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lol. nobody is attacking his private life man.

he has a job to do and he isnt doing it.

if u go to work and completely screw up everyday for a year on your job, things will change.

if he can start doing his job again fine. but until then dont let the door hit u in the butt.
 
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Originally posted by utfantilidie@Oct 30, 2005 10:24 AM
Give the guy a break. He's human , too(with a family).
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I feel for him personally, I bet most of us do. This is a critical time for him... he has the opportunity to do some unpleasant things but right the ship. Doing so will prove he is a dynamic leader and one who can turn around an adverse situation. Turning this around would cement his legacy as a great coach.

 
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I don't support CPF since I am not a VOL fan. I do think it is strange you would want to get rid of him over this disappointing season. Every program has rough spots. A true fan will keep the faith and understand you can't be on top every season. He will make the changes needed. I think he wants to win as much as the fans.
 
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You just don't understand. This is not "just one bad year". This is a downward spiral since 98. The defense is consistently good...well with a few bumps which that can be expected. But since 1998 the offense has pulled in more talent than some of the best programs in the country but has not produced.

Factors why? Discipline. Hunger. Drive. Focus. Determination. The will to win and to overcome adversity. The will not not give up when you're down. LSU was the only surge of any of this.

Offense has repeatedly seen penalties, fumbles, interceptions, dropped passes, etc. You can blame that single moment on the player involved. But when this is repeated happening you look at who is preparing these guys every game to why this happens.

So again, this isn't just one bad year. And it's not just a player's fault. It is consistent underperformance year in and year out. Who has been in charge during this period? Sanders. Who has been in charge of decent to superior HS QB's only to see them suck and get worse yearly? I said before Ainge came in ready to play last year. He was ready to not only compete but to take charge and lead his team down the field and put points on the board. The longer he's been around Sanders the worse he's gotten. That theme repeated with Casey and Rick. Good talent squandered.
 
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ibelieve fulmer is a heck of a guy and i would never attack his family, but he is a bad football coach. in saying that he's had agood run he needs to pack his bags and retire back in winchester.
 
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i like fulmer and he inst that bad of a football coach but sometimes, he has just got to take a stand like a real football coach. talent doesnt just the only thing to win championships. its time he takes charge, fires randy, and benches players wh o are playing bad.
 
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Fulmer may be a great person and a great friend. But this is a business. As crass as it sounds in dealing with college kids, this is a business. He works for a university. He is a 'professor'. His job is preparing these kids. When he or any other professor is not doing their job and it becomes a detriment to the university, the university has to make personnel decisions.

So the teaching analogy and the business analogy bboth show that if Fulmer cannot produce, he should be forced to make changes to rectify this. if he doesn't, can't, or chooses not to then HIS head should be on the block.

This is not about his family or him as a person. He has a job to do. And any business in the world cannot allow mediocrity to exist and continue.
 
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Originally posted by GeorgiaTider@Oct 30, 2005 11:44 AM
I do think it is strange you would want to get rid of him over this disappointing season. Every program has rough spots.
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A Bama fan thinking it strange to wanna get rid of a coach over a bad season, Now thats funny
 
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Originally posted by Vol 4 Life@Oct 30, 2005 10:40 AM
I feel for him personally, I bet most of us do.  This is a critical time for him... he has the opportunity to do some unpleasant things but right the ship.  Doing so will prove he is a dynamic leader and one who can turn around an adverse situation.  Turning this around would cement his legacy as a great coach.
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Agreed 1000%
 
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I apreciate your sincerity. I just watched the Fulmer show and it was obvious, the players along with some play calls lost the game along with the sneaky pass plays by Spurrier . Our guys have bad hands. Have trouble catching the ball. I doubt any of the senior receivers will make pro now. Our fumbles have come at the worse times possible.If anything, get a new offensive coordinator and start over if just for the psch of it all. I have seen so much worse from the other vol coaches in the past.
 
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its interesting many of the people defending fulmer on these boards are bammer fans.......

its obvious why you would like to see fulmer stay, as long as fulmer is here we will continue to underachieve and finish 3rd or worse in the sec east most years

we would have loved for bama to have kept dubose too, but alas bama decided they wanted to actually be in a position to compete for a championship.....
 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Oct 30, 2005 1:10 PM
we would have loved for bama to have kept dubose too, but alas bama decided they wanted to actually be in a position to compete for a championship.....
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LOL. OK, good point. At least CPF didn't get in trouble with the secretary, recruiting violations, etc...
 
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Good luck Bama since you guys are head and shoulders above the rest of the sec (this year anyways!)
 
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Originally posted by utfantilidie@Oct 30, 2005 1:18 PM
Good luck Bama since you guys are head and shoulders above the rest of the sec (this year anyways!)
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Thanks, but we aren't. We have just managed to win close games. We still have 3 more to go and if we do win out, I hope we represent the SEC well.
 
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Originally posted by GeorgiaTider@Oct 30, 2005 9:44 AM
I don't support CPF since I am not a VOL fan. I do think it is strange you would want to get rid of him over this disappointing season. Every program has rough spots. A true fan will keep the faith and understand you can't be on top every season. He will make the changes needed. I think he wants to win as much as the fans.
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So did Mike Dubose! Get to hell back to your Bama sites, where everyone worships and burns incense to a former coach dead now over two decades and mind your own business!!
 
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Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Oct 30, 2005 10:28 AM

if u go to work and completely screw up everyday for a year on your job, things will change.

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Very true. Can everyone agree that Fulmer's job is to win football games? It is NOT to get the best high school recruits, or to hand Peyton a jersey, or to say the right things to the media, or to keep all his assistants happy. It is TO WIN FOOTBALL GAMES.

Realistically, after this year, he is going to have to bring in a new OC, receivers coach, and probably special teams coach. He's not going anywhere unless he does that and we still don't produce for 2-3 more years.
 
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Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Oct 30, 2005 11:57 AM
Very true.  Can everyone agree that Fulmer's job is to win football games?  It is NOT to get the best high school recruits, or to hand Peyton a jersey, or to say the right things to the media, or to keep all his assistants happy.  It is TO WIN FOOTBALL GAMES.

Realistically, after this year, he is going to have to bring in a new OC, receivers coach, and probably special teams coach.  He's not going anywhere unless he does that and we still don't produce for 2-3 more years.
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And if he doesn't? Lets's say he changes tightends coaches or promotes a grad assistant (This is what I expect). I think we need a paradigm shift and to clean house starting from the top.
 
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I support Coach Fulmer. But I can still be critical of him.

If we get rid of CPF, it would be the stupidest decision we have ever made. However, CPF doesnt bring LIFE into the offense. His hum-drum persona is bleeding over into the offense. Unless he gets back a fire in his belly about his team, his offense is going to be just as bland as he is.

If he cant find that fire, he needs to step down and do what is best for the University.
 
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Originally posted by utfantilidie@Oct 30, 2005 10:24 AM
Give the guy a break. He's human , too(with a family).
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Thanks to the generosity of this University the man's great grandchildren could never have to work. I would say that his family has been more than compensated for their troubles.
 
#22
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Fulmer better make some staff changes underneath him at the end of this season to save his own behind. And he better not hire another coach from BYU or some other pitiful team.
 
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Well, I'm no advertising guru but common sense would say when you take a football team and win a college national championship, the creditbiltiy and monies brought to your school by advertisers,fans, would suffice in compensating Phil Fulmer's infinite salary! Concur? :twocents: :dunno:
 
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Originally posted by utfantilidie@Oct 30, 2005 3:55 PM
Well, I'm no advertising guru but common sense would say when you take a football team and win a college national championship, the creditbiltiy and monies brought to your school by advertisers,fans,  would suffice in compensating Phil Fulmer's infinite salary! Concur? :twocents:  :dunno:
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Agreed! But when you refuse to downsize, or make changes when the company is losing money (or ballgames) hand over fist the buck stops with the CEO, the person making the highest salary. Concur? :dunno:
 
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