if John McCain would have won...

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#26
trevols81 said:
I'm not disagreeing with you but what do you base this statement on?
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The fact that he wouldnt scare the crap out of people to the point that they just sit on their hands and wait for this Admin to wash out in 2012. Obama cant get in front of a TV without talking trash about businesses. Just google "Boeing Obama" and you will see his clueless admin at work. I am not even going to mention Gulf of Mexico drilling, that alone would support half a million jobs
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
The fact that he wouldnt scare the crap out of people to the point that they just sit on their hands and wait for this Admin to wash out in 2012. Obama cant get in front of a TV without talking trash about businesses. Just google "Boeing Obama" and you will see his clueless admin at work. I am not even going to mention Gulf of Mexico drilling, that alone would support half a million jobs
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I can't argue with that.
 
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Billy Costigan said:
Do you think he would have gotten Bin Laden like Obama did?
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Obama didn't get Bin Laden, the CIA and JSOC just continued their mission.

The only thing Obama did was listen to his military and intel leaders when things changed in Pakistan and we had better opportunities to do more work there.
 
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BelAirVol said:
You shouldn't be so sure. Obama stepped up our presence in Pakistan ten-fold. We've already killed more Al-Quaeda people there during the last two years than the previous administration did in 7 years. The POTUS certainly has more to do with covert ops than gas prices in that he has the ability to steer stategy to certain regions.

There is no way to know if things would be different under McCain as far as anything else goes though. Whoever was elected POTUS was going to behind the eight ball on the economy from the start
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He only stepped up our presence because the opportunity presented. Prior to Bhuto's killing, the Pakis wouldn't let us do hardly anything, but after that they realized they needed us more than ever.
 
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YorkVol said:
Obama didn't get Bin Laden, the CIA and JSOC just continued their mission.

The only thing Obama did was listen to his military and intel leaders when things changed in Pakistan and we had better opportunities to do more work there.
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Wrong. O's "gutsy call" got OBL.
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If algore would have gotten in think of how things might have been better. we would at the very least had a check and balance and not one party rule
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YorkVol said:
He only stepped up our presence because the opportunity presented. Prior to Bhuto's killing, the Pakis wouldn't let us do hardly anything, but after that they realized they needed us more than ever.
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During the campaign , obama said he would send troops into Pakistan if intel said Bin Laden was there.. McCain said he would not .
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Billy Costigan said:
do you think we would be better off today?
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Marginally. He wouldn't have passed Obamacare. He probably wouldn't have been as radical with regulation interpretation/enforcement.

However he probably would have joined Dems in Congress to pass bail outs and "stimulus packages".

I doubt he would have gotten us deeper into Afghanistan. He would have taken a lead on Libya.
 
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nbakerld said:
We don't really know either way...and how would we even know if the call was "gutsy"?
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Didn't have to send ground troops in. If it went wrong the political and international fallout would have been huge. Lest we forget, he violated airspace and sent troops into a sovereign country without their permission.

FWIW, I agree with the call. Just saying, he had other options, what he chose was pretty gutsy IMO.
 
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