If only she had a clue!

#26
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Ladyvolfan4ever said:
It would've been really ardor Diamond or Tea to hit a shot during aTm run because they were on the bench. Come on people I for one am proud to have Diamond as a member of our team.
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Thank you! They act like we can do without her. No Diamond equals no Te'a, could you imagine our team without either of those two (and Jasmine being out like she is now)? We are barely scoring 60 points in most games, we would be lucky to have 10 win without those 2 (3 if you include Jasmine)
 
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They win a road game by 18 points, only commit 11 turnovers, and win the rebounding battle by 12, and people still *****. Truly unbelievable.
 
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Wouldn't it be something special if, some how, the Lady Vols could beat USC Monday night?

The four remaining games after USC are All very winnable.

Getting into the Top Four in the SEC standings would be really nice, and it is possible.
 
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mlindsay said:
Which boils down to coaching! Geno players know their system (and he lets them play within his system) what system/style of play have Holly created that has shown success? In the beginning we had to get it in the post at all cost? Now it's we have to be aggressive and attack. Us losing leads is on the part of coach, he poor substitution choices and things of that nature hurts the team. Geno's player know their role and they do what their role requires them to do, none of them do what their roles isn't asking of them to do. Everyone also knows Stewie is the star and the play as such. Reynolds still doesn't know her role, neither does Carter, neither does Diamond and the list goes on and one. You have 2 to 3 players in your starting lineup who rarely look to score (Graves, Reynolds, and Carter) and you can't have that. Tuck finds her spots and goes to work, so does Jefferson, and so does Stewie and their teammates don't just stand around watching them work. They get in position to help out. Diamond isn't given the chance to go to work because she is being micromanged by Holly to do xy&z, nor is cooper, nor is Russell, or Nared (all who aren't afraid to score). I'm starting to truly think that Holly wants to be the star of this team and it is hurting us. Dunbar lights it up and doesn't play any more. Diamond makes a great play and the look on Holly face is like wtf is she doing, I could go on and on. Until we have a "system/identity" which all the great teams have right now, we will continue to free fall
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Having watched UCONN far longer than I have watched the Lady Vols, I agree with everything here. But the "chance" Diamond would be given at UCONN would, I believe, be far different than escaping the micromanagement of a challenged coach. Neither Diamond, nor Cooper, nor Russell would get off the bench at UCONN unless they changed their ways considerably. For Diamond and Cooper that would mean 1) being team players first and foremost (not passing to certain team members who are open wouldn't be tolerated; no pouting, etc.); 2) always playing with intensity on both offense and defense; and 3) not continuing to make the same mistakes over and over again. For Russell, well, it would mean #2 + a lot more toughness among other things. If they bought in, the improvement would be, I think, stunning. But that's a big "if." I actually could imagine that might happen with Russell. With Tea I'm not so sure, but I think the odds are that there would be epic battles between Diamond and Geno and she'd likely end up transferring.
 
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Ladyvolfan4ever said:
It would've been really ardor Diamond or Tea to hit a shot during aTm run because they were on the bench. Come on people I for one am proud to have Diamond as a member of our team.
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That was not a dig at Diamond or Tea per se (hence the anyone). By the way, Diamond was definitely on the floor a the end of the Texas A&M game and during the OT.

But if you look at my past posts, you will see i have been consistently pro-Diamond.
 
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Parker's injury her freshman year cost us a title and Hornbuckle's injury in 2006 cost us a FF birth. The Parker era, when healthy, did what they were supposed to do.
 
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Chris89128 said:
They win a road game by 18 points, only commit 11 turnovers, and win the rebounding battle by 12, and people still *****. Truly unbelievable.
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I've been as critical of Holly as anyone but I have to agree with this. I'm not sure how anyone could be disappointed with last night's effort. For one game anyway, Holly looked like a coach...
 
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Chris89128 said:
They win a road game by 18 points, only commit 11 turnovers, and win the rebounding battle by 12, and people still *****. Truly unbelievable.
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They beat Vanderbilt don't act like it was UConn, Note Dame or someone good. You Holly worshippers will take anything and try and to spin it into a positive. Don't worry, I'm sure all of you will get your wish and this half-ass "coach" will still be there next year. Mediocrity must be blissful since some of you don't mind wallowing in it.
 
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The elephant and it's baby in the room are chemistry and coaching. I live in Maryland not in Knoxville, but those who do and can get close enough to the team or have kids at UT that can get close to the team, I bet you will see a bunch of young ladies that don't like each other very much. I've said it before and I will say it again, chemistry issues at the college level are hard to fix because it's a matter of personalities not liking each other and they are not mature enough yet to put it aside.

The coaching has to do a better job of coaching to it's talent since they don't have a proven and winning system. Geno has a system. Pat had a system. Nick Saban has a system. They plug their players into the system and they win. Until Warlick has a system, she has to coach to the talent she has and if they are being running, then let them run. She needs to be able coach this team to their strengths and make adjustments as the game progresses.

IMO, don't get overly excited about the Vandy win because Vandy is not at the level of SC and other top 10 teams in the country with similar talent as the Lady Vols.
 
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My only point was they played a very good all around game, and there is still a thread to criticize last night's win
 
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Chris89128 said:
They win a road game by 18 points, only commit 11 turnovers, and win the rebounding battle by 12, and people still *****. Truly unbelievable.
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This game proves that they can play well. Why don't they? What is missing that explains why they have the talent to beat some very good teams yet lose to far inferior teams. Is it coaching? Is it a lack of motivation? Is it poor X's and O's.

If they beat SC some will say it shows that we should keep Holly. In my opinion, if we beat SC it will show why Holly needs to go.
 
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When I read the first posts on this thread (having not watched the game) I rushed over to another site to see what the score was, because we had obviously blown it again in girls' BB. Imagine my surprise to see a pretty wide open win, albeit against a crappy team. I suppose the lack of "Faaahr Holly" posts should have clued me in that we at least didn't suffer further humiliation. This is a pretty sad sack season, though, I think a change is probably necessary.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Wouldn't it be something special if, some how, the Lady Vols could beat USC Monday night?

The four remaining games after USC are All very winnable.

Getting into the Top Four in the SEC standings would be really nice, and it is possible.
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It would be a very special win and I would enjoy every minute of it. Do we have the talent to win this game?? Absolutely!! If they can keep the turnovers under 12 and get their fair share of offensive rebounds, then I think they can win the game.

I think they will get a 4-6 seed in the SEC tournament. I think the 6 seeding gives them the best and easiest path to the SEC tournament final, plus it gives them an extra game. A four or five seed puts them with SC. We will know more about their chances with SC in the SEC tourny after we play them monday night..
 
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Chris89128 said:
My only point was they played a very good all around game, and there is still a thread to criticize last night's win
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Considering they played at Vandy, where they have always had issues with shooting the ball there, I am very impressed with their 18 point win. It's even more astonishing considering they were like 0-12 from three point line. Great win ladies!!
 
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NoBackBoard said:
PG play is a huge issue with this team. We have no true pg. Carter dribbles looking down, never shoots and has no court vision.

Reynolds will shoot but misses a lot; however, she turns the ball over less than other guards.

No true pg is killing the team. We have to coach up Cooper or Middleton to play that position bc Reynolds and Carter are NOT the answer. We have the worst pg play in the league.
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I agree pg is a big problem, Looking at the class 2017 there are some very good ones ready to play.
 
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I think with any other coach Cooper would be putting up better numbers and have a better understanding of her role. She is starting to get it and is rapidly improving her game maybe she will reach her potential with Holly or maybe we'll get another coach that will give her the coaching she needs.
 
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I'm pretty sure this team as a whole has no chemistry, Instead of trying to pin chemistry problems on DeShields if you were actually paying close attention then you would actually realize that the main reason this team doesn't have any chemistry with each other is because of substitutions and rotations like the OP and another poster have already pointed out. that is on coaching. if the players aren't on the floor long enough with each other of course they're not going to build any type of chemistry or be familiar with one another. i don't believe think this staff even knows players strengths and weaknesses and it's actually sad watching players looking lost and confused when they are on the floor. it's crazy how the head coach just now realized that they need to work on offense when that was what they should have been working on from the beginning. i'm still wondering what the heck this team does in "practice" and if they actually do watch film. when a player is playing well or when we finally found a rotation that is working the coach messes it up with her silly substitutions and whatever momentum they were building is out the window. the worst part is that she never learns and continues to do it every game. if players are actually playing well leave them out on the floor, only if they are in foul trouble, need rest, hurt/injured do you take them out. they only seem to have a problem when Diamond turns it over and they don't seem to care when the other players do it. she gets bashed for what everyone else is also doing. for example Reynolds had five turnover against A&M and four the game before that but they never mentioned it but i'm sure if it were Diamond they sure as heck won't let it go. the two veteran guards should not be getting any passes. they have not been impressive all season long and they are part of the reason why our guard play is non-existence. i do not want Cooper and Middleton going down that same route.
 
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The surest way to be taken out the game is to have a hot hand. There have been times I seriously considered if Holly was sabotaging the team. There is no way someone could be that clueless and if so, she honestly needs to schedule a check up.
 
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Sandvol said:
The trouble with Diamond is she isn't much of a team player when she's on the floor. Very little cohesiveness. We'd usually do better when she was out of the game. Athletic and talented for sure but she's all about me, me, me. That first starting five: Cooper, Nared, Reynolds, Russell or Graves and Carter are our best five to have in there. Middleton has been doing well when she subs in. Diamond does OK when she's not trying to be all. Dunbar doesn't turn the ball over. The only problem with Nared is she wants to be a guard. She rebounds the ball and dribbles it down the court. Get it to a guard!
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While I agree that Diamond has a lot of room for improvement, however, Holly is not the type of person that get players like Diamond under control she is just to nice. Diamond does not need a Mother Taresa, she needs a coach that is not scared of reading her the riot act. She needs a Father Genno type. A lot of our issues are coaching and coaching demeanor.

I think we spend far too much time blaming the players when we have a coach that lacks the ability to keep players under control. That is also in addition to making hair brain lineup changes. Diamond, like the other players need to be lead and not allowed to do as they want. The biggest issue is they are playing for a coach that does not have a clue as to how she rights a ship headed in the wrong direction. Right now we are just not in a good place.
 
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mlindsay said:
Watching last nights game against Vandy frustrated me a lot more than any other game we have played this season. I told myself while watching the game I am just going to watch the entire game without criticism and will watch it again when the game was over to find what the problem is. We all know Holly is the problem but last night showed that she just doesn't understand the players and what they can do for her and this team. It to me seems as though "she" (Holly) wants to be the star and the one who is talked about as the Savior of the program and get the same recognition that Pat got instead of allowing the players to play and she would be looked at as a great coach (even though she is not). The talent is clearly there. Last night I watched Diamond (although still pouting) play within the game (like Holly has asked her) and the same things happen, we seem to give it to her with a couple of seconds left on the shot clock and want her to make something happen, or when she is open she doesn't get the pass whether it is back door or wide open on the 3 pt line players just don't seem to understand where the ball should be. Diamond's Bball IQ is through the roof and when she wants to play (and clearly certain games motivate her more than others) she is damn near unstoppable unless Holly stops her and that seems to be the case. Teams aren't scared of us because Holly doesn't make adjustments. She has no clue of what to do. A player could be on fire and she subs them out (an keeps them out for a long stretch) certain players have more leeway than others (Reynolds & Russell seem to be able to make as many mistakes as they want before being called to the bench). We get leads only to give them back. When we need a shooter in the game, she puts in a team of players who wont take the shot, when we need a rebound she puts in a bunch of players who wont rebound. It's like everything we need to do and we know as fans should be done, she does the opposite. We seem to blame Diamond a lot but it isn't her. If Holly just let the ladies play we would turn this thing around. There should never be a time when either Diamond or Cooper is not on the floor. (unless they are in foul trouble) They are the only two unafraid to take shots. (Dunbar isn't either but because of her defensive liability which I don't think can be any worst than Jordan Reynolds or Russell's consistently refusing to contest shots, she never seems to get in the game) Is there anybody that Holly would listen to that would show her that she doesn't know it all and that she needs to let the ladies play. If we can get out in transition and score and not be forced to slow it down and wait for the post player, I have no doubt we could score in the 80's and be the team no one wants to face come tournament time. Holly stubborness though may cause us a first round exit.
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Can you please use paragraphs? Doing so makes reading a LOT easier. Thanks.
 
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