do making the home-and-home.

Jax throwing heat in bid to keep Cocktail Party : Fanblogs College Football Blog

Among the findings:

- Florida and Georgia are guaranteed $1.6 million per year - or $6.4 million over a four-year period.
- Both UF and UGA net about $2.2 million per home game. If the series were to move to home and home, both teams would make about $4.4 million over a four year span, approximately $2.2 million less than they currently make in Jacksonville.
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#31
VolDad said:
The OP, or anyone else for that matter, has not provided a source. So how reliable is this info?
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This info is completely false. The only team we were talking to about coming to the Swamp this year is Utah.
Florida Almost Lined Up Utah Instead of CharlestonSouthern - Team Speed Kills


It was in the works and going to happen then Lane the brain decided to run his mouth and now September 19th has become the biggest game of the season to us. We will never give up our 7 home games. Some UT fans are forgetting that you don't have a neutral site game
 
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#32
UTVOLSGURU said:
Did Urban Meyer turn down Pete Carrol's request for a home and home for 2009 and 2010? Ya see, the solution is simple, Florida does not think they are as badass as everyone views them, because they don't have the grapefruits to play USC, and quite frankily, we all know why. What a tough first game that would be, no national title, just a ruined season, because USC would CRUSH Florida, and if you disagree, well, check into the mental hospital because you have no brains left.
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ofcourse UF is skeered...you nailed it..but if they can lose to Ole Miss at home and still win a NC..then a loss to USC would most definitely put them out of NC aspirations:mf_surrender:
 
#33
#33
NCGatorBait said:
ofcourse UF is skeered...you nailed it..but if they can lose to Ole Miss at home and still win a NC..then a loss to USC would most definitely put them out of NC aspirations:mf_surrender:
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Had they played USC, as they by rights should have, to conclude their title seasons, they would likely be twice as hungry in their title aspirations.
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#34
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UTVOLSGURU said:
Did Urban Meyer turn down Pete Carrol's request for a home and home for 2009 and 2010? Ya see, the solution is simple, Florida does not think they are as badass as everyone views them, because they don't have the grapefruits to play USC, and quite frankily, we all know why. What a tough first game that would be, no national title, just a ruined season, because USC would CRUSH Florida, and if you disagree, well, check into the mental hospital because you have no brains left.
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is this all you ever do?
 
#35
#35
lawgator1 said:
Tennessee

2009: 7 home games
2008: 7 home games
2007: 7 homes games
2006: 7 homes games
2005: 6 homes games
2004: 7 home games
2003: 7 homes games
2002: 7 homes games
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#36
#36
Meyer wanted tp replace the first game opponent with Utah-his old school where he coached previously. Gators still may have won. Outside the SEC would would be the toughest opponent for the Gators-the Longhorns, a team from the Big 10. We know that the SEC especially the Vols have done well lately against the Big Ten. Only Penn State has given us fits -in bowl games. We've beaten them in regular season.
 
#38
#38
BigPapaVol said:
Had they played USC, as they by rights should have, to conclude their title seasons, they would likely be twice as hungry in their title aspirations.
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Yeah, because we all know what a gauntlet the PAC Ten is. You continue to impress with your acumen.
 
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Mr. Two Bits said:
Yeah, because we all know what a gauntlet the PAC Ten is. You continue to impress with your acumen.
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And you continue to impress with your homerism.

No way Florida beats USC last year had they played in the NCG, plain and simple.

The Pac 10 had a down year last year and still went 5-0 in bowl games. Is the Pac 10 as deep as the SEC or Big 12? No. But one thing everybody overlooks about USC in the conference debates is not only is USC a powerhouse in the Pac 10, but they have been a consistent a powerhouse in the nation. USC is loaded with 5 star athletes 2 deep at virtually every position. The only other teams that come close to that national presence are Florida and Oklahoma, of which Florida never had an undefeated season.

USC had the offense, and one of...if not the best...defensive lines in the country last year. Ole Miss exposed Florida with a great defensive front play and USC would have done that and had the rest of the total package Ole Miss didn't.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Had they played USC, as they by rights should have, to conclude their title seasons, they would likely be twice as hungry in their title aspirations.
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This is 100% true.

I still think USC was the best team in the country last year, as much as I don't want to admit it.
 
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rjd970 said:
And you continue to impress with your homerism.

No way Florida beats USC last year had they played in the NCG, plain and simple.

The Pac 10 had a down year last year and still went 5-0 in bowl games. Is the Pac 10 as deep as the SEC or Big 12? No. But one thing everybody overlooks about USC in the conference debates is not only is USC a powerhouse in the Pac 10, but they have been a consistent a powerhouse in the nation. USC is loaded with 5 star athletes 2 deep at virtually every position. The only other teams that come close to that national presence are Florida and Oklahoma, of which Florida never had an undefeated season.

USC had the offense, and one of...if not the best...defensive lines in the country last year. Ole Miss exposed Florida with a great defensive front play and USC would have done that and had the rest of the total package Ole Miss didn't.
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Very weak position. The only teams that come close were Oklahoma and UF you say...and Florida beat Oklahoma by 10. UF is loaded with 5 star athletes and had a better defense and offense than U.S.C. and won the BCS championship with the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation. You cite UF losing to Ole Miss but Oregon St shut down USC's offense.

No way U.S.C.beats UF last year. Perhaps in 06 but not last year. You would be hard pressed to find very many of your own fellow posters who would agree with your position.
 
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Mr. Two Bits said:
Very weak position. The only teams that come close were Oklahoma and UF you say...and Florida beat Oklahoma by 10. UF is loaded with 5 star athletes and had a better defense and offense than U.S.C. and won the BCS championship with the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation. You cite UF losing to Ole Miss but Oregon St shut down USC's offense.

No way U.S.C.beats UF last year. Perhaps in 06 but not last year. You would be hard pressed to find very many of your own fellow posters who would agree with your position.
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A better defense? You're just making jokes, right?

You'll find few who would have wagered on UF, even though they would have been a dog.
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#44
Mr. Two Bits said:
Very weak position. The only teams that come close were Oklahoma and UF you say...and Florida beat Oklahoma by 10. UF is loaded with 5 star athletes and had a better defense and offense than U.S.C. and won the BCS championship with the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation. You cite UF losing to Ole Miss but Oregon St shut down USC's offense.

No way U.S.C.beats UF last year. Perhaps in 06 but not last year. You would be hard pressed to find very many of your own fellow posters who would agree with your position.
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First off, strength of schedule is a total BS statistic. It can't be accurately calculated and opinion drives it more than anything else. Second, saying Florida had a better defense than USC last year proves the fact that you are a blinded homer of the first order.

And just because many of my fellow posters wouldn't agree with me doesn't make it any less true.
 
#45
#45
wow.

OR florida did not want to risk losing another game in years where it both had an easy schedule and were already favorites in being the main championship contenders
 
#47
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rjd970 said:
First off, strength of schedule is a total BS statistic. It can't be accurately calculated and opinion drives it more than anything else. Second, saying Florida had a better defense than USC last year proves the fact that you are a blinded homer of the first order.
And just because many of my fellow posters wouldn't agree with me doesn't make it any less true.
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If strength of schedue is a BS statistic then why aren't the Utahs, BYU's, and Tulanes of the world winning National Championships?
 
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Mr. Two Bits said:
If strength of schedue is a BS statistic then why aren't the Utahs, BYU's, and Tulanes of the world winning National Championships?
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First because they play in conferences that don't get automatic bids. Second, just because the BCS uses it doesn't give it legitimacy. I guess you think the SOS argument was good enough to steal the NC from Auburn in 2003? At the very least, they should have had the opportunity to play for it and instead we had to witness a blowout by USC because the "computers" declared Oklahoma had a stronger SOS. Yes, by your defense here, Oklahoma was obviously better than Auburn. :crazy:

It is laughable that you first declare a statistic based on opponents opponents and common opponents with inherent biases towards the major conferences as an accurate representation as to how good a team is...but then you follow it up with saying USC didn't have a better defense than Florida last year.

And you're saying my position is weak?
 
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