illegal arrest at anti-walker rally

[OrangeEmpire]

Not quite sure what our disconnect is.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Do you not agree with investigative detention or not know what is is?

 

[utvolpj]

Not quite sure what our disconnect is.

it seems you believe this reasonable while standing behind ID. In the future why not just stop and search anyone in the area of a crime? My issue is also with the idiots that willingly gave consent to search. Violating rights under the guise of protecting citizens from a dangerous bank robber is ridiculous

Do you not agree with investigative detention or not know what is is?

I can grasp the concept but don't see how detaining everyone driving a car for 2hrs falls under it. Maybe you can explain how this would fit

 

[OrangeEmpire]

it seems you believe this reasonable while standing behind ID. In the future why not just stop and search anyone in the area of a crime? My issue is also with the idiots that willingly gave consent to search. Violating rights under the guise of protecting citizens from a dangerous bank robber is ridiculous

Where does what I believe come in to this?

You asked what justification and I responded.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

The court defines it as reasonable time.

 

[utvolpj]

Where does what I believe come in to this?

You asked what justification and I responded.

so this was proper application of investigative detention in your opinion? Was there enough cause to search every car? Seems pretty simple to me

 

[OrangeEmpire]

so this was proper application of investigative detention in your opinion? Was there enough cause to search every car? Seems pretty simple to me

Depends on how reliable the tip was. I cant stop and detain someone for no reason. The pio of the dept in question can only relese limited facts due to an on going investigation.

Hard to speculate not knowing what info they had.

 

[utvolpj]

Depends on how reliable the tip was. I cant stop and detain someone for no reason. The pio of the dept in question can only relese limited facts due to an on going investigation.

Hard to speculate not knowing what info they had.

from the link

“We didn’t have a description, didn’t know race or gender or anything, so a split-second decision was made to stop all the cars at that intersection, and search for the armed robber,” Aurora police Officer Frank Fania told ABC News.

(turns out that's not completely true but I guess they didn't want to be accused of profiling)

 

[OrangeEmpire]

from the link



(turns out that's not completely true but I guess they didn't want to be accused of profiling)

I am going from the link. I have no idea what the tip was.

A decision was made, beautiful thing is being able to question how it was carried out.

 

[utvolpj]

no the beautiful thing would be to question it before it's carrier out. Been a while since I've read it but I'm pretty sure 'ends justifying the means' isn't in the Constitution

 

[OrangeEmpire]

no the beautiful thing would be to question it before it's carrier out. Been a while since I've read it but I'm pretty sure 'ends justifying the means' isn't in the Constitution

Disconnect again, rant vs reality?

The pio released the tip was for the robber being at the red light at the intersection.

This is what he or she can release.

The rest is political talk by the dept.