If H.t.p. Means Business, Buzz Is Gone

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TBALLVOL

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Haslam and Thornton did not become successful business men by making emotional decisions. Every reason to keep Buzz appears to be based on emotion. Pilot Oil would be a greasy spot on the tarmac if Haslam made decisions that way. Since leadership is influence I would imagine that Haslam, Thornton, and Peterson (John, The President) would influence Hamilton to make a quality business decision. No sound business plan could justify keeping a coach who has a losing record over 4 years at close to $1,000,000 a year and consider hiring a past successful div. 1 coach to come in and coach the coach. You don't hire Donald Trump to make an apprentice a success, you just hire the Donald or one better. As the Trumpmiester would say, "Buzz, your fired!". Furthermore, sound business says that you do not repeat the same mistakes. If we have failed, we need to fail forward. To go out and take the gamble of getting another up-and-comer like Buzz would be insanity. As a matter of fact, that is the definition of insanity- continuing to repeat the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome. Good business will insist that UT go out and buy a proven and consistent WINNER. Sorry Buzz, it's just not about you, It's about the success of the Business. It's about the success of UT.
 
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Originally posted by TBALLVOL@Mar 3, 2005 1:38 PM
As a matter of fact, that is the definition of insanity- continuing to repeat the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome.
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Well darn it, all along I thought insanity was trying to cut the microchip out of your abdomen which the government had secretly placed after tranquilizing you, only to fail, get stuck in a room with padded walls for you to bang your head against, and, since your hands are bound, resign to "take care of business" by rubbing up and down against the linen cart.
 
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yeah ...but Buzz did sound kinda crazy after the meeting......sounded like he didn't have control of his team or the basketball program.....he seemed lost!!!!!
 
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Here are a couple of quotes from Buzz......


"I'm going to take a more aggressive stand than I have in the past," he said. "I'm going to expect more from players, to coaches; to be more demanding. I'm going to be tougher in different areas."

Recruiting is one area where Peterson promised to take a more "hands-on approach."

"I personally need to take a more active role," he said. "It's very important that I be involved in that, and I am, but I need to pick up on some areas that need to be done.

Sounds like he is just figuring this out...... :banghead:
 
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Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Mar 3, 2005 1:45 PM
Well darn it, all along I thought insanity was trying to cut the microchip out of your abdomen which the government had secretly placed after tranquilizing you, only to fail, get stuck in a room with padded walls for you to bang your head against, and, since your hands are bound, resign to "take care of business" by rubbing up and down against the linen cart.
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:lol: Oh how I miss the good ole days........
 
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If it boils down to money Buzz stays 1 more year. If UT fires Buzz this year they'll pay out over 4 mil next year to ex coaches.
 
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Will it be that much money. I say don't keep him another year. What good will it bring. There are more positives from him being fired then him staying.
 
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Originally posted by TNVOLS1@Mar 3, 2005 6:32 PM
If it boils down to money Buzz stays 1 more year. If UT fires Buzz this year they'll pay out over 4 mil next year to ex coaches.
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I think you're right. Economics are probably the deciding factor here. Wins and losses are important, but it's tough to justify paying that many people who don't even work for you anymore.
 
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Plus nobody seems to be considering that Buzz's worst year would probably be about the same as that inevitable "transition year" that most new coaches always go through.
 
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Didn't you all read that posted article talking about our men's basketball revenue? We pull in 10 million a year and that is just our men's program. Kentucky pulls in 12 million and they are always in the hunt.

If we make that much a year off of men's basketball.......money shouldn't matter. They have barely spent any paying Buzz for years. So what is the next problem with a new coach?
 
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Doesn't really matter what the revenue is . . . the argument is still the same.

I never said that I wasn't for a change. I'm just giving some reasons why I don't think it will happen.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Mar 3, 2005 9:34 PM
Doesn't really matter what the revenue is . . . the argument is still the same.

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I am not sure that I follow that. Do you mean that we will still have pay all of these coaches or something else?
 
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What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter if your revenues are $2 million or $20 million - it's hard to justify the practice of continually buying out contracts. You're wasting a lot of resources - and were not talking about small amounts of money here.
 
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Ok then, I get what you are saying. No we aren't talking about small amounts of money. Just think about how much money they would have to squander if they were able to pull off some winning seasons with some trips to the tourney though. I guess what I am getting at is, sometimes you have spend money to make money.

I hate that money is this big of a deal in college sports, but it is and there is nothing anyone can do about it. :bad:
 
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I still think you have to answer this question:

How many coaches can you name in the SEC that are worse than Buzz? (keep in mind he is the third highest paid in the league).

If you think he is a top 5 SEC coach then we should keep him. Otherwise....
 
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He should go BUT, he will not. The financial end of it will keep him here until the contract runs out. After all, how important is basketball to the Admin. at UT? :dunno:
 
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I dunno about you guys, but I think it would be a great testament to UT athletics to be great in three major sports.
 
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Here is a question to ponder regarding financials.... How much longer will UT allow the program to play .500 ball in front of an empty arena? I would say that if the next coach upgrades the program and puts fannies in the seats, the revenue generated by the additional fans would more than compensate for the small amount required to pay ex-coaches.

These are probably some of the things that are bounced around in meetings in Hamilton's office. You can't just look at the cost of buying out Buzz's contract... you also have to look at all the lost revenue and when do you stop the bleeding. :dunno:
 
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How much does increased revenue play into it though? Don't all the SEC schools have to share revenue?
 
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