I'm Bored

#26
#26
I think Butch is going to be a very solid coach and in 3 years we will will have to dig deeper in the pockets to keep him. GBO
 
#28
#28
Oh I wasn't aware Butch got fired already. In that case we need to hire Gruden or Bill Cowher.
 
#29
#29
This thread after he has coached three games, two of which we won convincingly. UN-BE-FREAKING-LEAVABLE.
 
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#33
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Vols4ever said:
I bet OP will be the first one to start a "Fire Butch" campaign if we lose to Florida!
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How much you want to bet? Lol! You don't know if CBJ is going to succeed, so if he doesn't, would you prefer a defensive minded coach? Offensive minded maybe? Another Dooley with no coordinating experience on either side of the ball? I just want UT to start thinking, "defense wins championships".
 
#34
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keckjm said:
We tried to get Charlie Strong but he wouldn't leave. I'm not saying I don't like Butch because I'm a huge fan and think we got a steal of a coach, but Strong is the type of coach you are talking about. The guy beats way better teams with less talent due to defense. It doesn't hurt his QB is a stud also.
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I'm curious, other than Florida who has Strong beat that is significant?
 
#35
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keckjm said:
We tried to get Charlie Strong but he wouldn't leave. I'm not saying I don't like Butch because I'm a huge fan and think we got a steal of a coach, but Strong is the type of coach you are talking about. The guy beats way better teams with less talent due to defense. It doesn't hurt his QB is a stud also.
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In case you haven't check this is who Charlie Stong has to prepare his defense for this year. Scary!!!!

Sept 1 vsOhio W49-7 1-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 7 vsE Kentucky W44-7 2-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 14 @Kentucky W27-13 3-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 21 vsFlorida Int 12:00 PM ET 616 available from $10
Sat, Oct 5 @Temple TBD 966 available from $16
Thu, Oct 10 vsRutgers 7:30 PM ET 1,046 available from $15
Fri, Oct 18 vsUCF 8:00 PM ET 838 available from $13
Sat, Oct 26 @South Florida TBD 810 available from $14
Fri, Nov 8 @Connecticut 8:30 PM ET 2,010 available from $13
Sat, Nov 16 vsHouston TBD 701 available from $13
Sat, Nov 23 vsMemphis TBD 747 available from $16
Thu, Dec 5 @Cincinnati
 
#36
#36
Let me add one thing.

The Sugar Bowl last year. Florida lost because Muschump had is team unprepared and unready to play. Florida came out flat, uninspired, and got whipped. Muschump deserves as much credit for Louisville's win as Strong does.
 
#37
#37
I did more research and Strong has two more wins that would be considered decent.

He beat North Carolina 39-34 in 2012.
He beat West Virginina 38-35 in 2011.

Two great defensive efforts!!!!!
 
#38
#38
This might interest you

2010 Cincinnati 35 Louisville 27
2011 Cincinnati 25 Louisville 16
2012 Louisville 34, Cincinnati 31 (OT)

Seems like Butch is 2-1 against Strong. And you could argue 2-0-1. Because OT is almost a coin toss.
 
#39
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BearBryant said:
In case you haven't check this is who Charlie Stong has to prepare his defense for this year. Scary!!!!

Sept 1 vsOhio W49-7 1-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 7 vsE Kentucky W44-7 2-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 14 @Kentucky W27-13 3-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 21 vsFlorida Int 12:00 PM ET 616 available from $10
Sat, Oct 5 @Temple TBD 966 available from $16
Thu, Oct 10 vsRutgers 7:30 PM ET 1,046 available from $15
Fri, Oct 18 vsUCF 8:00 PM ET 838 available from $13
Sat, Oct 26 @South Florida TBD 810 available from $14
Fri, Nov 8 @Connecticut 8:30 PM ET 2,010 available from $13
Sat, Nov 16 vsHouston TBD 701 available from $13
Sat, Nov 23 vsMemphis TBD 747 available from $16
Thu, Dec 5 @Cincinnati
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Wow! That schedule looks pitiful. Seems to me that you are right. Strong is still a little unproven as far as being a great defensive mind.
 
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BearBryant said:
In case you haven't check this is who Charlie Stong has to prepare his defense for this year. Scary!!!!

Sept 1 vsOhio W49-7 1-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 7 vsE Kentucky W44-7 2-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 14 @Kentucky W27-13 3-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 21 vsFlorida Int 12:00 PM ET 616 available from $10
Sat, Oct 5 @Temple TBD 966 available from $16
Thu, Oct 10 vsRutgers 7:30 PM ET 1,046 available from $15
Fri, Oct 18 vsUCF 8:00 PM ET 838 available from $13
Sat, Oct 26 @South Florida TBD 810 available from $14
Fri, Nov 8 @Connecticut 8:30 PM ET 2,010 available from $13
Sat, Nov 16 vsHouston TBD 701 available from $13
Sat, Nov 23 vsMemphis TBD 747 available from $16
Thu, Dec 5 @Cincinnati
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You do realize Strong won two NC at Flordia as a defensive Coord? I'm not trying to sound like Strong is the best coach ever, but I swear some of you guys are either blind or racist. He's proven to be able to win big games with less talent, and they are moving to the ACC so you can't really say they aren't trying to get better competition. If you want to start bring up conference play then Butch coached in the same conference the last three years, and the only SEC team he's ever beat is Vandy. I'm not saying Butch sucks or I'm not happy with him here as I very much am, but some of you guys act like some facts don't count. Strong and Butch both coached in the same league last year against the same competition, so since Strong isnt worthy of being called a good coach because of his schedule neither is Butch Jones in your opinion.
 
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keckjm said:
You do realize Strong won two NC at Flordia as a defensive Coord? I'm not trying to sound like Strong is the best coach ever, but I swear some of you guys are either blind or racist. He's proven to be able to win big games with less talent, and they are moving to the ACC so you can't really say they aren't trying to get better competition. If you want to start bring up conference play then Butch coached in the same conference the last three years, and the only SEC team he's ever beat is Vandy. I'm not saying Butch sucks or I'm not happy with him here as I very much am, but some of you guys act like some facts don't count. Strong and Butch both coached in the same league last year against the same competition, so since Strong isnt worthy of being called a good coach because of his schedule neither is Butch Jones in your opinion.
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You do know that Butch is 2-1 against Strong? Who other than Florida has Strong beat that has more talent?

They did have good defenses at Florida when he was DC. The reason they won 2 NC's is TEBOW!!!

TEBOW was the reason Florida beat Tennessee 21-20 when he was a Freshman. I was at the game.
 
#42
#42
Anointing Strong as this great coach when he plays 10-12 games a year against teams that would finish LAST in the SEC is well I don't know how to explain it!! You tell me.

He beat a fat, sloppy, completly unprepared Florida team in the Sugar Bowl and now he is the next Gen. Neyland!!!
 
#43
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volsportsfan said:
So, I thought i would start a thread on good ole volnation. Here's my thinking. If CBJ does not succeed (I'm not saying he will or he won't), can i start a movement amongst my vol brethren to make our next head coach be the best defensive mind we can possibly hire? I don't care if he is in the NFL or in college. I want a top notch defense back on the hill! If the Jets were to fire Rex Ryan, I would throw the UT bank account at him! I want a Pete Carroll or Nick Saban type coach that will bring us a defense that will keep us in games! You guys remember when Coach Chavis put defenses on the field that kept us in games and gave us a chance to win? Our O was pitiful sometimes but we were in a lot of games come the 4th quarter! Heck, before my time, Gen. Neyland was a defensive genius! Defense built this great football program, and I for one want it BACK!
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How on earth could we forget good ole 3rd and Chavis :ermm:
 
#44
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keckjm said:
People are just tired of excuses. CBJ is a no BS guy. I love the fact that I haven't heard him say, It's a process and it takes time." over and over again like Dooley did. He's always saying we have no depth but losing is unacceptable. The time is now. CBJ knows this, and he's pretty much came out and said look our players don't know how to win. Everyone talks about speed, power, etc, but our biggest issue is our players mentality aren't winners and CBJ knows it. Winning is a state of mind, and until our players perceive themselves as winners and go out every time the pads are on and give 110% we won't every win big games.
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Impossible.
 
#45
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BearBryant said:
You do know that Butch is 2-1 against Strong? Who other than Florida has Strong beat that has more talent?

They did have good defenses at Florida when he was DC. The reason they won 2 NC's is TEBOW!!!

TEBOW was the reason Florida beat Tennessee 21-20 when he was a Freshman. I was at the game.
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Your argument as to why Strong sucks is because he lost to Butch Jones twice? I'm done arguing with you as the argument is point less as I wasn't the one trying to compare Jones and Strong.
 
#46
#46
keckjm said:
You do realize Strong won two NC at Flordia as a defensive Coord? I'm not trying to sound like Strong is the best coach ever, but I swear some of you guys are either blind or racist. He's proven to be able to win big games with less talent, and they are moving to the ACC so you can't really say they aren't trying to get better competition. If you want to start bring up conference play then Butch coached in the same conference the last three years, and the only SEC team he's ever beat is Vandy. I'm not saying Butch sucks or I'm not happy with him here as I very much am, but some of you guys act like some facts don't count. Strong and Butch both coached in the same league last year against the same competition, so since Strong isnt worthy of being called a good coach because of his schedule neither is Butch Jones in your opinion.
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Stopped reading when I came across the race card. It rendered your entire post null and void.
 
#47
#47
BearBryant said:
You do know that Butch is 2-1 against Strong? Who other than Florida has Strong beat that has more talent?

They did have good defenses at Florida when he was DC. The reason they won 2 NC's is TEBOW!!!

TEBOW was the reason Florida beat Tennessee 21-20 when he was a Freshman. I was at the game.
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ChattanoogaVols said:
Stopped reading when I came across the race card. It rendered your entire post null and void.
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Ok I'll remember that from now on. Thanks for your input and contributions to my post.
 
#48
#48
Do you not understand that we don't have enough SEC quality players right now? We are down by so many SEC caliber players. It doesn't matter who you have as coach. We have got to build depth, confidence, and speed. Until we get those 3 things going at UT, we are going to have growing pains for the next few years. I believe CBJ understands this, and will get it done for the BIG ORANGE.
 
#50
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BearBryant said:
In case you haven't check this is who Charlie Stong has to prepare his defense for this year. Scary!!!!

Sept 1 vsOhio W49-7 1-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 7 vsE Kentucky W44-7 2-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 14 @Kentucky W27-13 3-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 21 vsFlorida Int 12:00 PM ET 616 available from $10
Sat, Oct 5 @Temple TBD 966 available from $16
Thu, Oct 10 vsRutgers 7:30 PM ET 1,046 available from $15
Fri, Oct 18 vsUCF 8:00 PM ET 838 available from $13
Sat, Oct 26 @South Florida TBD 810 available from $14
Fri, Nov 8 @Connecticut 8:30 PM ET 2,010 available from $13
Sat, Nov 16 vsHouston TBD 701 available from $13
Sat, Nov 23 vsMemphis TBD 747 available from $16
Thu, Dec 5 @Cincinnati
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Louisville is a joke . They beat a Florida team that had no offense and played its worst game of the year and now espn is hyping them as a title contender. Their qb is good but not great. Their defense is good but not great. Their coach is good but not great. I'd rather have Jones over strong any day of the week. On a side not lousvilles schedule makes laugh.
 
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