If we dont start Rick against FL

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Rick is by far the most effective QB.

Erik should get used to coming off the bench.

If we get behind, put him in and let him stretch the field, but when you see the field as well as Clausen, you can pretty effectively stretch the field by getting the ball to the receiver who has the best opportunity to make a big play and Rick is good at that.

His interception was the reciever's fault.

He saved our butts yet again and he deserves to be named the starter.

The controversy continues.
 
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Yes... But here is the problem we have.

Yes, Clausen made a few big passes. But UAB's pass defense will be nothing compared to who else we will play. Clausen is still mostly good for little screen passes but that will NOT cut it at the higher levels.

What troubles me even more was the inconsistency of our RB's. Riggs, Foster and Yancey all had a few big plays but on the whole did not do a whole lot.

If we continue to play this way, we are in for a long season... Oi
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 3, 2005 2:47 PM
Yes... But here is the problem we have.

Yes, Clausen made a few big passes. But UAB's pass defense will be nothing compared to who else we will play. Clausen is still mostly good for little screen passes but that will NOT cut it at the higher levels.

What troubles me even more was the inconsistency of our RB's. Riggs, Foster and Yancey all had a few big plays but on the whole did not do a whole lot.

If we continue to play this way, we are in for a long season... Oi
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OK, but at least Clausen gives his receivers a chance. The way Ainge was playing today our receivers would have to be 10' tall to catch the ball. He gave us NO chance.
 
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Make Rick the starter is what i say ...let ainge get a little better then we will see about a starting position...for right now clauson is our guy
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 3, 2005 2:47 PM
Yes... But here is the problem we have.

Yes, Clausen made a few big passes. But UAB's pass defense will be nothing compared to who else we will play. Clausen is still mostly good for little screen passes but that will NOT cut it at the higher levels.

What troubles me even more was the inconsistency of our RB's. Riggs, Foster and Yancey all had a few big plays but on the whole did not do a whole lot.

If we continue to play this way, we are in for a long season... Oi
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Rick made one very nice pass downfield that was DROPPED.

I've never seen our receivers drop so many.
 
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ainge will have a comeback game aginst florida. He is a star and dont base his whole damn season on one game. everyone has a bad game. I mean Clausen played ALOT more than him so I dont want to hear it. Ainge was doing a hell of a job untill fulmer decided to take him out in the first quarter after going up 10-0. that was a mistake.
 
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Originally posted by vols2345@Sep 3, 2005 2:52 PM
ainge will have a comeback game aginst florida.  He is a star and dont base his whole damn season on one game.  everyone has a bad game.  I mean Clausen played ALOT more than him so I dont want to hear it.  Ainge was doing a hell of a job untill fulmer decided to take him out in the first quarter after going up 10-0.  that was a mistake.
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What game were you watching?
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 3, 2005 2:54 PM
Ainge did some good things as well...
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Yea telling the coaches that we need to recruit taller WR's
 
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I'm not throwing in the towel on Ainge, no reason to be reactionary on one game, but its obvious that Ainge has some mental issues because the ability is there.

I think we'll see good things out of him shortly, but Clausen should be starting in Gainesville.
 
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Originally posted by Vol 4 Life@Sep 3, 2005 2:59 PM
... but Clausen should be starting in Gainesville.
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No question about that.
 
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Originally posted by Vol 4 Life@Sep 3, 2005 2:59 PM
I'm not throwing in the towel on Ainge, no reason to be reactionary on one game, but its obvious that Ainge has some mental issues because the ability is there. 

I think we'll see good things out of him shortly, but Clausen should be starting in Gainesville.
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I'm not either, but I think Rick clearly earned the next start today.

I'd like to see the coaches go with him and stop this rotating them every 3 series. The QBs need to get a rythm.

Erik clearly did not have anything once he came back in the game.

Did putting Clausen in hinder his rythm? Maybe.

But based purely on how each played, if we'd left Erik in the whole game we likely would have lost.

Ricks pick was not his fault.

Erik threw two picks that shouldn't have even been thrown.

His last pick looked horrible. It was a really bad choice.
 
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Originally posted by vols2345@Sep 3, 2005 2:52 PM
ainge will have a comeback game aginst florida.  He is a star and dont base his whole damn season on one game.  everyone has a bad game.  I mean Clausen played ALOT more than him so I dont want to hear it.  Ainge was doing a hell of a job untill fulmer decided to take him out in the first quarter after going up 10-0.  that was a mistake.
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give it up, clausen is the guy.
 
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I think it's pretty clear that Ainge has more upside . . . and downside.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Sep 3, 2005 3:04 PM
I think it's pretty clear that Ainge has more upside . . . and downside.
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Yep.

Well put. Upside cannot overcome the downside in the SEC. Give me a QB who doesn't cost you the game any day.

We have far too much talent to put all our eggs in the basked of throwing it down field.



 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 3, 2005 3:47 PM
Yes... But here is the problem we have.

Yes, Clausen made a few big passes. But UAB's pass defense will be nothing compared to who else we will play. Clausen is still mostly good for little screen passes but that will NOT cut it at the higher levels.

What troubles me even more was the inconsistency of our RB's. Riggs, Foster and Yancey all had a few big plays but on the whole did not do a whole lot.

If we continue to play this way, we are in for a long season... Oi
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Right now Clausen is the better QB. Milo you need to put your prejudice aside and see the big picture. Andy Kelly didn't have a big arm, Jeff Francis didn't have a big arm, Daryl Dickey didn't have a big arm. Clausen can throw the ball 45 to 55 yards and that is all you need. When UT is at its best is when the QB gets the ball to the right guy at the right time and he makes the big plays. Ainge may be a playmaker as the season progresses but right now he's not doing his job.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Sep 3, 2005 4:04 PM
I think it's pretty clear that Ainge has more upside . . . and downside.
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I'll take production over potential any day!
 
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Originally posted by vols2345@Sep 3, 2005 2:52 PM
ainge will have a comeback game aginst florida.  He is a star and dont base his whole damn season on one game.  everyone has a bad game.  I mean Clausen played ALOT more than him so I dont want to hear it.  Ainge was doing a hell of a job untill fulmer decided to take him out in the first quarter after going up 10-0.  that was a mistake.
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Ainge will not see the field against UF unless RC is injured or the game gets out of hand. I'm not sure which game you were watching, but RC is heads and shoulders above EA. EA will grow into the job, RC already has.
 
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As a former coach, I'm still trying to figure out about the choice of the starting quarterback. First, why not go with the quarterback who led the team to a win last year in the bowl game, which was Clausen. Especially since both Clausen and Ainge were "neck-n-neck" with their pre-season competition, go with the one who led the team last to a convincing win. Secondly, since they decided on Ainge as the starter, why pull him after a couple of series? It seems to me that Ainge was in a rhythm and doing things really well. When he went back in he seemed to be out-of-sync and not very effective. I continue to try and understand the reasoning of the coaches. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense as to how they make their decisions. I'm sure that is why Clausen was a little "upset" with their decision to start Ainge. My two cents.
 
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Originally posted by vols2345@Sep 3, 2005 2:52 PM
ainge will have a comeback game aginst florida.  He is a star and dont base his whole damn season on one game.  everyone has a bad game.  I mean Clausen played ALOT more than him so I dont want to hear it. 
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Well, I agree with the Clausen camp. In the SEC you cannot afford one bad game. Ainge just didn't have anything today and Rick Clausen did. The qb job should be Clausen's to lose.
 
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Originally posted by secfanclub@Sep 3, 2005 3:47 PM
As a former coach, I'm still trying to figure out about the choice of the starting quarterback.  First, why not go with the quarterback who led the team to a win last year in the bowl game, which was Clausen.  Especially since both Clausen and Ainge were "neck-n-neck" with their pre-season competition, go with the one who led the team last to a convincing win.  Secondly, since they decided on Ainge as the starter, why pull him after a couple of series?  It seems to me that Ainge was in a rhythm and doing things really well.  When he went back in he seemed to be out-of-sync and not very effective.  I continue to try and understand the reasoning of the coaches.  Sometimes it just doesn't make sense as to how they make their decisions.  I'm sure that is why Clausen was a little "upset" with their decision to start Ainge.  My two cents.
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Agreed. Ainge has commented before how he feels more comfortable watching a series or two, getting a feel for the game and then going in. A lot of folks including myself owe mr. Clausen an apology, he's pretty consistent and seems to know the offense. I think many consider Ainge the sexier of the two no matter how well or poor they do as individuals, everyone seems to want Ainge to be awesome and when hes not its dissapointing. Clausen on the other hand just does the job, has some good and bad things happen but generally he wins. I say start Clausen, then when and if it feels right bring in Ainge. I think thats when you'll see him explode into a defense with better consistentcy.
 
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Originally posted by dan4vols@Sep 3, 2005 4:01 PM
Clausen on the other hand just does the job,
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Which should be what we're looking for.
 
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