If no death penalty for UM....

#26
#26
The death penalty is stupid and I really don't think it will be applied, for all the saints we have on this board calling for it I'm sure it makes you feel better.

Now if the AA really wanted to do something to a school caught with their pants down and get others attention. Give the coaches, administrators and all the way up to the schools president a 10 plus year show cause. If the HC, AD all the way up to the president could be held accountable this mess would stop.

When people start losing jobs others will pay attention.
 
#27
#27
I think double secret probation would suffice...
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#28
#28
tvolsfan said:
This is NOT worse than SMU.
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You don't know that.

SMU players with the consent of coaches and members of the board of governors by boosters through a slush fund for almost (or over, I can't remember) 10 years.

Miami players were paid with the consent of SOME coaches..the level of knowledge beyond that has yet to be determined--but again, for almost 10 years.

The biggest difference so far is that SMU athletics admin knew about the payments, were involved in the decisions, and endorsed the payments.

Who knows how far this reaches with the U.
 
#29
#29
tvolsfan said:
This is NOT worse than SMU.
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Other than the coaches being directly involved in the actual payments, I don't think this is any less egregious that what SMU did. In many regards it is much worse(e.g. prostitutes). No coach would be stupid enough to be directly involved in the payment...that will never happen again, not in this day and age. Schools should not be punished any less just because they have gotten better at not being caught or directly linked.
 
#30
#30
IF the a allegations are substantiated (I suspect some of them will be ), then I expect a "modified death penalty"...
No home games for one year.
No TV for 2-3 years (SIDE NOTE: this will effect Big East television contracts and will influence conference alignments - think VT)
Significant reduction of schollys.
5 years probation
Mandated internal and external audits with reports to the NCAA

It's still going to be really, really ugly.....

The other side of this will be good for Miami (and college football). There will be a culture change and the U will shed it's Thug U image. That will be a good thing.
 
#31
#31
TennGentry said:
If these allegations hold true and Miami doesn't get the death penalty, the NCAA might as well remove it from the rule book. Seems many people don't think they will get it, but how could you not apply that penalty if said allegations are true? I know when they gave it to SMU it destroyed the program, conference, local economy, etc., but this is way worse than SMU. I do feel bad for Al Golden though. I think he's a good coach that got unknowingly pulled into a bad situation. Thoughts on what will happen?
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cuz of what it did to SMU and how it killed that program for decades

no UM fan or former player needs to suffer thru that 1 decade or 5 yrs of being terrible is bad enough imo
 
#33
#33
east10ecVol said:
IF the a allegations are substantiated (I suspect some of them will be ), then I expect a "modified death penalty"...
No home games for one year.
No TV for 2-3 years (SIDE NOTE: this will effect Big East television contracts and will influence conference alignments - think VT)
Significant reduction of schollys.
5 years probation
Mandated internal and external audits with reports to the NCAA

It's still going to be really, really ugly.....

The other side of this will be good for Miami (and college football). There will be a culture change and the U will shed it's Thug U image. That will be a good thing.
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I agree. The culture at Miami needs to change, first and foremost.

Miami hasn't played in the Big East for 10 years though.
 
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#35
orangeblood79 said:
You don't know that.

SMU players with the consent of coaches and members of the board of governors by boosters through a slush fund for almost (or over, I can't remember) 10 years.

Miami players were paid with the consent of SOME coaches..the level of knowledge beyond that has yet to be determined--but again, for almost 10 years.

The biggest difference so far is that SMU athletics admin knew about the payments, were involved in the decisions, and endorsed the payments.

Who knows how far this reaches with the U.
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Volfan76 said:
Other than the coaches being directly involved in the actual payments, I don't think this is any less egregious that what SMU did. In many regards it is much worse(e.g. prostitutes). No coach would be stupid enough to be directly involved in the payment...that will never happen again, not in this day and age. Schools should not be punished any less just because they have gotten better at not being caught or directly linked.
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There's a big difference between some coaches knowing and the athletic director mailing paychecks to the players after already receiving sanctions that made USC's sanctions look like a slap on the wrist.
 
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