If someone had told me prior to the game Uros and BHH would combine…

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for 13 points and 11 rebounds and TN would have only seven TO’s I would‘ve bet A LOT of money TN would win this game going away. Funny thing is no one played awful to counterbalance their effort, although huge credit to Michigan for making sure Santi wasn’t going to beat them.
 
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brockytop said:
for 13 points and 11 rebounds and TN would have only seven TO’s I would‘ve bet A LOT of money TN would win this game going away. Funny thing is no one played awful to counterbalance their effort, although huge credit to Michigan for making sure Santi wasn’t going to beat them.
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If Fulky and Plastic are your two best bigs you're in trouble. Thought BHH played very well and should of had more minutes.
 
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Uros had 9 points and 9 boards so he did a nice job. BHH did play well and should’ve played more.

Barnes is scared to death to play some guys in the last 10 minutes of a game regardless of production during the game.
 
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They shut down Santi...and our bench didn't contribute as much as their bench. It was a good game imo. Now to look forward to next year. If It's takes another jump and Aidoo as well we are working with something. We will miss KC and Fully though they will be hard to replace. KC played himself into top of the first round over these last 6 or so games. A win here woulda got him to his lottery interview game. He will play early in the NBA because of defense.
 
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pimo1 said:
They shut down Santi...and our bench didn't contribute as much as their bench. It was a good game imo. Now to look forward to next year. If It's takes another jump and Aidoo as well we are working with something. We will miss KC and Fully though they will be hard to replace. KC played himself into top of the first round over these last 6 or so games. A win here woulda got him to his lottery interview game. He will play early in the NBA because of defense.
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No one plays defense in the nba. That doesn’t get you playing time. If one guy plays defense then you lose during the regular season. Nba regular season is terrible basketball. Guys sit for no reason, no effort. I’ll watch some playoff nba from time to time bc they actually try for a few weeks out of the year.
 
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brockytop said:
for 13 points and 11 rebounds and TN would have only seven TO’s I would‘ve bet A LOT of money TN would win this game going away. Funny thing is no one played awful to counterbalance their effort, although huge credit to Michigan for making sure Santi wasn’t going to beat them.
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Yeah but if someone told you we only hit 2 3s while UM shot 50% you’d say we would be blown out.
 
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Usually . . . The greatest predictor of the future is past performance. There was a reason almost every UT fan was saying during the Longwood game “gosh, I worry we are not saving some of these made shots for the next game.”

UT consistently had scoring droughts this year. It was highly probable they would have one at the wrong time in the tournament. Shooting below 20% from 3 was something this team did. If Chandler had not played out of his mind . . . Our 2/18 performance would have been a double digit blowout.

I don’t know why . . . But scoring droughts have been a thing with UT basketball for several years.

ZZ / JJJ / and Vescovi had open looks in the second half . . . And shot brick after brick.
 
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Go47 said:
Usually . . . The greatest predictor of the future is past performance. There was a reason almost every UT fan was saying during the Longwood game “gosh, I worry we are not saving some of these made shots for the next game.”

UT consistently had scoring droughts this year. It was highly probable they would have one at the wrong time in the tournament. Shooting below 20% from 3 was something this team did. If Chandler has not played out of his mind . . . Our 2/18 performance would have been a double digit blowout.

I don’t know why . . . But scoring droughts have been a thing with UT basketball for several years.

ZZ / JJJ / and Vescovi had open looks in the second half . . . And shot brick after brick.
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I’m with you. I say we fire ZZ/jjj/Vescovi…. Kick their asses to the curb. No reason for them to be on the team..

Did you think before you typed that load of sh!t? I’m sure they realize they had a bad night but did you have to come here and tell all of us who watched it how they struggled?
 
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brockytop said:
for 13 points and 11 rebounds and TN would have only seven TO’s I would‘ve bet A LOT of money TN would win this game going away. Funny thing is no one played awful to counterbalance their effort, although huge credit to Michigan for making sure Santi wasn’t going to beat them.
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I fully expect Uros to take a leap next year. Our front court rotation will now be 4 guys instead of 5 with two "pods" of stretch and post guys. Uros came on late, but I would not be surprised to see him take a leap like Fulkerson did after Grant and Admiral years. Uros could easily be a walking double double next year.
 
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Chill dude. I think they are good players. But our shooting from 3 was something we did this year at times. It happened at a bad time. It’s not a load if it’s true.
 
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Go47 said:
Usually . . . The greatest predictor of the future is past performance. There was a reason almost every UT fan was saying during the Longwood game “gosh, I worry we are not saving some of these made shots for the next game.”

UT consistently had scoring droughts this year. It was highly probable they would have one at the wrong time in the tournament. Shooting below 20% from 3 was something this team did. If Chandler had not played out of his mind . . . Our 2/18 performance would have been a double digit blowout.

I don’t know why . . . But scoring droughts have been a thing with UT basketball for several years.

ZZ / JJJ / and Vescovi had open looks in the second half . . . And shot brick after brick.
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Yup. Lots of posts trashing Barnes as a tournament loser, but his coaching was excellent to give us a 60-54 lead late in the game. After that he got us wide open 3 after wide open 3 and we missed them all. This game was not on Barnes.
 
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ZZ13 said:
Yup. Lots of posts trashing Barnes as a tournament loser, but his coaching was excellent to give us a 60-54 lead late in the game. After that he got us wide open 3 after wide open 3 and we missed them all. This game was not on Barnes.
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He wasn’t on the floor either when we allowed those back to back offensive rebound put backs from Michigan.. those and the wide open misses from 3’s didn’t do much to help.
 
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pimo1 said:
They shut down Santi...and our bench didn't contribute as much as their bench. It was a good game imo. Now to look forward to next year. If It's takes another jump and Aidoo as well we are working with something. We will miss KC and Fully though they will be hard to replace. KC played himself into top of the first round over these last 6 or so games. A win here woulda got him to his lottery interview game. He will play early in the NBA because of defense.
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No offense to the kid but I think Fulky will be easy to replace. We need some toughness on this roster especially in the paint. Outside of ON, none of our posts looks like someone who can body up and be physical down low. Honestly, I think ZZ might be our toughest player.
 
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Rememberthelate90s said:
No one plays defense in the nba. That doesn’t get you playing time. If one guy plays defense then you lose during the regular season. Nba regular season is terrible basketball. Guys sit for no reason, no effort. I’ll watch some playoff nba from time to time bc they actually try for a few weeks out of the year.
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U not even sure what to say to that...I guess you don't actually watch NBA games..ever.
 
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Rememberthelate90s said:
No one plays defense in the nba. That doesn’t get you playing time. If one guy plays defense then you lose during the regular season. Nba regular season is terrible basketball. Guys sit for no reason, no effort. I’ll watch some playoff nba from time to time bc they actually try for a few weeks out of the year.
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People play high level defense in the NBA, rules are made in such a way that it shows up less than it used to. Enes Kanter could average 20-15 a night if he got minutes but he refuses to play defense so he can hardly stay on teams.
 
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pimo1 said:
U not even sure what to say to that...I guess you don't actually watch NBA games..ever.
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Yeah I watch. Hope it’s different. 9 years teams averaged over 100. Like last 6 or 7 it’s been well above 100 a game. Can’t touch a player. Sorry but give me 90s nba when a flagrant didn’t exist unless you broke a bone. Players are soft now. Make too much money for them to play hard. They play hard in the playoffs. Only time they do.

But you act like you know me. Kyie plays hella defense doesn’t he. Lebron plays no defense now bc he can’t. Too old. It’s scoring.
 
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He wasn’t on the floor either when we allowed those back to back offensive rebound put backs from Michigan.. those and the wide open misses from 3’s didn’t do much to help.
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In addition to our shooting woes down the stretch, our defense and rebounding was not good either.
 
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CAVPUT said:
No offense to the kid but I think Fulky will be easy to replace. We need some toughness on this roster especially in the paint. Outside of ON, none of our posts looks like someone who can body up and be physical down low. Honestly, I think ZZ might be our toughest player.
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We will certainly miss his skills and leadership. Although he wasn't at his physical peak this year, apparently due to health issues, he really contributed to the success of the team.
 
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Rememberthelate90s said:
No one plays defense in the nba. That doesn’t get you playing time. If one guy plays defense then you lose during the regular season. Nba regular season is terrible basketball. Guys sit for no reason, no effort. I’ll watch some playoff nba from time to time bc they actually try for a few weeks out of the year.
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How can you comment on the NBA when you don't watch it? The Celtics say hello regarding your comments.
 
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Rememberthelate90s said:
Yeah I watch. Hope it’s different. 9 years teams averaged over 100. Like last 6 or 7 it’s been well above 100 a game. Can’t touch a player. Sorry but give me 90s nba when a flagrant didn’t exist unless you broke a bone. Players are soft now. Make too much money for them to play hard. They play hard in the playoffs. Only time they do.

But you act like you know me. Kyie plays hella defense doesn’t he. Lebron plays no defense now bc he can’t. Too old. It’s scoring.
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The statement about no defense in the NBA is just flat wrong. If there was no defense, the scores would be 170 to 160 every game. Not as physical as it once was but they still play defense. The offenses are just that good.
 
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brockytop said:
for 13 points and 11 rebounds and TN would have only seven TO’s I would‘ve bet A LOT of money TN would win this game going away. Funny thing is no one played awful to counterbalance their effort, although huge credit to Michigan for making sure Santi wasn’t going to beat them.
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Also thought Uros was leaning on that Center from UM, wearing him down. At one point, before all the media breaks, he was nearly walking down the court. The breaks, combined with fulky in the game he got a second wind and scored a few more. Haven't seen Fulky get that owned in a long time.
 
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Delmar said:
The statement about no defense in the NBA is just flat wrong. If there was no defense, the scores would be 170 to 160 every game. Not as physical as it once was but they still play defense. The offenses are just that good.
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It's a longer game anyways right? Plus they play a lot more games. I haven't watched an entire NBA game in a long time. I do miss the highly competitive, wrecking ball attitude the NBA used to have.
 
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Delmar said:
The statement about no defense in the NBA is just flat wrong. If there was no defense, the scores would be 170 to 160 every game. Not as physical as it once was but they still play defense. The offenses are just that good.
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Exactly... the game is different. Back in the 80's and 90's guys weren't pulling off step-back 3's from 28 feet. the game was played inside and midrange. If a guy missed took 5 3's and missed 3 he'd be benched. its why you see such a premium put on wing defenders and 3 and D guys. People like Kawahi, Klay, Simmons etc. In the 80's and 90's Andre Drummond would be a superstar. There are not a lot of throwback players like Carmello Anthony, Russel Westbrook, and Demar Derozan. Even Lebron is more of a throwback-type player. This game is about 3's and it's not that no defense is played it's just really hard to defend the 3. A defender now has to be able to defend at least 3 positions to be elite. Imagine my favorite player of the 90's Magic Johnson having to defend his own position of PG. Imagine Jordan Having to switch onto KD. Guys like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller were unicorns... like a preview of what was to come.

But yes pretty much every Vol currently in the NBA playing minutes, outside of Tobias Harris, is getting their playtime because of Defense. It's what's gonna get Keon his PT and Springer if he ever gets healthy. It's what got Jrich his PT. It's what got Yves Pon a look and it's why Springer will get drafted in the late teens. He has NBA size to guard 1-3. Its why James Harden to the 6ers as the best thing to ever happen to Jaden Springer. Actually, there was an article on it the other day.
 
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