If it hurts us this bad

#26
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Shoot, I’m indifferent to it now. Tennessee losing in big moments has kinda become our creed.

I was shocked when we came out and dominated the Aggies and won the SECT. That, to me, was just as important a championship as the NCAAT.

If you ain’t used to losing, though, you ain’t been wearing orange long enough 😆
 
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There are certain matchups that line up with a bad night that end like this. Michigan had eight top 100 players. They have hot nights when they are unbeatable. They had long athletic guys on the outside and dared us to beat them with a midrange game. We don’t have one. We shot 11% from 3. It’s a heartbreaker for the kids. Whether KC goes pro or not, I feel for that kid being forced to deal with pressure he isn’t ready for. You could see how much he loves being here. The money will probably call him up, but I’d love to see him get another year to be a kid playing college basketball with this team.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
What I learned today is that I absolutely hate March and wish we could just skip from February straight to April every year. It would save me a lot of pain.
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At least we’re not skipping from February to November anymore (when talking football and basketball). We actually have something to believe in on the football side. Don’t forget our Basevols though. They’re very good.
 
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We had significant advantages in points off turnovers, fast break points, and points in the paint, and also in bench points. We held our own on the boards, and played physical basketball. In other words, we played well enough to have won the game. James, Vescovi, and Zeigler go a combined 1-15 from 3. That’s basketball. It happens. 67 of 68 teams will go home feeling very disappointed. This ending isn’t unique to Barnes or our players. Great season, great young men.
 
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Volizona said:
Imagine how bad it hurts they players. Can’t imagine how hard this is for them. They played their hearts out, but the shots just didn’t drop today. Great season, great group of guys. Well done. The SEC title was nice.
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I agree...really good season, not great. Probably bad example, but similar to UGA in football...keep plowing ahead and improving, and we'll eventually break thru...Barnes deserves a title before he retires.
 
#32
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Volizona said:
Imagine how bad it hurts they players. Can’t imagine how hard this is for them. They played their hearts out, but the shots just didn’t drop today. Great season, great group of guys. Well done. The SEC title was nice.
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I told my brother that no matter what happens in the ncaa tournament we have still had a great year. Any time we beat Kentucky twice Auburn, and LSUs cheating asses and win the Sec tournament in the same season I am happy with the season. Sure I would like to win the ncaa or have made a deeper run in it but I refuse to let one game in one tournament decide my feelings on a great season. This team really came together and provided some great basketball for us all.
 
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I think the issue for me is that it is embarrassing. We lost to an 11 seed, 14 loss team. We have never made a Final Four. Tennessee gets these monkeys on their back and won't lose them. Florida in football is our monkey in that sport. It is just inexplicable and embarrassing situations.
 
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njvols said:
I agree...really good season, not great. Probably bad example, but similar to UGA in football...keep plowing ahead and improving, and we'll eventually break thru...Barnes deserves a title before he retires.
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Barnes does not "deserve" anything. If he can't earn it he doesn't deserve it. He gets knocked out by Loyola and now an 18-14 team who was debatable should even get in. If he earns it he'll get it...but based on his career failure in the tourney it's highly unlikely he ever will.
 
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djohnnyg said:
Why? Sure it sucked to not get a deserved higher seed but we played an 18-14 team. Not Gonzaga. Are we really complaining about having to.play a team that was barely over .500?
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Do you really follow college basketball? Are you actually aware of the talent on that Michigan roster? This was another 3-seed type team masquerading as an 11 seed.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I think the issue for me is that it is embarrassing. We lost to an 11 seed, 14 loss team. We have never made a Final Four. Tennessee gets these monkeys on their back and won't lose them. Florida in football is our monkey in that sport. It is just inexplicable and embarrassing situations.
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We lost to a preseason top ten team that took a long time to find their groove. Their fans were crying and howling a month ago. Today they love their coach. Our team has a heavy dependence on ball movement and cutting to get threes. This is the first Barnes team to accept the statistical reality that mid range jumpers payback much less than threes. The bad news is, Michigan didn’t give us the lane or the three, and we had our worst three point shooting night of the year. We had no backup plan. JJJ lost his shot at both levels. Santi couldn’t see the rim. Oddly my one beef with Barnes is he doesn’t sub based on flow. He is highly disciplined with minutes. Last night he froze in that pattern, even when BHH hit a streak (mid range), we pulled him.
Chandler, JJJ and Santi all played 38 minutes. We were in better shape than Michigan by far. The TV timeouts and playing those three too much, killed our conditioning advantage. Brooks hit 100% of his shots in the second half. We were too tired and flat footed to cover him. Perfect storm. I love the team. I love the coach. Bad night.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
We lost to a preseason top ten team that took a long time to find their groove. Their fans were crying and howling a month ago. Today they love their coach. Our team has a heavy dependence on ball movement and cutting to get threes. This is the first Barnes team to accept the statistical reality that mid range jumpers payback much less than threes. The bad news is, Michigan didn’t give us the lane or the three, and we had our worst three point shooting night of the year. We had no backup plan. JJJ lost his shot at both levels. Santi couldn’t see the rim. Oddly my one beef with Barnes is he doesn’t sub based on flow. He is highly disciplined with minutes. Last night he froze in that pattern, even when BHH hit a streak (mid range), we pulled him.
Chandler, JJJ and Santi all played 38 minutes. We were in better shape than Michigan by far. The TV timeouts and playing those three too much, killed our conditioning advantage. Brooks hit 100% of his shots in the second half. We were too tired and flat footed to cover him. Perfect storm. I love the team. I love the coach. Bad night.
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Yes. Michigan is far, far better than a 14 loss, #11 seed. That said, they likely get destroyed in their next game versus Nova or tosu.
 
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For all those that are having a tough time rationalizing the loss, then thst is what makes message boards a community where you can get your feelings off your chest.

The expectations were high for this team. If the game was 45 minutes instead of 40 then we are probably the winner. This game was back and forth. The team with the most points at the 40 minute mark won. I think at the 35 minute mark we were winning. A team like this you don't expect to blow a lead. Mistakes and rebounds cost us down the stretch.

As much as I hate saying it, give Michigan credit. That's very hard to do sometimes when we just want to point to our team for losing.
 
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BreatheUT said:
For all those that are having a tough time rationalizing the loss, then thst is what makes message boards a community where you can get your feelings off your chest.

The expectations were high for this team. If the game was 45 minutes instead of 40 then we are probably the winner. This game was back and forth. The team with the most points at the 40 minute mark won. I think at the 35 minute mark we were winning. A team like this you don't expect to blow a lead. Mistakes and rebounds cost us down the stretch.

As much as I hate saying it, give Michigan credit. That's very hard to do sometimes when we just want to point to our team for losing.
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Not sure I agree with this; they were pretty much pulling away. The momentum shift happened at the 7:30 mark when we had the ball up 6 and Chandler turned it over. We only got the lead once after that and it was only momentarily. We had them on the brink of wilting and we let them punch back and we never recovered.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Yes. Michigan is far, far better than a 14 loss, #11 seed. That said, they likely get destroyed in their next game versus Nova or tosu.
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I agree, Villanova or OSU look significantly better than Michigan, who easily played their best game of the season. They hit a lot of circus shots they won't hit next game and should be eliminated.
 
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Volnation before the game: Michigan sucks! They should not have made the tournament. 17-14 is not deserving. I hate their thug coach. He sucks as a coach, too.

Volnation after the game: Committee sucks! How dare they make us play a team as good as Michigan in the second round.
 
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ZZ13 said:
Volnation before the game: Michigan sucks! They should not have made the tournament. 17-14 is not deserving. I hate their thug coach. He sucks as a coach, too.

Volnation after the game: Committee sucks! How dare they make us play a team as good as Michigan in the second round.
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Not everyone was saying they sucked, in fact several said it was a bad matchup. But I think I generally agree with the vibe of your post. We lost because we wilted, plain and simple. We had them on the ropes even with us not playing that great and we let them come back. We straight up folded in the final 7 minutes.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Not sure I agree with this; they were pretty much pulling away. The momentum shift happened at the 7:30 mark when we had the ball up 6 and Chandler turned it over. We only got the lead once after that and it was only momentarily. We had them on the brink of wilting and we let them punch back and we never recovered.
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They weren't pulling away. They pulled away at the end when we were in desperation mode. Heck as you mentioned we were up 6. It could be argued we were pulling away until we weren't.
 
#46
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VolsSportsFan said:
Not everyone was saying they sucked, in fact several said it was a bad matchup. But I think I generally agree with the vibe of your post. We lost because we wilted, plain and simple. We had them on the ropes even with us not playing that great and we let them come back. We straight up folded in the final 7 minutes.
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That missed 3 when we were up 60-54 turned out to be huge. Sink that and I think we would've rode that momentum to the win.
 
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BreatheUT said:
They weren't pulling away. They pulled away at the end when we were in desperation mode. Heck as you mentioned we were up 6. It could be argued we were pulling away until we weren't.
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I mean it's pretty much a silly argument anyway because it's not a 45 minute game so it doesn't matter, but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes, that's my point, after that turnover we were never the same. We had plenty of time to recover and in 7 minutes we didn't. I don't thinking adding 5 more minutes was going to change that by that point.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I mean it's pretty much a silly argument anyway because it's not a 45 minute game so it doesn't matter, but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes, that's my point, after that turnover we were never the same. We had plenty of time to recover and in 7 minutes we didn't. I don't thinking adding 5 more minutes was going to change that by that point.
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I agree the game is 40 minutes. Hindsight being 20/20. I wonder how much a bigger lineup would've helped. I don't know. I will be asking questions for a while about what happened. Possibly just the lack of execution or better execution by Michigan at critical times.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I agree the game is 40 minutes. Hindsight being 20/20. I wonder how much a bigger lineup would've helped. I don't know. I will be asking questions for a while about what happened. Possibly just the lack of execution or better execution by Michigan at critical times.
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There's obviously no way I can prove it, but I will forever believe that had we scored on that trip instead of turning it over that we would have won. It was just one of those moments you can't explain but when it happened you just felt it was bad.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
There's obviously no way I can prove it, but I will forever believe that had we scored on that trip instead of turning it over that we would have won. It was just one of those moments you can't explain but when it happened you just felt it was bad.
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I think we all knew that was a critical possession. I can't bring myself to watch again, but I am sure it was right after a timeout. It was one of those plays that possibly changed the outcome. It seemed fairly unprovoked as well.
 
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