If you're going to do it, do it right (The National Anthem)

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I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of our national anthem (key-related range issues, too long, too easy to add unnecessary schmaltz to, and too many people take it at tempo a la funeral dirge), but it's what we've got and it needs to be done to the best of one's ability each time it's performed.

And if you're going to perform it, especially in front of a large crowd, there is no shame in having the words with you.

Friends don't let friends screw this up. Happy Independence Weekend!

 
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I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of our national anthem (key-related range issues, too long, too easy to add unnecessary schmaltz to, and too many people take it at tempo a la funeral dirge), but it's what we've got and it needs to be done to the best of one's ability each time it's performed.

And if you're going to perform it, especially in front of a large crowd, there is no shame in having the words with you.

Friends don't let friends screw this up. Happy Independence Weekend!



Yeah, a very good butchered song done well.
 
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I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of our national anthem (key-related range issues, too long, too easy to add unnecessary schmaltz to, and too many people take it at tempo a la funeral dirge), but it's what we've got and it needs to be done to the best of one's ability each time it's performed.

And if you're going to perform it, especially in front of a large crowd, there is no shame in having the words with you.

Friends don't let friends screw this up. Happy Independence Weekend!


Our national anthem is probably the most well-written from a musical standpoint. I thought you were a music guy, Ash.
 
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Our national anthem is probably the most well-written from a musical standpoint. I thought you were a music guy, Ash.
It’s an absolute miserable piece to perform. Ask any accomplished singer. The lyrics are quite powerful though
 
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Our national anthem is probably the most well-written from a musical standpoint. I thought you were a music guy, Ash.
Or you could have a National Anthem written by Franz Joseph Hyden if you were looking for well written musically

 
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I do agree with the premise of the OP though. Look it’s hard enough as is. Don’t “make it your own” and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Here u go McCoy

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Our national anthem is probably the most well-written from a musical standpoint. I thought you were a music guy, Ash.

Our national anthem is musically a middle finger to the British Royal Navy. It is set to the tune of To Anachreon In Heav'n, which was used in the naval officers' bars to ascertain whether or not an officer was sober enough to ask for another drink. If the officer couldn't hit the tune or words, then no more ale for them.

As for it being one of the most well-written from a musical standpoint, that's in the realm of opinion. It's certainly nowhere near the worst. My favorite arrangement is penned by John Philip Sousa in his Parade of Nations, where it's in 4 and scored in the style of a Wagnerian grand opera.
 
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Our national anthem is musically a middle finger to the British Royal Navy. It is set to the tune of To Anachreon In Heav'n, which was used in the naval officers' bars to ascertain whether or not an officer was sober enough to ask for another drink. If the officer couldn't hit the tune or words, then no more ale for them.

As for it being one of the most well-written from a musical standpoint, that's in the realm of opinion. It's certainly nowhere near the worst. My favorite arrangement is penned by John Philip Sousa in his Parade of Nations, where it's in 4 and scored in the style of a Wagnerian grand opera.
Eh that’s a bit of a stretch. Key was the messenger I believe that delivered the message from the Brits that if the colors were struck there would be no loss of life. If you know the backstory the lyrics are even more powerful.
 
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I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of our national anthem (key-related range issues, too long, too easy to add unnecessary schmaltz to, and too many people take it at tempo a la funeral dirge), but it's what we've got and it needs to be done to the best of one's ability each time it's performed.

And if you're going to perform it, especially in front of a large crowd, there is no shame in having the words with you.

Friends don't let friends screw this up. Happy Independence Weekend!


OMFG that asshat was at Lonestar Park in Grand Prairie. Run his ass outa the state.
 
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More fun anthem facts! :cool:

One of the nation’s foremost experts on “The Star-Spangled Banner” is Mark Clague, associate professor of musicology at the University of Michigan School of Music, Theatre & Dance.

Clague is the founding board chair of the Star Spangled Music Foundation and editor and producer of the “Star Spangled Songbook” and its associated recording project “Poets & Patriots: A Tuneful History of ‘The Star-Spangled Banner.'”
As Independence Day approaches, Clague is available to speak with journalists about the history of the U.S. National Anthem. Contact: 734-647-9416, claguem@umich.edu.


In addition, Clague has recently added to his popular “Banner Mythconception” essay series debunking common misunderstandings surrounding “The Star-Spangled Banner” and Francis Scott Key, the lawyer and poet who wrote the anthem’s lyrics.

MYTH #1: Francis Scott Key was held prisoner aboard a British ship during the bombardment of Baltimore.
Correction: Key was aboard his own American truce ship during the battle.

MYTH #2: Key drafted “The Star-Spangled Banner” on the back of an envelope or letter.
Correction: Most likely, Key wrote his draft on a clean sheet of paper using pen and ink.

MYTH #3: Key wrote a “poem” later set to music by someone else.
Correction: “The Star-Spangled Banner” was always conceived of by Key as a song and he wrote his “lyric” to fit a specific melody of his own choosing.

MYTH #4: Key’s Banner is based on the melody of a bawdy old English drinking song.
Correction: “The Anacreontic Song” was the constitutional anthem of an elite, London-based, amateur music society…but it gets complicated.

MYTH #5: “The Star-Spangled Banner” as baseball’s game day ritual begins with Babe Ruth and the 1918 World Series.
Correction: The earliest documented performance of Key’s Banner in pro sports was on opening day at a baseball game in 1862.

MYTH #6: A 1931 act of Congress made “The Star-Spangled Banner” the official anthem of the United States.
Correction: This is absolutely correct in terms of the anthem’s legal status, but the bill approved by the House and Senate and signed by President Herbert Hoover simply recognized what had been true in American cultural practice for decades.

MYTH #7: There is a sanctioned traditional or otherwise official version of “The Star-Spangled Banner.”
Correction: The 1931 act making Key’s song America’s anthem does not identify an official arrangement, in part because the song as sung in the 20th century had already departed from what Key had known. During World War I, attempts were made to codify the arrangement, resulting in both a military “Service Version” and a “Standardized Version” endorsed by the Department of Education.

MYTH #8: A mug shot offers proof of composer Igor Stravinsky’s arrest by the Boston Police for desecrating a national symbol after conducting a performance of his own arrangement of “The Star-Spangled Banner” with the Boston Symphony.
Correction: The well-known image is thus not associated with an arrest at all, but it is true that Stravinsky’s anthem was controversial. The supposed mug shot is actually part of Stravinsky’s 1940 visa application for residence in the United States.
 
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Eh that’s a bit of a stretch. Key was the messenger I believe that delivered the message from the Brits that if the colors were struck there would be no loss of life. If you know the backstory the lyrics are even more powerful.

People listen to the "bombs burting in air" like some miliitaristic Pax Americana. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is about "authoritaritarism" and rule. Ironic as hell.
 
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Normally I'm a pretty strict flag code guy, but hand me a doughnut with flag-themed glaze/icing and I'll gladly make it disappear.

Myth 1. Who ever said Key was held prisoner?

"During their talks and then upon the release of the doctor, Key, and Beanes were moved from the H.M.S. Tonnant, where they had negotiated with British Admiral Cochrane, to the H.M.S. Surprise and finally back to their own American truce ship."
That is consistent with what was said during my video. Key was abaord the HMS and eventually went to Fort McHenry and say what they has done
 
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Myth 1. Who ever said Key was held prisoner?

"During their talks and then upon the release of the doctor, Key, and Beanes were moved from the H.M.S. Tonnant, where they had negotiated with British Admiral Cochrane, to the H.M.S. Surprise and finally back to their own American truce ship."
That is consistent with what was said during my video. Key was aboard the HMS and eventually went to Fort McHenry and say what they has done

I was taught growing up that he was a prisoner on board their ship. Didn't find out until Music History my freshman year that I was mistaught.
 
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I was taught growing up that he was a prisoner on board their ship. Didn't find out until Music History my freshman year that I was mistaught.

Well there was apparently an American "truce ship" of which Key was a part, so the British snaggle tooth did not hold him "prisoner".
 
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Key-related range issues? Elaborate on that please. Are you referring to issues as they relate to a tessitura?
 
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