I'm sorry to all the Dems out there...

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volfanbill

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Let me start by saying I have always considered myself a Republican and conservative. Although over the past few years taking into account all my Bible studies in undergrad in connection with my huge interest in American History and govt, I have shifted towards libertarianism. I still support the Republican side way more often than not, but I could see myself voting for a democrat president if need be one day. I've already voted for a democratic governor twice now. That being said, there is no way I could vote for Obama or Hillary this year.

I have never truly watched Fox News Channel because of all the bias I have always been told about. With my broadcast journalism background, that kind of thing gets on my nerves, so I never even gave them the time of day.

However I was at a restaurant tonight and quite bored with the party I was with and I found myself reading along to the closed captioning of Fox News talking of Obama's resignation from his church. I don't know what the first show was or who the lady was as anchor/host, but I know the second show was Sean Hannity's show. Watching and reading both shows and how they attacked Obama mercilessly spewing more opinions and theories than actual fact, I felt guilty as a Republican that they are supposedly on my side. I am convinced I will never watch Fox News again.

How someone like Sean Hannity can have a job on television making way more money than he should, and I'm struggling to find the post master's degree job of my dreams is beyond me.
 
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O'Reilly is on before Hannity and Colmes, they are both opinion based shows and while FNC as a whole tilts right, you really shouldn't form your opinion of it just from Hannity. I've gotten tired of Hannity's constant harping on Obama's associations and wish he'd devote his time and considerable energy on things that matter. However, I'm not about to apologize to any dems out there. Not when Keith Olbermann, Jon Stewart, and Chris Matthews are getting paid just as much as Hannity to shill.

If you want to watch a pretty good hour of news coverage, tune in at 6pm and watch Special Report With Brit Hume. The same goes for Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace.
 
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MG1968 said:
O'Reilly is on before Hannity and Colmes, they are both opinion based shows and while FNC as a whole tilts right, you really shouldn't form your opinion of it just from Hannity. I've gotten tired of Hannity's constant harping on Obama's associations and wish he'd devote his time and considerable energy on things that matter. However, I'm not about to apologize to any dems out there. Not when Keith Olbermann, Jon Stewart, and Chris Matthews are getting paid just as much as Hannity to shill.

If you want to watch a pretty good hour of news coverage, tune in at 6pm and watch Special Report With Brit Hume. The same goes for Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace.
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I'm smart enough to know Jon Stewart gets paid to get a laugh. What's scary is all the people that don't get that. Of course, Stewart and Comedy Central bank on that very part of it.

Maybe it was because I was reading it and not listening, but Chris Matthews seemed completely tame compared to Hannity.
 
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I think Chris Wallace does as good a job as anyone on the Sunday morning shows as far as being fair. In fact, he actually took some FNC guys to task on the air a few weeks ago for banging on Obama a little too much.
 
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check out youtube for some of Chris Matthew's comments regarding thrills running up his leg whenever he hears Obama speaking.
 
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volfanbill said:
Maybe it was because I was reading it and not listening, but Chris Matthews seemed completely tame compared to Hannity.
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Hannity is definitely a shill for the right but he's never claimed to be anything but that . . . much the same way that Matthews clearly leans left. Although, I have to admit that even as a Republican I'd rather watch Matthews merely for the fact that he's been on the inside before with Carter and Tip O'Neil.
 
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Hannity is a good guy... he has a job to do on the tv and he does it, he's no worse than anyone else out there, including Olberman, Mathhews et al. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think Sean must be doing something right. He's less "shrill" as some of you put it on his radio show, but he pounds the same issues because quite franky most of the media doesn't.

As far has Stewart, he spends 30 mins a day bashing everyone but his party, but if someone calls him on it, it's just comedy. Quite frankly, he's up there with Bill Maher IMO.
 
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volsforever27 said:
As far has Stweart, he spends 30 mins a day bashing everyone but his party
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For the most part that's true, but I happened to catch a bit he did the other night where he declared a "Douche-off" between Terry McAuliffe and Chris Matthews and then showed a clip of them going at each other. It was funny stuff.
 
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GAVol said:
For the most part that's true, but I happened to catch a bit he did the other night where he declared a "Douche-off" between Terry McAuliffe and Chris Matthews and then showed a clip of them going at each other. It was funny stuff.
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I missed that, but you have to admit 90% of the time that's what it is. Usually the only time he'll bash a Dem is for not being liberal enough.
 
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Fox news is as biased as it gets name another network that has ever used a 1st cousin of a presendential candidate as their lead man as fox did with his 1st cousin on election 2000.
 
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Fox News definitely leans right, just not as far right as some would have you believe. It's just that people aren't used to seeing any form of journalism that doesn't lean left.
 
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. . . but I do get a good laugh every time somebody on the left tries to trump up a conspiracy concerning John Ellis costing Al Gore the 2000 election.
 
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GAVol said:
. . . but I do get a good laugh every time somebody on the left tries to trump up a conspiracy concerning John Ellis costing Al Gore the 2000 election.
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CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. were stupid for listening to him. They should have all known better than to call that state.
 
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Bill, DAVOL et. al

I haven't yet see you blast the likes of Cronkite, Rather, Brokaw, Jennings, Couric, Anderson Cooper..........the list actually gets too long to deal with.

Maybe I should assume you also boycott all newspapers and every other news broadcast because of the hard left slant or maybe I just missed it amid your comments.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Bill, DAVOL et. al

I haven't yet see you blast the likes of Cronkite, Rather, Brokaw, Jennings, Couric, Anderson Cooper..........the list actually gets too long to deal with.

Maybe I should assume you also boycott all newspapers and every other news broadcast because of the hard left slant or maybe I just missed it amid your comments.
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couric and cooper shouldn't be in that list, but that's a different topic. Cronkite, Brokaw, Jennings and Rather had some left slant, I'll agree, but no to the extent that you are putting them under. What I watched last night was purely laughable it was so slanted towards the right.
 
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What funny about this whole thread is the fact that if I am not mistaken Fox News as a whole has better ratings than all the other major networks. Even though they may tilt right, the fact the Hannity and Colmes can coexist on the same set tells me that Fox News is far above the others.
 
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GAVol said:
The thing is though, there's no secret that Hannity leans right and is a commentator.
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I agree, but I have found that he is very straight forward and in most of the cases I have watched the leftist they have on during a segment tends to avoid Hannity at all costs. Of course, a lot of the leftist they have on there can't hold a conversation with Colmes either and he's a liberal.
 
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volfanbill said:
couric and cooper shouldn't be in that list, but that's a different topic. Cronkite, Brokaw, Jennings and Rather had some left slant, I'll agree, but no to the extent that you are putting them under. What I watched last night was purely laughable it was so slanted towards the right.
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cooper is obscenely left and couric is worse. rather still tops the chart, but cronkite and co still are hard left types. I can't imagine them doing an opinion show like Hannity is paid to do. Those guys tried retain some respectability of providing news, but were always of the hard left slant. Hannity makes no bones about his commentary and should framkly be lumped in with the likes of Maher, Olberman, Matthews and the like.

Now remind me which network has an actual news anchor that isn't a socialist.

Finally, why in the hell are you apologizing to the left. They've had an unopposed run for the entirety of broadcast media and none of them have to watch Fox. Hell, I'm a conservative and don't watch Fox.
 
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I used to wonder where all the vitriol about Fox was coming from. I finally decided there are those who simply can't stand, and I mean DESPISE the idea that people can say what is often heard on that channel and have it be successful.
 
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i guess my problem is as mentioned I've never watched Fox because of how right slanted they've been accused of being. Because of that, I've never seen Hannity and knew very little about him. I have problems with Matthews and Olbermann, but I've never seen them behave the way Hannity was last night. It was obnoxious. What I watched makes MSNBC and CNN fine to watch.

As for Cooper I have no problems with his left slant either, I just think he is a total tool.
 
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Not trying to be argumentative, but this is a little hard to figure. You are a Republican and you watch CNN and MSNBC but you've never watched FNC because they are accused of being slanted to the right by media that you know to be slanted to the left?
 
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