If the 12 Team Playoff was this year...

#26
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fossilfiction said:
Conference championships should be rewarded. If you are eligible for the CFP, and you win the conference championship, the team you beat should not get a bye over you. That is why, and I won't be taking your hypothetical statement bait. It's irrelevant to my answer or your question of why.
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Bait? I don’t see it as bait. It’s a discussion. I don’t think a mediocre league should be rewarded for being mediocre. They make the CFP, that’s the reward. If we have the #3 SOS and finish 11-1 and then get passed by a #15 9-4 conference champ w/ #60+ SOS that to me is wrong.
 
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#27
Why would Utah be ahead of TCU? Both are conference champions, and TCU is rated higher. And for that matter, why would Clemson be ahead of TCU?
 
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#31
This needs to be the top 16 and no one gets a bye. The reward is the top 8 get to play at home in the first round.
 
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#32
I wonder also if this will result with some conferences no longer having a championship game. More than likely the top teams in the 'considered' tougher conferences will be higher ranked. Why take the chance with a loss. And if there is a tie at the top - let the conference rules apply or take the higher ranked one.
 
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P5 should eliminate conference championship games when the playoffs expands. They won’t because of the dollars they generate but there will be no use for them otherwise.
 
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SNAFU said:
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Kansas state would be seeded ahead of tcu based on conference championship
 
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GiveHim6InSC said:
Maybe Florida State will hurry back to contention in the ACC, because that conference is hot garbage and Clemson will get in every year
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Florida State will be interesting if Travis returns. A lot of returning talent on that team, but Jordan Travis could determine if they are legit CFP contenders or if they'll be a 7-5/8-4 type team.

North Carolina returns Maye, who could/should be a Heisman finalist this year. I know they struggled in the conf. title game, but they are a talented bunch. Could easily see them knocking off Clemson next year.

After that it's a big drop.Miami continues to recruit well. Whether or not it will translate to the field is TBD. They have a talented trio of QBs, so who knows.

Pitt, NC State, and Wake Forest are all solid but they each consistently finish outside the top 30 in recruiting, so it's harder to predict how good/bad they will be. They all seem well coached at the very least.

The reat of the ACC is a mess. Louisville just lost their coach and they weren't terribly good anyways. Syracuse started hot then lost 5 in row. Duke had a decent season, but I don't think anyone considers them serious threats to win the ACC. Everyone else is pretty awful currently.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Yeah, the "conference champs get a bye" rule is crap. Pac 12 and ACC champs are receiving welfare.
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Nah I think it's THE rule making the 12 team playoff work. It makes winning your conference matter and thus your performance during the regular season matter.
 
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HighRockvol said:
Kansas state would be seeded ahead of tcu based on conference championship
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Not necessarily because they aren't in the top 4 for conference championships. Those 3 losses puts them out of bye contention so they are seeded just how they're ranked.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Nah I think it's THE rule making the 12 team playoff work. It makes winning your conference matter and thus your performance during the regular season matter.
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I disagree, an 11-2 ACC champion shouldn't get a bye over a 12-1 SECCG loser.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Nah I think it's THE rule making the 12 team playoff work. It makes winning your conference matter and thus your performance during the regular season matter.
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I agree.

This year the Big 10 got rewarded for having a weak azz conference.
The PAC12 got punished for having a competitive conference.
 
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hog88 said:
I disagree, an 11-2 ACC champion shouldn't get a bye over a 12-1 SECCG loser.
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I get that, but I think it's an acceptable compromise. Bowls outside the CFP already don't matter to a lot of people. We don't need to devalue the conference championships and the regular season.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
I get that, but I think it's an acceptable compromise. Bowls outside the CFP already don't matter to a lot of people. We don't need to devalue the conference championships and the regular season.
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Isn’t devaluing the regular season exactly what you are doing in that situation by punishing the team that went 12-0 in the SEC regular season for losing the SEC championship game but rewarding a 10-2 regular season from a ACC for 1 win.
you are giving one specific game more importance than the whole resume
 
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CNCVol88 said:
I get that, but I think it's an acceptable compromise. Bowls outside the CFP already don't matter to a lot of people. We don't need to devalue the conference championships and the regular season.
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If I were a conference commissioner, especially over the SEC I'd do away with the CCG under that model. Why risk a bye with the extra game? Yes, I know the cash generated from the CCG is more important to them but it's worth considering since the winner of a 9 game conference schedule demonstrated more worthiness of a bye that a team who put it all together for 1 game.
 
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