If no death penalty for UM....

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If these allegations hold true and Miami doesn't get the death penalty, the NCAA might as well remove it from the rule book. Seems many people don't think they will get it, but how could you not apply that penalty if said allegations are true? I know when they gave it to SMU it destroyed the program, conference, local economy, etc., but this is way worse than SMU. I do feel bad for Al Golden though. I think he's a good coach that got unknowingly pulled into a bad situation. Thoughts on what will happen?
 
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Why do people assume the death penalty has to be used?

It's like advocating for dropping another nuclear bomb just because we've got one sitting around. You saw what happened the first time.
 
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I didn't say it had to be used, but it's in the rulebook. My question is, if this doesn't constituent it, what does?
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MemphisCanes said:
Why do people assume the death penalty has to be used?

It's like advocating for dropping another nuclear bomb just because we've got one sitting around. You saw what happened the first time.
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death penalty or not. If we get double of what USC got we are in for some very long dark days. 10 yrs is a very long time to recover if they can even do that.

I think it will be even worse then double what USC got. Bounties on players, prostitutes and abortions. The only thing missing seems to be murder
 
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A comment that was made 100 times in the other 3 or 4 Miami threads deserves its own thread?
 
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I dont think that most people understand what the "death penalty" was for SMU.

It was only a 1-1/2 year penalty as it was originally used.

1 year with NO football. (1987 - conditioning only, no pads)
1 year with NO HOME GAMES (1988 - SMU decided to scrap the whole season)

Loss of 55 scholarships over 4 years.

They did not field a full squad until 1992.

also:
Since 1989 SMU has defeated only 2 ranked teams, has had only 2 winning seasons, and is 64–158–3.[8] The Mustangs would not return to a bowl game until 2009; they won the 2009 Hawaiʻi Bowl on December 24, 2009 over Nevada by a score of 45–10. The death penalty decimated the Southwest Conference's reputation and finances, contributing to the collapse of the entire conference in 1996.
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I got this all from wiki:
Death penalty (NCAA) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I cannot believe I am even close to defending the U, but a complete and total death penalty is not a relevant punishment. I think a 4-6 year MAJOR reduction of schollys is a very harsh punishment. The removal of a couple recruiting classes would put this program to it's knees.

Not all of those who are left in the program deserve that, but there are many who do, and that is usually not the case in these situations.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Why do people assume the death penalty has to be used?

It's like advocating for dropping another nuclear bomb just because we've got one sitting around. You saw what happened the first time.
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some people just want to see a program burn solely for the lolz, unfortunately
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We essentially want to nuke the ACC to facilitate the 24 team SUPER-SEC we are building.

Miami not invited.
 
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GatorBill said:
I dont think that most people understand what the "death penalty" was for SMU.

It was only a 1-1/2 year penalty as it was originally used.

1 year with NO football. (1987 - conditioning only, no pads)
1 year with NO HOME GAMES (1988 - SMU decided to scrap the whole season)

Loss of 55 scholarships over 4 years.

They did not field a full squad until 1992.

also:

I got this all from wiki:
Death penalty (NCAA) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I cannot believe I am even close to defending the U, but a complete and total death penalty is not a relevant punishment. I think a 4-6 year MAJOR reduction of schollys is a very harsh punishment. The removal of a couple recruiting classes would put this program to it's knees.

Not all of those who are left in the program deserve that, but there are many who do, and that is usually not the case in these situations.
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And - really worth note - every single player at SMU or player recruited was allowed to transfer to another school and play immediately....(like other school representatives were allowed on to the SMU campus to talk/sell to those players as soon as the could get there)

They burned that program to the ground...and probably salted some of the land too
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What Ohio State did was peanuts compared to Miami. what USC did was peanuts compared to Miami. Miami can claim the true championship of the cheating world here.
they are bonafide belt wearing champions. I would agree that if they do not get closed down for a year or two, then they (NCAA) should remove the rule from the book.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Why do people assume the death penalty has to be used?

It's like advocating for dropping another nuclear bomb just because we've got one sitting around. You saw what happened the first time.
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The U has always embraced this outlaw thug image, now let them reap the whirlwind. Screw the U.
 
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On one hand it pisses me off and I want to see them get the death penalty but that also punishes those who did no wrong at the school and the community. Make no mistake if you advocate giving the program the death penalty, you are also advocating giving that community who depends on revenue from the football program a gut punch.
 
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I believe the ncaa should just start to fine schools. Miami in this instance 1 or 2 million. The reason i say this is the 80 or 90 percent of the kids that had nothing to do with it and the other teams in the confrence should not suffer. Just kick out the kids that did and staff and fine the school. By fining the school big time they have no other choice than to make shure nothing happens. He'll even fine the coaches, say half their salary.
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bop_rocco said:
I believe the ncaa should just start to fine schools. Miami in this instance 1 or 2 million. The reason i say this is the 80 or 90 percent of the kids that had nothing to do with it and the other teams in the confrence should not suffer. Just kick out the kids that did and staff and fine the school. By fining the school big time they have no other choice than to make shure nothing happens. He'll even fine the coaches, say half their salary.
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:yes: Exactly! Don't punish all of the innocent because of a few guilty. Harsh punishment should be given for whatever turns out to be true and to who deserves it.
 
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DaddyChad said:
On one hand it pisses me off and I want to see them get the death penalty but that also punishes those who did no wrong at the school and the community. Make no mistake if you advocate giving the program the death penalty, you are also advocating giving that community who depends on revenue from the football program a gut punch.
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Unfortunately, as with any punishment, wether it be within college athletics or the judiciary system, there will be innocent casualties.

The guilty shoulders the blame for any negative consequence, not the ruling authority.

You can't let the guilty hide behind the innocent.
 
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DaddyChad said:
On one hand it pisses me off and I want to see them get the death penalty but that also punishes those who did no wrong at the school and the community. Make no mistake if you advocate giving the program the death penalty, you are also advocating giving that community who depends on revenue from the football program a gut punch.
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I understand your argument, but in this particular case, the effects on the community would be nearly negligible. To say that Miami/Coral Gables/Ft. Lauderdale would be punched in the gut from a season or two without THE U football is a bit of a reach imo.
 
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mtowntim said:
unfortunately, as with any punishment, wether it be within college athletics or the judiciary system, there will be innocent casualties.

The guilty shoulders the blame for any negative consequence, not the ruling authority.

You can't let the guilty hide behind the innocent.
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qft
 
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